Author IpAncA Posted May 23, 2007 Author Posted May 23, 2007 So then would you want your child to have your name or your husband's name? If yours (because you want to keep it going), then your child would be honoring its maternal name rather than in your case honoring your paternal name. If your husband's, then your paternal name would cease anyway. No it's only a though. I'm just venting a little. My backgound is ever important to me and I'd hate to see it die because of some tradition. I already know that would never happen which is why I've never said it out loud. I have a brother so if he ever has children the name is past on.
polywog Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Just so you all know, Picasso took on his mother's last name, in a Spanish tradition. The guy was a genius but a prick, so I don't know what that's worth. But I have never understood, even when I was a kid, why we women had to change our names. It always struck me, as it does today, as being a peice of property. When I was little I found a book that had belonged to my mother before she got married with her maiden name on the bookplate. I asked her why she didn't keep her name. She was actually at a loss to explain it to me in a way that made sense to my bold, innocent question. I never forget that. Anyhow, ladies, at least all the Mitochondria are ours, the Powerhouse of the cell. In sperm, the mitochondria become the tail that propels the little tadpoles to the big egg, and the egg passes on the mitochiondria to the embryo, which eventually becomes us. At least we have that, and perhaps the last name thing is a pathetic way to compensate for that.
tanbark813 Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Anyhow, ladies, at least all the Mitochondria are ours, the Powerhouse of the cell. In sperm, the mitochondria become the tail that propels the little tadpoles to the big egg, and the egg passes on the mitochiondria to the embryo, which eventually becomes us. At least we have that, and perhaps the last name thing is a pathetic way to compensate for that. In the womb, all fetuses start out female and the lucky few are upgraded to male once the Y chromosome kicks in.
Enema Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 In the womb, all fetuses start out female and the lucky few are upgraded to male once the Y chromosome kicks in. They've discovered that the Y chromosome is a mutation of the X. "They" also say that evolution happens through random, beneficial mutations. Perhaps men are just more advanced models?
polywog Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 In the womb, all fetuses start out female and the lucky few are upgraded to male once the Y chromosome kicks in. with the permission of the mitochondria queen (where's Woggle, I'm sure he'd have something to say about this )
polywog Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 They've discovered that the Y chromosome is a mutation of the X. "They" also say that evolution happens through random, beneficial mutations. Perhaps men are just more advanced models? Whatever, I'd just be bummed if there were no Y chromosomed beings for me to throw myself at!
green-eyed beauty Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Read his answer to me again then. Obviously you missed the not-so-subtle put-down. As for the bolded part..nope. You got it wrong again. Go back and read some of my other posts and maybe you'll get it this time. That's NOT what I was saying at all. You told him good luck with his marriage. I did read it closely. You're the one with the attitude, not him. I got it right, hon.
Touche Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 You told him good luck with his marriage. I did read it closely. You're the one with the attitude, not him. I got it right, hon. :lmao: Yep, I did. And I meant it. You didn't get it right, brid..err, ted, jane..miel..I mean green-eyed mon..err beauty! Anywho, back on topic! Uhm..yeah you should all do whatever makes you and your future spouse happy.
Lizzie60 Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 I'm glad it works for you... I'm sure there are millions of people out there who never think for themselves and just follow what they were brought up to believe, or do what their man tells them to. I'm happy that they are happy. But, for me... no thanks. I also think it's great that you disparage the longevity of my relationship simply because it's different than yours... I'm sure there are millions of people out there who never think for themselves and just follow what they were brought up to believe, or do what their man tells them to. This is soooo true! They don't even stop to really think about it... they are just followers.
alphamale Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 look....when the dust settles if a woman isn't willing to change her name for her husband to be then she's marrying the wrong dude.
Touche Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 I'm sure there are millions of people out there who never think for themselves and just follow what they were brought up to believe, or do what their man tells them to. This is soooo true! They don't even stop to really think about it... they are just followers. Just because some of us aren't trying to "be different" in some fake, contrived "modern" way, doesn't make us followers. And just because some of us believe in certain traditions, it doesn't make us sheep either. Again, it was my CHOICE. I'm no follower. Anyone who knows me would know that.
green-eyed beauty Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 :lmao: Yep, I did. And I meant it. You didn't get it right, brid..err, ted, jane..miel..I mean green-eyed mon..err beauty! Anywho, back on topic! Uhm..yeah you should all do whatever makes you and your future spouse happy. You wished him luck because you thought he'd have problems with his attitude, and before that he wasn't pointing you out specifically, he was just giving his own opinion.
allina Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 I'm making up all sorts of singsongy rhyming names for you in my head now. It's not too bad but I don't like it when names rhyme My backgound is ever important to me and I'd hate to see it die because of some tradition. I have a brother so if he ever has children the name is past on. Your background and who you are don't die because you take on a different last name. Also, what if your brother marries a woman who fels the same as you, will you respect her decision?
Touche Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 You wished him luck because you thought he'd have problems with his attitude, and before that he wasn't pointing you out specifically, he was just giving his own opinion. You were being rude. You're hilarious. You just don't get it and I'm not going to explain it again. And I'm not the person being rude here. Buh, Bye! Think you can stay on topic? So back on topic....
Woggle Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Just because some of us aren't trying to "be different" in some fake, contrived "modern" way, doesn't make us followers. And just because some of us believe in certain traditions, it doesn't make us sheep either. Again, it was my CHOICE. I'm no follower. Anyone who knows me would know that. I agree. People today just like to rebel for the sake of rebelling. Radicals used to actually stand for something and actually fight for social justice but some people today like to tear down every tradition just to be edgy.
Touche Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 I agree. People today just like to rebel for the sake of rebelling. Radicals used to actually stand for something and actually fight for social justice but some people today like to tear down every tradition just to be edgy. EXACTLY, Wog. But you know what's so hysterical about people like this? Ironically there's nothing unique about them. They're all predictably the same. It reminds me of my ex step-daughter who as a teen used to dress goth and listen to "alternative" music, etc. Funny thing is is that she looked like a million other kids who were also trying to be "different." It was hysterical. They were laughable in their attempts to be "different." That's what all this remdinds me of. And what's even funnier is that once these people "grow up" they realize how ridiculous they were being...it becomes a case of "WHAT was I THINKING?"
Author IpAncA Posted May 23, 2007 Author Posted May 23, 2007 Your background and who you are don't die because you take on a different last name. No but the name does.
Woggle Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 EXACTLY, Wog. But you know what's so hysterical about people like this? Ironically there's nothing unique about them. They're all predictably the same. It reminds me of my ex step-daughter who as a teen used to dress goth and listen to "alternative" music, etc. Funny thing is is that she looked like a million other kids who were also trying to be "different." It was hysterical. They were laughable in their attempts to be "different." That's what all this remdinds me of. And what's even funnier is that once these people "grow up" they realize how ridiculous they were being...it becomes a case of "WHAT was I THINKING?" Lizzie is in her 50s though so I don't think she will ever get it. If you ask me being commited to making a marriage work and being to your family is a more radical act these days than anything. People like you and I are the rebels.
green-eyed beauty Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Eh, if a woman wants to keep her own name, big deal. It's her name. Like I said, she's the one who has to live with it. Touche, why are you getting so offended? No one has really said anything, including Enema, which should be getting you so worked up. He never insulted you, he was making a general statement, and he was referring to his own choice.
Touche Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Lizzie is in her 50s though so I don't think she will ever get it. If you ask me being commited to making a marriage work and being to your family is a more radical act these days than anything. People like you and I are the rebels. You know what? That's pretty brilliant! I've never thought of it that way, but I think that's true. It's so true. Making a marriage work and doing what it takes is not for the faint of heart. Putting in that effort and not taking the easy way out is what is radical these days.
Lizzie60 Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Lizzie is in her 50s though so I don't think she will ever get it. If you ask me being commited to making a marriage work and being to your family is a more radical act these days than anything. People like you and I are the rebels. Lizzie is in her 50s though so I don't think she will ever get it. I think that when you'll get there...you'll get it.
allina Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 No but the name does. I guess i just don't look at it that way. Your maiden name will always be yours in my opinion.
Touche Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Lizzie is in her 50s though so I don't think she will ever get it. If you ask me being commited to making a marriage work and being to your family is a more radical act these days than anything. People like you and I are the rebels. Oh, and I don't think Lizzie WANTS to grow up! (Am I right Lizzie?) Ok, back on topic. Yeah, the woman should keep her own name. In fact I think she should also keep her own place just in case things don't work out. And she should stash some money away in a bank in Switzerland...just in case you know. She shouldn't let her man have a voice in anything. I mean who is HE to suggest that they share a name? It's really nervy. It's HER name isn't it? What IS it with men anyway? Why do they have to run everything? :lmao::laugh:
Touche Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Lizzie is in her 50s though so I don't think she will ever get it. I think that when you'll get there...you'll get it. Well, I'm almost there () and I don't get it. (What is it I'm supposed to get again?)
Woggle Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Lizzie has the right to live her life the way she wants but I don't like how she thinks women who don't live like her are repressed and selling out to men. Feminists talk about choice but are quick to look down on women who don't how they think a woman should live.
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