alphamale Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 My belief is that women start most romantic relationships with the men of their choosing and men have little say in the matter. Some believe this isn't the case. Everything I've read and experienced over the last 20+ years leads me to believe that women have much more power in the early stages of the relationship as to whom they want to be with. Most men are easy and will date anyone who's fairly suitable. WOmen are much more picky and have the last say as to who they'll date and sleep with. I also think that if a man wants to be successful with women he needs to know these facts. What do you folks think?
tanbark813 Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 I disagree. I've ended most of my relationships and have turned down plenty of women who wanted to be more than just f**kbuddies.
blind_otter Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 My belief is that women start most romantic relationships with the men of their choosing and men have little say in the matter. Some believe this isn't the case. Everything I've read and experienced over the last 20+ years leads me to believe that women have much more power in the early stages of the relationship as to whom they want to be with. Most men are easy and will date anyone who's fairly suitable. WOmen are much more picky and have the last say as to who they'll date and sleep with. I also think that if a man wants to be successful with women he needs to know these facts. What do you folks think? I agree with you, alpha. No argument here.
Author alphamale Posted April 27, 2007 Author Posted April 27, 2007 I disagree. I've ended most of my relationships and have turned down plenty of women who wanted to be more than just f**kbuddies. we're talking about starting relationships and who chooses who at the beginning. you're only gonna "score" with the women who like you. I dont' care who ends it once its started.
tanbark813 Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 you're only gonna "score" with the women who like you. Obviously. And only girls who I like are going to "score" with me. You've never turned down a girl before? That's not very alpha. I dont' care who ends it once its started. Well that was part of your post that prompted this thread. But as for who picks whom, there have been girls who wanted a relationship with me to whom I said no. I can only speak from personal experience, of course, so if you're right then maybe I'm just an anomaly.
Author alphamale Posted April 27, 2007 Author Posted April 27, 2007 You've never turned down a girl before? hundreds... most mens criteria for getting laid are a lot lower than most women's criteria.
tanbark813 Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 most mens criteria for getting laid are a lot lower than most women's criteria. Maybe, but both people have to choose for something to happen, otherwise it's technically rape.
jcster Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 My belief is that women start most romantic relationships with the men of their choosing and men have little say in the matter. I agree somewhat - but I think it's a little less cut and dried. As I've experienced it, men who are interested present themselves for consideration. Women choose from that available pool. There are times where this falls flat though, since it's up to the woman to decide which man is willing and which isn't. When we mis-choose, then (often after the guy takes advantage of the situation) we are rejected. That's why, as time goes on, the wiley guys learn the difficult task of showing interest without being creeps - and women learn to slow down and make sure that there is true interest before they make a choice. My 2 cents from the other side of the gender-lines.
Author alphamale Posted April 27, 2007 Author Posted April 27, 2007 My 2 cents from the other side of the gender-lines. thanks JCSTER....your opinion is valued.
whichwayisup Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 I think that many women "know" when they've met the person they're gonna spend the rest of their life with before a guy realizes it. Sure, he may be very into her and wanting a relationship with her, but I'm not too sure if the whole marriage/kids thing is in his head as they relationship starts, like it is with most women.
quankanne Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 don't remember where I heard this, but I've always thought there is more truth in it or not: A woman chooses her mate and spends a long time cultivating hiim for marriage, while a man dates indiscriminately until he's ready to marry. so yeah, I tend to believe that a woman is the one who sets the tone for the relationship, as to whether it's going to be ****-buddies or something permanent. I know that in my particular case, I knew my husband was the one long before he truly considered me marriage material ...
pelagicsands Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 Both sides are equally picky. You get the best deal you can score. Anything less, and you have this nagging feeling that you got short-changed. Anything more, and your insecurities kick in to fix that "problem." Each "side" might be looking for different things, but they are equally picky. There's no doubt about that.
tanbark813 Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 Each "side" might be looking for different things, but they are equally picky. There's no doubt about that. thanks pelagic....your opinion is valued.
Author alphamale Posted April 27, 2007 Author Posted April 27, 2007 Each "side" might be looking for different things, but they are equally picky. There's no doubt about that. I don't agree with that at all....many men just want looks and many women want "the whole package".
Author alphamale Posted April 27, 2007 Author Posted April 27, 2007 thanks pelagic....your opinion is valued. well atleast he had an opinion this time....instead of spewing out nonsense like usual
pelagicsands Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 I don't agree with that at all....many men just want looks and many women want "the whole package". What's your point?? I mean, women don't have a package. Not the ones I'm interested in, anyway. Like I said, the criteria are different. But the "pickiness" is the same.
tanbark813 Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 well atleast he had an opinion this time....instead of spewing out nonsense like usual To be fair, at least it's funny.
Author alphamale Posted April 27, 2007 Author Posted April 27, 2007 But the "pickiness" is the same. well yea individuals who have more to offer can be more picky. a doctor can be pickier than a janitor and a runway model can be pickier than ugly betty. so what?
tanbark813 Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 well yea individuals who have more to offer can be more picky. a doctor can be pickier than a janitor and a runway model can be pickier than ugly betty. so what? So then it would follow that those who have more to offer are going to experience being the ones to choose more of the time.
Author alphamale Posted April 27, 2007 Author Posted April 27, 2007 So then it would follow that those who have more to offer are going to experience being the ones to choose more of the time. sure....but most guys will bang any good looking woman whereas most women will not bang any good looking guy.
Trialbyfire Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 sure....but most guys will bang any good looking woman whereas most women will not bang any good looking guy. Dead on alpha.
tanbark813 Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 sure....but most guys will bang any good looking woman whereas most women will not bang any good looking guy. There's a difference between wanting to bang someone and wanting to date them. Looks as the deciding criteria only holds true in the former case (unless the person is an idiot).
pelagicsands Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 Dead on alpha. I know you're very particular about who you bang. Just make sure to hose down the bus afterwards.
Trialbyfire Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 Just make sure to hose down the bus afterwards. Why? They're my notches on the bedpost...per se...
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