GregsBad Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 My guess would be it could go either way depending on the person. AP I agree with AP - could go up ... cause now he's a horn dog again could go down ... cause now he has this sense of loyalty to the OW
GregsBad Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 That's kind of insulting to the wives...how is an OW "fine cuisine"? Especially OWs that sleep with many MMs... I'm sorry 4WIW - I really need to work on my analogies. OK so then - for the OW's that sleep around with MMs ... - ABC gum on a hot side walk - (Already Been Chewed). No offense Lizze ... I'm sure you're just as sexy as can be
Meaplus3 Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 I agree with AP - could go up ... cause now he's a horn dog again could go down ... cause now he has this sense of loyalty to the OW Could go up, hehehe! How handy! I think your the naughty one Greg, LOL! AP
GregsBad Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 Could go up, hehehe! How handy! I think your the naughty one Greg, LOL! AP Yeah ... I need to be spanked
stillhere Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 My question was : does the libido improves with the wife though. Does the guy maturbates more after he strays? I heard that a few times from MM. and I also read it somewhere that it is a sign that MM is cheating when he suddenly has more appetite at home. I was wondering what other OM or MM were thinking about this. In the case of my MM and his W, he has lost complete interest at home. He used to be the one who initiated it (he told me), now he doesn't at all. She's noticed. The other day, she asked him "have you forgotten how to use that or has it quit working all together?" He never answered her and walked out of the room. He plans on being out by October. We'll see if that really happens, i'm not holding my breath, but i know he's miserable. Our A started out as a PA only, grew into an EA, and now he's madly in love with me. That all started almost 2 years ago. Oh, and he doesn't masturbate, ever! He has never once lied to me (that i know of). He's way too busy to even think about it. That's my job!
GregsBad Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 Oh, and he doesn't masturbate, ever! He has never once lied to me (that i know of). He's way too busy to even think about it. That's my job! So what can we say to a man who says he doesn't masturbate?
Meaplus3 Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 He's either a eunuch - or he's full of sh*t! Full of sh*t! IMO. My H and I have always had a pretty average sex life and yet I know H "Greases's the Monkey so to speak", heck I do it too! Yes I 'm a woman who know's how to take care of herself. MM claim's he does not masterbate (told me this many many month's ago), he doesn't have to. OH please!! That's a BIG Load of BS! If I was his visual aid for so long than I'm sure he hand fun with" Mr. Righty and lefty" and a bottle of lotion. LOL! Don't mean to be rude. AP
vanilla chai Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 You really don't believe his line of BS, do you? Sorry SIL. I don't mean to discount your feelings, but please, open your eyes. There really must be some kind of manual that these guys read.
stillhere Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 So what can we say to a man who says he doesn't masturbate? He's either a eunuch - or he's full of sh*t! :lmao:You guys crack me up!! Believe it or not, but i do believe him!! This is coming from a man who has never had a complete bj in his life, he's been pretty sheltered!! We're above and beyond open with each other, and i do it in front of him, and never once have i seen him do it, EVER! There are a select few out there, who are rare, but they do exist!! I would agree with you though, that the majority do masturbate.
Kenzo Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 I haven't met many guys who don't admit to it (masturbate that is)...MM does it in front of me, and he does it in anticipation of us seeing each other, especially after absences of a few days. The physical relationship is dead in his home. But after years of not getting any at home he was resigned to the fact that that was it for him. Don't know if it increased, or if it was there all along with no where to go!
Jinxx Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 The libido improves the same way as an apetite improves. When a man eats spam every day for years, Then gets to dine on fine cuisine ... he gets a better appetite! I love the way you presented this. So very true.
frannie Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 I have a question for you married guys who have a mistress. Is it true that, let's say you don't have a very active sex life with your wife, you get a OW then your libido is improved...and you either have more sex with your wife...or you masturbate more often, thinking about 'her'? A few of my lovers have told me this... so I wonder how others feel. Thanks. (ps I'll be back in a short while ha-hem... to check the thread) What about if you have a non-existant sex life with your wife, and your entire 'sex' life consists of masturbation and fantasy..? And then you find someone who has the same fantasies and appetites as yourself.? Would you say it's likely that you would rush back to a wife who wasn't interested in even straight sex with you, in order to get (previously non-existant) fulfilment in the way you realise you needed all along..? Now that you have a new partner who is compatable sexually, available and willing, and with whom you find each day and encounter you find yourself opening out and being who you always felt you wanted to be sexually... Under those circumstances would you find your sex life with your spouse even vaguely interesting..? When you'd spent five years asking for something straight and even minorly fulfilling, would you want to go begging on bended knee again for something a tenth of what you can have with your lover..? Doubtful.
Herzen Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 MM are not going to post on this thread because there are very few MM on LS. OM maybe, but not MM. What's the difference between an OM and a MM? If a man is married and carries on a love affair with a MW, is the wayward man an OM or a MM? Inquiring minds want to know.
Author Lizzie60 Posted May 31, 2007 Author Posted May 31, 2007 What's the difference between an OM and a MM? If a man is married and carries on a love affair with a MW, is the wayward man an OM or a MM? Inquiring minds want to know. The OM is not necessarily married.
frannie Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 What's the difference between an OM and a MM? If a man is married and carries on a love affair with a MW, is the wayward man an OM or a MM? Inquiring minds want to know. A MM can be an OM. An OW can be a MW. Usually the shortcut is all in the context of the forum, or who is doing the talking. An OM can very easily be a MM... but if you're an OW, you usually say 'MM', rather than 'OM'... even if you're married yourself. If you're someone (married or unmarried) involved with a MW, you would say you were an OM or an OW. The marital status of the person involved with the married person is never explicitly stated, because it's not usually considered... if you're involved with a married person they're an MW or a MM... if you're involved with them, you're an OM or an OW. OF course from their point of view you may also be a MM or a MW. Sometimes the forums exist based on the idea of the MM (less often MW) and the single, flailing, clueless, childless OW or OM... waiting... waiting... ... when of course reality is far from that.
Herzen Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 The OM is not necessarily married. So if a married man has an affair with a married woman, he's the MM? But I've always understood the MM to be a married guy who strings along a single woman. I prefer the OM designation for the "both married" affair.
Herzen Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 A MM can be an OM. An OW can be a MW. Usually the shortcut is all in the context of the forum, or who is doing the talking. An OM can very easily be a MM... but if you're an OW, you usually say 'MM', rather than 'OM'... even if you're married yourself. If you're someone (married or unmarried) involved with a MW, you would say you were an OM or an OW. The marital status of the person involved with the married person is never explicitly stated, because it's not usually considered... if you're involved with a married person they're an MW or a MM... if you're involved with them, you're an OM or an OW. OF course from their point of view you may also be a MM or a MW. Sometimes the forums exist based on the idea of the MM (less often MW) and the single, flailing, clueless, childless OW or OM... waiting... waiting... ... when of course reality is far from that. Thanks, frannie. Well stated. I also add that I've not been a MM or OM for years. Still, I was curious about the meanings.
frannie Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 So if a married man has an affair with a married woman, he's the MM? But I've always understood the MM to be a married guy who strings along a single woman. I prefer the OM designation for the "both married" affair. Well the MM 'stringing along' a single OW is the usual 'agony aunt' crepola we're fed. Of course many women involved with Married Men are themselves Married... why not..? In reality no one is an 'OW' or 'MM' or anything else.. we're just all people in complicated situations... each of them individual. But that just messes up the statistics and the ability for people to quote truisms...
hardcase Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 I love the way you presented this. So very true. So you saw yourself as fine cuisine as compared to the MM's wife when you were the OW?
Author Lizzie60 Posted June 1, 2007 Author Posted June 1, 2007 So you saw yourself as fine cuisine as compared to the MM's wife when you were the OW? Come on...if sex would sucks with the OW why would he put up with it... unless, of course, he's head over heels for her... which is, IMO, not the 'norm'... These guys crave the 'kinky' sex, the lingerie, the oral, the excitement they don't get at home. Most guys will say that they want to try stuff...but it is absolutely impossible to even think about it at home... Some guys NEVER or very rarely get oral... I can go on and on... So yes... the OW is fine cuisine for MOST.
hardcase Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 Come on...if sex would sucks with the OW why would he put up with it... unless, of course, he's head over heels for her... which is, IMO, not the 'norm'... Well you missed the point...she was replying to a post saying it was "true" that when a man has had the same woman for so many years...an OW will be like a "fine cuisine" to him. So it doesn't matter if the sex actually sucks. Its something new and different. Even a dish as repulsive as Haggis might be considered a fine cuisine if you only got to eat even your most favorite of dishes every day of your life and nothing else. These guys crave the 'kinky' sex, the lingerie, the oral, the excitement they don't get at home. And of course you are there to give it to them, right? You have admitted this much already. Most guys will say that they want to try stuff...but it is absolutely impossible to even think about it at home... Some guys NEVER or very rarely get oral... I can go on and on... I'm one of them...but you don't see me going out and lowering myself to a cheaters level. So yes... the OW is fine cuisine for MOST. And of course you say this because you are an OW. You like being an other woman, and you love being with married men. You have happily announced this to the forum from day one.
Author Lizzie60 Posted June 1, 2007 Author Posted June 1, 2007 Well you missed the point...she was replying to a post saying it was "true" that when a man has had the same woman for so many years...an OW will be like a "fine cuisine" to him. I didn't miss the point... I was answering your question to her. I know what she said, I agreed with her.
hardcase Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 Well you missed the point...she was replying to a post saying it was "true" that when a man has had the same woman for so many years...an OW will be like a "fine cuisine" to him. I didn't miss the point... I was answering your question to her. I know what she said, I agreed with her. Oh I know you agree with her...you make no bones in this forum about enjoying being with other womens' husbands. Do you not have a shred of decency where your other members of the female species are concerned?
OpenBook Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 I'm one of them...but you don't see me going out and lowering myself to a cheaters level. Hey hardcase, tell your W there are videotapes out there that can show her the fine art of giving bj's. At the very least, it will help you relax. I feel bad for ya, man.
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