Trialbyfire Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 don't gimme that politically correct baloney TBF It's not politically correct baloney. But...in order to refute your points on that one, I would have to get into detail and I don't kiss and tell. I will say that I've yet to be dissappointed, more pleasantly surprised...
SouthernT Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 LOL!!!!! I think everybody BEAT THIS ISSUE TO DEATH in my thread:MEN:All you want is sex thread. I never thought that thread would EVER end. lol... I think it all boils down to power stuggles and respect. I think the lesson for the guys is: Stop expecting a girl to give it up if you havent put in absolutley ANY work or effort and be upfront and tell the girl if you see her as girlfriend material or not. And I think the lesson for the girls is: Not to base the potential outcome of a man wanting a relationship SOLEY based on whether or not you are intimate with him. He either likes you or he doesent. Whether or not you have sex with him will not change the fact that he IS or ISNT into you. Just learn to read the signs BEFORE hand. And if I'm wrong...somebody please feel free to correct my statement. Me personally, If a guy tells me that he doesnt see me as being his girlfriend or he's says he's just looking for a good time and enjoying the dating game.....then that tells me (or I tell myself rather) that he wont get sex from me either and we should be able to hang out without sexual expectations.
Author GregsBad Posted April 30, 2007 Author Posted April 30, 2007 Have to agree with a lot of what SoutherT says here. Since I've been dating, I experimented with boldly telling dates that I'm not in this for marriage nor a committment. Not against it, but not looking for it. Some say goodby - some say what I hoped they'd say - some who said goodby changed their minds and came back. But I get much more of what I want than ever before. It works great! I don't think that's being a player. Being a player is when a guy lies to get his way.
Author GregsBad Posted April 30, 2007 Author Posted April 30, 2007 Actually, I'm just saying what a guy who wants me should be like. Is it a lot to ask? Sure, but I know that it is possible. It seems like there are a ton of people on here that hold the same opinion that "guys don't have that control" but I think the truth of it is that most guys don't try all that hard. Why should they? Everybody keeps saying that it's alright for guys to have no control so why bother? I think that that attitude accounts for at least part of why, but I also think that the attitude that everything except for actual intercourse is still okay would probably help with the "not having control" part. Maybe I'm completely off, but hey, all I can share is my thoughts. Thanks, I appreciate those thoughts.
whichwayisup Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 most females who are very attracted to a particular male won't be able to "hold out"... Yes, alpha is bang-on with this one. If a woman is really into him, within afew weeks (or with some, afew days or so) to a month sex IS gonna happen. 1. Does she really think he's being celibate and going without? (I'm thinking back here...) Yes. But, I would assume he's masterbating alot! 2. If she does give it up early and gets dumped, does she really think it's because she gave it up too soon? Is there any possibility that it just wasn't so good? Because I think he'd be coming back if it was good. Yes, and most women/girls will feel that is all he wanted. To get into her panties and all it was, was a f.uck. 3. If she held out for a long time, then gave it up, how would she feel if he dumped her then? Like, after all this wait, it just wasn't so good? Means the rest of the relationship wasn't working out and the sex didn't do anything to make it better... 4. If she really can hold out for months -doesn't that say something negative about her libido? Why would a man want a woman who could do that? NO, cuz sometimes it's nice to lead up to it and hey, never rush a good thing. It's worth waiting for....As long as it's not too many months of waiting. (how many months are you talking about? Cuz after 3-6 months of still no sex, forget it.) 5. If he really can wait for months - doesn't that really say something negative about his libido? Why would a woman want a man who could do that? No, it means that he really cares for her and is willing to wait until she is ready. It's respectful and also (if this makes any sense) lets the intimacy grow emotionally without having sex. That closeness is there already and when the night comes (cums) it happens - The sex confirms it and the relationship is better.
chryssy83 Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 1. Does she really think he's being celibate and going without? I hope he is...a lot of people on here think that women will have sex with you if they are interested. I never have and I'm waiting for marriage. It isn't that hard once you get to a certain age. Yeah I want to, but I want to finish waiting more. I don't expect it to make sense to everyone. Also...my current bf hasn't for the time we've been together and I don't think he would do it now if I said I changed my mind. He'd be tempted, but I think he would know that the consequences for me could be such that it wasn't worth it. If we marry someday it'll be time. 4. If she really can hold out for months -doesn't that say something negative about her libido? Why would a man want a woman who could do that? Because he's not just looking for sex, maybe? Or because he appreciates self-discipline or having something I really believe in? 5. If he really can wait for months - doesn't that really say something negative about his libido? Why would a woman want a man who could do that? No, it says he thinks you're worth it. I want a man like that because it shows he's committed and values what I value. For those who are just looking for sex, the women who are "holding out" aren't for you. And yeah, sometimes they are just playing--but not all of us are. Some of us are serious. And maybe sometimes you say goodbye and they say "my place or yours." But some of us say goodbye and mean it. If a woman says that she doesn't want to sleep with you for weeks or months or years, try respecting her wishes. If they weren't sincere, then she'll either 1) come back or 2) learn to stop being so damn fake. If she is sincere, she won't have wasted time with someone who clearly wants something completely different out of things.
Author GregsBad Posted May 1, 2007 Author Posted May 1, 2007 1. Does she really think he's being celibate and going without? I hope he is...a lot of people on here think that women will have sex with you if they are interested. I never have and I'm waiting for marriage. It isn't that hard once you get to a certain age. Yeah I want to, but I want to finish waiting more. I don't expect it to make sense to everyone. Also...my current bf hasn't for the time we've been together and I don't think he would do it now if I said I changed my mind. He'd be tempted, but I think he would know that the consequences for me could be such that it wasn't worth it. If we marry someday it'll be time. 4. If she really can hold out for months -doesn't that say something negative about her libido? Why would a man want a woman who could do that? Because he's not just looking for sex, maybe? Or because he appreciates self-discipline or having something I really believe in? 5. If he really can wait for months - doesn't that really say something negative about his libido? Why would a woman want a man who could do that? No, it says he thinks you're worth it. I want a man like that because it shows he's committed and values what I value. For those who are just looking for sex, the women who are "holding out" aren't for you. And yeah, sometimes they are just playing--but not all of us are. Some of us are serious. And maybe sometimes you say goodbye and they say "my place or yours." But some of us say goodbye and mean it. If a woman says that she doesn't want to sleep with you for weeks or months or years, try respecting her wishes. If they weren't sincere, then she'll either 1) come back or 2) learn to stop being so damn fake. If she is sincere, she won't have wasted time with someone who clearly wants something completely different out of things. I read all of this Chryssy and I appreciate this very much. Thanks
alphamale Posted May 1, 2007 Posted May 1, 2007 Yes, alpha is bang-on with this one. If a woman is really into him, within afew weeks (or with some, afew days or so) to a month sex IS gonna happen. sometimes the first date.....some new study came out recently that says that nowadays even if a couple has sex on the first date it doesn't affect the length of their relationship.
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