joel Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 ok who here has ever heard of a male gold digger? lol i know hey. i was chatting with a online aquintance (girl i chatting with off a online dating place) and she told me how shes been used, and have had dated/bf who was a gold digger. what what a male gold digger. does it even exists. you always hear about girls wanting guys with the car, the good job, cool clothes and what not, buit have you ever hear about a guy rejecting or even putting a lot of emphasize on their date or gf having a nice ride or even a ride, a great job and what not. guys usually go for whoever has a hot bod, cute face and is willing to put out. she told me she bought her bf a car before, diamond ring, and dinners. really a male gold digger. is this even believeable. damn why ssave up for a car, just a girl who can get you the car. lol j/k is it even for real. how can a guy even be a gold digger. i guess the guy gotta be very good looking, charming, good dresser and complintary to the girl. i mean you think if a guy is being a gold digger , you think the girl would dump him. cute /hot girls get hit on all the time. they are the ones to choose. why would they pick a gold digger guy when another guy has a good job, and is willing to pay for her and isn;t even a gold digger. i'm not a gold digger and i have trouble getting girls. wow how do these gold digger guys do it. do you now any, met any, and how do they do what they do
Trialbyfire Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Yes, there are male gold diggers that target wealthy women. Look at Liz Taylor and her last few "conquests".
Teddy and Jane Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Of course. There are tons of women who post on here whose boyfriends ask them for money.
norajane Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Of course. There are tons of women who post on here whose boyfriends ask them for money. Or move her in, charge her rent, and use that rent to pay his mortgage. And then when she starts asking about marriage, he's not 'ready'.
Author joel Posted May 14, 2007 Author Posted May 14, 2007 Or move her in, charge her rent, and use that rent to pay his mortgage. And then when she starts asking about marriage, he's not 'ready'. ah and u think the girl would dump the guy. lol these guys got total game or something . how do they do what they do.
Teddy and Jane Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 ah and u think the girl would dump the guy. lol these guys got total game or something . how do they do what they do. Why do you think this is funny? Yes, most of these women do end up leaving when they realize they're being duped and they're not going to get the marriage and family they want and deserve from a guy making false promises.
Island Girl Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 you think the girl would dump him. cute /hot girls get hit on all the time. they are the ones to choose. why would they pick a gold digger guy when another guy has a good job, and is willing to pay for her and isn;t even a gold digger. i'm not a gold digger and i have trouble getting girls. wow how do these gold digger guys do it. do you now any, met any, and how do they do what they do Yep, have met a few. Watched them in action - they're total "game" is being sensitive to the girls weaknesses. It is like they have radar for something. They pick really insecure girls, get them hooked by stroking their insecurities and then flip it when they start calling the shots. The girls can't get enough of them and do what ever they say. Pimps play the same game - and get the girls to sell themselves and turn over all of the money they earn. Low self esteem is a person's worst enemy --- male or female.
DanielMadr Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Or move her in, charge her rent, and use that rent to pay his mortgage. And then when she starts asking about marriage, he's not 'ready'. Perfect idea! thanx
cutegirl Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 My bf isn't a gold digger but I do help him out financially a lot, I didn't buy his car for him fully but paid for half (it was a very cheap car), plus sometimes I help pay his credit card bills, phone bills, buy him lots of stuff etc Plus I pay all the rent/bills, actually I don't care about him not paying the rent at all because I would have to pay the same amount regardless of whether he lives with me or not, so it doesn't matter to me. I actually prefer dating guys who don't have a lot of money. I think guys with money are more likely to cheat because they have more means and more opportunity to cheat. This has been PROVEN in studies From MSNBC "Among men making more than $300,000 a year, 32 percent report cheating, compared to 21 percent of men making less than $35,000 a year. Wealth isn't much of a factor in women's cheating. “Wealthy men may simply have more dating opportunities than men with less income,” says David Frederick, a psychologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, who helped analyze the survey findings. " source : http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/17951664/page/2/ Therefore I think my chances are better with a poorer guy. There is always a chance of getting cheated on but chances are slightly better with a poorer guy. In this day and age, every bit helps. A lot of my female friends share the same view too. They also would prefer to date someone who wasn't well off due to the same reason and actually have told me they prefer to settle with someone who needs their help financially. I know a lot of people who are so paranoid about getting played and cheated and it is true that guys with money cheat more. Why would I want a guy with money when I have my own? I don't need anything material from a guy. All I care about is cheating. I don't care about paying for a guy because I make enough money, it doesn't affect me much. Now I would never date a complete gold digger who is ONLY with me for money, but I don't mind for paying for MOST of the stuff, as long as it's reasonable, and as long as they really are into me. A guy with money will have more women flock to him and have more opportunities to cheat. Plus they will have access to more financial resources to spend on hookers, massage parlors, escorts, wining and dining women... Sadly many women are also gold diggers... Statistically speaking the chances of a poor guy cheating are less. Of course a poor guy can still meet girls but he will have less opportunities than a wealthy man. I would much rather have to financially support a poor guy than be with a rich guy who will cheat on me.
riobikini Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 re: Joel: " ok who here has ever heard of a male gold digger? lol i know hey.... does it even exist?" I'm amused (dryly) by your amusement. And yes -there are male gold diggers. I've had the unfortunate experience(s) to attest to their "existence". My ex-husband *was* a CPA who scanned all his female clients financials for enough info to give him the green light to pursue them further for money. (If I had only known!) There were many others before me. After marriage, he immediately set about to levy all assets (as secretly/quietly as he could) into his possession -and was soooo creative and charming (at first) in his approach. Long story short: we are divorced, he no longer has a CPA license. It was one of the rare times I was very f*cking angry, and had to *do* something about it! I have experienced the awesome talents of such vermin twice in my life -once with this particular marriage, and as sorry luck would have it- again only one year later with an equally clever and charming career criminal who posed as God's Gift To Women on a dating site on the internet. He was an avid church-goer, stated he was a small business owner (actually turned out to be a bookie,a fence for stolen goods, and a car/check scam artist, among other lowly things) -and is a big part of the reason I detest those sites, which after I began talking to others, learned this happens all too often *without* it being reported (these men often blackmail the women.) Because of my experiences, I am much more watchful of what I have, in the sense that it is my *responsibility* to look after, and treat it with more *respect* under the simple/humble/trustworthy rules of everyday commonsense: (aka: if it walks like a duck....it probably *is* a duck, so lock up your grain-bin well, run like hell, and don't look back.) There may not be a Santa Claus -but yes- there *are* male gold diggers in the world. (Smile) -Rio
Lizzie60 Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 there are male gold diggers... but as far as I'm concerned, they're easy to spot... I call them 'losers'.
riobikini Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 re: Lizzie60: " ...they're easy to spot.." Sure, *some* are easy to spot. (With a full background check of everyone you date, maybe?) But the above comment (hopefully) shouldn't necessarily lead people to believe that gold diggers (male or female) are all that easy to spot -especially if it's about 1/2 -2/3 of their living. Even if the target person is bright, a well-seasoned, talented, -and charming- professional gold digger can seem just as "normal" as the next guy or gal, and respond to you in such an unassuming, casual way, that misdirects you from his/her goal, at least, for a limited time. That's one of the things that makes them dangerous. And successful. -Rio
Topper Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Can't say that there aren't male Gold Diggers. They are out there. As the Ladies have said, they are usally very charming, great looking and know what buttons to push and when to push them. The male Gold digger is not as common as the female Gold digger.
Topper Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Or move her in, charge her rent, and use that rent to pay his mortgage. And then when she starts asking about marriage, he's not 'ready'. Personally I see nothing wrong here. If she moves in, why shouldn't she pay her share of the bills? If she wants marriage she should have made that clear before she moved in.
Krytellan Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 I think they are definitely out there. In fact, I could probably take advantage of my GFs money if I tried. I'm just too... well, whatever... I never ask for money, even though she makes waaay more than me. But yes, it's definitely possible.
amerikajin Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 It's all about supply and demand, dogg. A male can be a gold digger, but he has to have something the lady wants in return. Usually it's an exchange between money and ego. Gold diggers almost feel a sense of entitlement and absolutely no shame about what they're doing, because they think that they're 'worth it'; they see themselves meeting the emotional needs of the other person, so they cash in on it.
Teddy and Jane Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Perfect idea! thanx I wouldn't move in with a guy that was paying for his house and charged me rent. I'm too smart for that. I wouldn't live with a guy unless I already was married to him. (And I'm not old fashioned, either.) Just for the precise reason that Nora has brought up. He has the milk (and then some), why buy the cow?
Teddy and Jane Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Personally I see nothing wrong here. If she moves in, why shouldn't she pay her share of the bills? If she wants marriage she should have made that clear before she moved in. Why should she be helping to pay off his mortgage when her name is not on the deed? Basically in that case, he is treating her like a tenant and he is a landlord. I had a guy I was seeing ask me to move in, owned a house, and he said if I moved in he would not expect a penny for rent, he had too much pride...but...he admitted he never wanted to get married or have kids. So....I had to break up with him. He was a really nice guy, though! He got engaged a year later to someone else but he called it off the week before the wedding. Poor woman.
Topper Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 As I said if moving in was a precursor to marriage she should make that clear. Once married he does not have to put her on title to the home. It was his house before they were a couple. Again that should be decided before they marry. Lets say he bought the house for $100,000 when they become a couple the home now is worth $300,000. Should she get 1/2 of the equity becuse she happens to live there? Lets turn the tables. What if she owned the Home and he moved in? Should he be afforded the same privileges? It's her home should he pay his share of the Bills? The rent gas electric and water? What if he does work on the house? cuts the grass fixes things. and helps with the up keep in labor and sweat.
Teddy and Jane Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Sure, the person moving in would contribute financially to food, water bills, electricity, etc. Like I said, I don't think moving in together is a good idea because it is not a complete commitment. A guy who really loves you doesn't need a "trial run" or a "test drive" as they call it. As far as if marriage does happen and she moves in, doesn't matter if his name is on the deed, she will get part of the house as the marriage deal because she lives in and contributes to the household. Another good reason to insist on marriage so it's legal.
Art_Critic Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 As far as if marriage does happen and she moves in, doesn't matter if his name is on the deed, she will get part of the house as the marriage deal because she lives in and contributes to the household. Another good reason to insist on marriage so it's legal. Actually that part is not necessarily true.. Although it depends on the state you live in and the laws of each state are different.. But in the state I live in you walk out of the marriage with what you walked in with and divide anything built or acquired during the marriage In Georgia the acquisition of Marital property starts the day you get married. Georgia is known as an equitable distribution state.. So.. any equity that the marital funds paid for during the marriage would be divided but the house itself and value of it are not considered marital property..but any increase in the value does become marital property
GregsBad Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 Why do you think this is funny? Yes, most of these women do end up leaving when they realize they're being duped and they're not going to get the marriage and family they want and deserve from a guy making false promises. There's nothing wrong with expecting her to share costs. But there is definelty something wrong if you think she should live for free ... why? Because she's the girl? When did this guy make ANY promises? All I've read so far is that he charged her rent to share his home. Then you jump to "she's been duped". And she DESERVES a marriage and family. OK, you can't stay at my place.
GregsBad Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 ... she will get part of the house as the marriage deal ... Another good reason to insist on marriage ... T & J, You really are a gold digger.
norajane Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 There's nothing wrong with expecting her to share costs. But there is definelty something wrong if you think she should live for free ... why? Because she's the girl? When did this guy make ANY promises? All I've read so far is that he charged her rent to share his home. Then you jump to "she's been duped". And she DESERVES a marriage and family. OK, you can't stay at my place. The living together fake-out is one of the ways guys free-load. They romance a girl and she falls in love. Then he moves her in, or he moves into her place, with the understanding that it's true luv and they will be together forever. After some time, she looks up and realizes she's the one buying all the groceries, she's the one paying the bills, she's the one lending him money to make his car payment that month while he buys the latest PlayStation, and yes, in some cases, she's the one paying all the rent while he pays nothing. And then it turns out, oh, he's not 'ready' to get married, and strings her along some more until she finally wises up and packs her bags or kicks him out. So much for true luv. My example - of a guy moving her in and charging her rent - means she is paying for his house while he pays nothing (because her rent is covering his mortgage payment), and she is losing out on the opportunity to build equity in her own house. The question in this thread is how can men be gold diggers. That's how. I didn't say she shouldn't contribute to the household expenses, but if it's not an equitable split, then he's leeching off her income for his own benefit...gold digging, or free loading, whatever you want to call it.
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