Men...how important is it that your girlfriend cooks for you?

[burning 4 revenge]

thats cause of the womens lib movement of the 60s and 70s. they wanted to get out of the house and make money and stuff. So basically they took men's jobs and their pay also. So today you have the avg man makeing $40k and the avg woman making $30k. If women weren't in the workforce then the avg man would be making $70k today.

 

So i blame it one the womens who have diluted the workforce.

Well in the black and white photos of my ancestors most of the women looked chubby and the guys looked thin. These days women are either anorexic or nearing obesity and the guys are either muscular or fat. So we're out of whack with nature somewhere. They're are numerous exceptions of course but I'm talking about trends.

[Pink Amulet]

*punches alpha in the stomach*

 

You do have a good point B4R.

 

Our convenient lifestyles have made us sedentary.

 

I can only see things getting easier and people getting fatter.

[Fun2BMe]

well that may not be the only cause but its a big reason why. like 50 years ago womens used to stay at home and cook good healthy meals and few people were fat. Now everyone eats out most of the time and we can see it in their wastelines. Theres gotta be some correlation there.

 

Have you taken a peek at 50 year old cookbooks? Yikes. Lard, lots of fat, no trimming of fat, no lean anything, no lowfat anything. Whole milk. Back then people ate smaller portions. They were more physically active. Kids didn't sit in front of myspace or videogames all day. They played or went to the park.

 

Kitchens were very small back then, the size of a walk in closet. Today it is a focal point. Look at Emeril. He cooks but he is overweight. People eat and eat bigger and bigger portions without discipline,something that was more in vogue 50 years ago. Today everyone plays the victim card, blaming everyone else for their shortcomings. Even Rachel Rae isn't the thinnest gal on the block and I don't think she is a regular at fast food joints.

 

And I agree Burning4revenge, women were a lot heavier 50 years ago. Just look at hollywood movies from that time. The women would be considered obses by today's film standards. They were fed fat diets and had no access to gyms. Going another 50 years back, it was more of an agricultural culture without cars, working on the field and more physical, so it makes sense people are so fat today.

[alphamale]

Today everyone plays the victim card, blaming everyone else for their shortcomings.

yea and collectively women aren't taking the blame either. They are now working and makeing money instead of being in the kitchen and the results are showing now. Obeisity is rampant, heart disease, diabetes mellitus, blah blah blah. Even some 8 year old kids weight in at 200 lbs.

[Fun2BMe]

Also historically there used to be droughts, depressions and bad year for the crop, limiting food supply. Today even the poorest have access to a lot of food via foodstamps and government assistance. Nobody is starving. Even the homeless have access to ample soup kitchen style feeding places they eat at. Jobs used to be more physical, whether at the factory or the field. Today most people sit behind a cubicle, 'snacking' all day long. Throw in all the beer and pretzels, and that doesn't help either.

[burning 4 revenge]

Also I think the gym phenomena has had some inverted results for guys. That other thread about guys bulking up is case-in-point. Young men are encouraged to consume more calories then go in the gym to convert it to muscle. Their natural leaness is berated. So they bulk up in their teens and twenties and look like strong gorillas and then become fat by their thirties when work, age and injuries no longer permit them to maintain that strength level. It's dumb.

[Teddy and Jane]

Rachel Ray is definitely not overweight, though, I'm sure she's within a healthy BMI range. Many of today's film actresses, I would consider them unhealthily underweight.

[alphamale]

Rachel Ray is definitely not overweight, though, I'm sure she's within a healthy BMI range.

yea but she's got like this funky body. small chest and wider abdomen and then her skinny chicken legs. her bottom looks funny too. but she has a cute face and smile

[Fun2BMe]

Rachel Ray is definitely not overweight, though, I'm sure she's within a healthy BMI range. Many of today's film actresses, I would consider them unhealthily underweight.

 

Maybe Al Roker would be a better example. He has his cooking show in addition to hosting the Morning Show. He can afford personal chefs and access to the healthiest foods, yet he had to have his stomach stapled cuz he obviously couldn't stop eating.

 

yea but she's got like this funky body. small chest and wider abdomen and then her skinny chicken legs. her bottom looks funny too. but she has a cute face and smile

And her arms are really small for claiming to be 5'4" supposedly. She is so snobby and annoying but does have a cute face and smile I guess.

[Teddy and Jane]

yea but she's got like this funky body. small chest and wider abdomen and then her skinny chicken legs. her bottom looks funny too. but she has a cute face and smile

That's your opinion, but it's off-topic, really.

[Teddy and Jane]

Yes, but I have been 30 pounds overweight in the past, and I know how much of a struggle the weight issue can be. I know that a lot of people who are obese, it is emotional issues, it is difficult. Food addiction is as bad or worse than alcoholism.

I don't like it when people criticize women's bodies like Alphamale did because I am a teacher and see how obsessed teen girls are with dieting, and negative body images, etc.

[Fun2BMe]

Yes, but I have been 30 pounds overweight in the past, and I know how much of a struggle the weight issue can be. I know that a lot of people who are obese, it is emotional issues, it is difficult. Food addiction is as bad or worse than alcoholism.

I don't like it when people criticize women's bodies like Alphamale did because I am a teacher and see how obsessed teen girls are with dieting, and negative body images, etc.

 

I agree that food addiction and emotional issues contribute significantly to obesity. I wouldn't blame the access to unhealthy food as the sole contributor, considering the greasy diners and drive-ins of the past, in addition to the non-availability to healthy alternatives of the past.

 

Incidentally I am listening to NPR and they are talking about retro recipes, like "cream cheese stuffed salomi". Yup, it was all fat back in the day.

 

With all that said, I think that for men to expect women to do all the cooking is like expecting the women to get the men off sexually without reciprocating. If the women is ok with that role, then that's fine. But most women complain about doing all the cooking and I think it's a miserable role to take on.

[alphamale]

considering the greasy diners and drive-ins of the past, in addition to the non-availability to healthy alternatives of the past.

look F2BM, in the past people would go out to eat like twice per year on special occasions. women used to stay at home and cook and take care of their families. now a days families are breaking up due to divorce and dual incomes stresses. people are eating crap from outside sources. this is all due to womens lib movement.

[Fun2BMe]

look F2BM, in the past people would go out to eat like twice per year on special occasions. women used to stay at home and cook and take care of their families. now a days families are breaking up due to divorce and dual incomes stresses. people are eating crap from outside sources. this is all due to womens lib movement.

 

You know alphamale,for every fast food, there is just as easy access to a healthy alternative. Whether at the deli section of the grocery store, a soup and salad place or packing your own sandwich and apple. A woman spending 5 hours in the kitchen making lasagna or meatloaf from scratch with homemade pie or cake for dessert is not the healthiest or cheapest path to a thin waistline, not to mention the most time efficient.

 

In the past men thought woman weren't smart enough to 'do things' and reduced them to cooking and cleaning after them. Today women WANT to work, and if they don't work, they prefer to eat out or hire a chef because they have better things to do (like getting their nails done or taking a nap) than to be wasting time in the kitchen. It doesn't equate to people being fatter. That makes no sense.

 

With more income than ever, people can afford gym memberships and to make healthy food choices.

[alphamale]

You know alphamale,for every fast food, there is just as easy access to a healthy alternative.

is it coincidence that all the fast food outlets and chain restaurants started taking off around the same time women entered the workforce in droves?

[Fun2BMe]

is it coincidence that all the fast food outlets and chain restaurants started taking off around the same time women entered the workforce in droves?

 

Then why don't men choose to stay at home to cook? Why are you so women belong in the kitchen mentality? Let them take cooking classes and spend all day over a burning stove. Thank god men can't force us into those roles anymore. How convenient of you to blame women for men's beer bellies and stuffed guts. "If only they'd go back to the kitchen we wouldn't be weighing 300 pounds." Sorry but again you are blaming someone else, playing the victim card.

[Woggle]

If a woman can't cook at least treat me to take out or take me out to eat once in a while. Do something to show me she meant it when she promised to love and cherish me during our vows.

[burning 4 revenge]

I think Woggle has a secret fetish for militant feminists. In his heart he knows I'm right

[Fun2BMe]

If a woman can't cook at least treat me to take out or take me out to eat once in a while. Do something to show me she meant it when she promised to love and cherish me during our vows.

 

If she doesn't cook and you loved and felt loved to the point of marrying her, then after the vows you will feel unloved if she doesn't cook? Most women work as many hours as men, and cooking can take several hours. If you love her, you won't make her work so hard. Why don't you cook for her if you love her? Women are more fragile physically and therefore more exhausted at the end of the day, when many still have to take care of the kids and some clean also I would suspect. The cooking can be done equally by man or woman and I feel sorry for the woman who are forced to take on that role if it's not something they want to do.

[Woggle]

If she doesn't cook and you loved and felt loved to the point of marrying her, then after the vows you will feel unloved if she doesn't cook? Most women work as many hours as men, and cooking can take several hours. If you love her, you won't make her work so hard. Why don't you cook for her if you love her? Women are more fragile physically and therefore more exhausted at the end of the day, when many still have to take care of the kids and some clean also I would suspect. The cooking can be done equally by man or woman and I feel sorry for the woman who are forced to take on that role if it's not something they want to do.

 

Like I said she doesn't have to cook but at least take me out to eat once in a while. Treating a man out to eat takes little physical effort and to me would mean as much as cooking but even that is too much for some feminists. In some women's eyes treating a man with any love and respect means a woman is a stepford wife.

[rainfall]

because things were much better when the sexes had their own roles and responsibilities. society and marriage have gone down the tubes in the past 30 or 40 years. and I blame most of it on bra-burning women who say crap like "no i wont make dinner...."

 

a real women cooks and cleans and takes care of her kids and husband.

 

 

Well I guess I'm not a real women then. However I don't think the fact that all women no longer cook for there man has anything to do with failed relationships.

My partners were married 20 plus years and they had traditional roles and just got divorced a few years ago.

But yes I do say "no I won't make dinner." Not so much because I don't want to take care of my man, but because I am tired after work and all I want to do is relax.

[Trialbyfire]

Cooking is a fundamental task that both genders should do so they can eat healthy. Knowing how to cook well has nothing to do with being guaranteed fat. I'm a size 0 - 2, so this throws that ridiculous statement out the window. Overindulging, sedentary lifestyles and metabolic differences cause issues.

 

I love to cook and ensure that I cook things I like. It's a combination of knowing that the food I prep has good, healthy ingredients and will taste the way I like it.

 

Even if both genders are working, there's no excuse for not being able to cook.

[pelagicsands]

Knowing how to cook well has nothing to do with being guaranteed fat.

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[Trialbyfire]

http://psjk.homestead.com/twofatladies.html

Take a look at their recipes. It's not surprising if people gain weight based on what they use...

 

Not the most health conscious people.

[pelagicsands]

Take a look at their recipes.

They aim for taste, rather than wanting to extend their lives to the bitter end. Anyway, why not live a little... Canadians have great healthcare.