Topper Posted April 23, 2007 Posted April 23, 2007 I saw reading of the issues of gun control . Reflecting back on what some people hav said there. That got me thinking about all the Murders that get reported over love gone wrong. Jealous BF, Husbands, Wives and GF have all taken a life in a fit of jealous rage. Wife catches her husband coming out of a hotel runs him over 3 times with a car. a Husband catches his wife in bed with her lover and kills them both. a boyfriend Kills his lovers husband because she told him he was sexually abusing her and her kids. Turns out she was lying. A School Teacher hires one of her students to kill her husband so she can be with her Teenage lover. A teenage boyfriend thinks his girlfriend is Cheat because she is being secretive. He beats her to death in a fit of rage. Why was she secretive she was planing surprise party for his birthday. i could post 100s of more true stories. When love and emotions are running high, otherwise sane rational people can do things that nobody ever thought they could do. When you are with your lover do you ever think just how horrible things could be?
Trialbyfire Posted April 23, 2007 Posted April 23, 2007 Wife catches her husband coming out of a hotel runs him over 3 times with a car <=== Ms. Crabtree drives a bus...
scaredinlove Posted April 23, 2007 Posted April 23, 2007 When you are with your lover do you ever think just how horrible things could be? After we got casught I thought of it msny times but decided that there wasn't much i could do since situations like that are out of my control. Before I got caughtg I never thought about it because I had no idea that his W and my ex-H would go so crazy.
whichwayisup Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 <=== Ms. Crabtree drives a bus... You just made me snort! That's fricken funny!
whichwayisup Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 because I had no idea that his W and my ex-H would go so crazy. I really don't mean to be harsh or rude, but how could you NOT expect a betrayed spouse to react so crazy??? It's the ULIMATE betrayal - Cheat on your husband/wife... People do stuff when they're emotionally distraught. Maybe not completely postal, but definately reacting and doing without thinking -That kind of raw emotion makes people FEEL crazy, let alone, scared.
Trialbyfire Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 You just made me snort! That's fricken funny! Hope you weren't drinking anything at the time. I'd hate for someone to have a painful experience because of me.
whichwayisup Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 Hope you weren't drinking anything at the time. I'd hate for someone to have a painful experience because of me. Nope, not at all. Just sitting here laughing. Scared the cat though as she was sleeping on a blanket by the computer and when I snorted she woke up suddenly with that WTF was THAT?? look on her face!
NoIDidn't Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 There is something that wasn't mentioned here. The WS that kills himself and his/her kids because they can't make a decision or feel that the hole they dug is too deep to get out of. There was a young man in his early twenties that was killed by a co-worker over a woman in another state that was talking to the both of them over the internet. Jealousy and rage. And this woman was lying to them both that she was young and beautiful, when she was old and tired. Think she was blamed in this death when she was clearly playing with their heads? Nope. OPs that show up at the marital home hoping to "get picked" and instead get shot. There was a story online recently about a MM that tried to get his former OW raped by a stranger. Posted her info on a bondage site and said it was her fantasy, posting as her asking for it. People are crazy, and you really have to be STUPID to take chances with your life and those of your loved ones by getting involved in a situation that has proven time and time again to have mostly bad to HORRIBLE outcomes. I would rather be stranded on a deserted island than have an affair and all the drama that comes with it.
IfWishesWereHorses Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 I have heard time and time again OW complaining about the W's "crazy behaviour" after discovery of the affair! (ya think!) Each time I am thinking, "you should count your lucky stars that she didn't go postal on you." I think these things are an important lesson and that IF you are going to enter into an affair with a married person that you would be wise to do a personality test on the spouse. "John, I would love to sleep with you and become your secret fantasy lover but would you please have your wife fill out this questionaire, just want to make sure she has no homicidal tendancies."
bigblueeyes Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 "John, I would love to sleep with you and become your secret fantasy lover but would you please have your wife fill out this questionaire, just want to make sure she has no homicidal tendancies." That is freaking hilariuos Luckily, my A happened in a country with gun control, MM's wife does not drive a bus, and we are terribly civilised people with very stiff upper lips. Though, when MM's W found out he had continued seeing me after she found out about the A even though they were in couples counselling to save their marriage, she slapped him around - and if you ask me, he deserved it.
Author Topper Posted April 24, 2007 Author Posted April 24, 2007 I have heard time and time again OW complaining about the W's "crazy behaviour" after discovery of the affair! (ya think!) Each time I am thinking, "you should count your lucky stars that she didn't go postal on you." I think these things are an important lesson and that IF you are going to enter into an affair with a married person that you would be wise to do a personality test on the spouse. "John, I would love to sleep with you and become your secret fantasy lover but would you please have your wife fill out this questionaire, just want to make sure she has no homicidal tendancies." In most cases the Wife kills the cheating Husband. The other woman has the odds in her favors to speak. In the heat of the moment we seem to turn off our inner moral compass. We also fail to look at the possible end results. Maybe in Affairs everybody puts on their rose colored glasses. We see happy endings and rainbows forever. In my life I have seen 2 people that I personal knew get involved with violence because of an affair. One an old High School friend. Many years after HS Mark had an affair. The women told him she was going back to her Husband,in a fit of rage he strangled her to death. Mark was a shy guy in HS and very low key. the last person you would ever guess could kill a woman. Another was a neighbor and friend. He had an Affair with a married woman. She got a divorce and the tow of then were moving into a house together. I was helping him pack some stuff up. At their new home her now ex husband shows up. He seems cool and calm tells mike he needs to talk to his ex about the custody. Mike stays out by the Moving truck to give them some time to talk. Next thing he hears is two shots. He runs in the House his GF is dead on the kitchen floor. The back door is open and Mike runs into the ally chasing the ex husband. The Husbands turns aims at mike, Mike stops and watches as the ex kills himself.
IfWishesWereHorses Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 Aww geee topper, Can't imagine how you could ever get that out of your head. It does say alot about the rage involved in betrayal, and its an age old story actually.
Author Topper Posted April 24, 2007 Author Posted April 24, 2007 Even with all that in the head on my shoulders. Sometimes the little one that lives in my pants starts a circuit over ride. Yes when I was married there were temptations. Some how the head on shoulders won out.
Trialbyfire Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 Even with all that in the head on my shoulders. Sometimes the little one that lives in my pants starts a circuit over ride. Yes when I was married there were temptations. Some how the head on shoulders won out. Hey, that temptation happens to all of us. It's how you choose to handle the temptation is how you define yourself.
NoIDidn't Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 Another case in point: Retarded woman stabbed her 3 year old son. Sounds like when her A with her H's friend was exposed, she feared losing custody of her son. I bet she never intended for anyone to get hurt, least of all her own son by her own hand.
Author Topper Posted April 24, 2007 Author Posted April 24, 2007 Hey, that temptation happens to all of us. It's how you choose to handle the temptation is how you define yourself. I'm tempted by ms Crabtree... When she threatens to kill the bunny:bunny: I, I. I just can't control myself!! What can I say I'm a sick sick sick depraved man.
Trialbyfire Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 I'm tempted by ms Crabtree... When she threatens to kill the bunny:bunny: I, I. I just can't control myself!! What can I say I'm a sick sick sick depraved man. Roadkill is my specialty... Mwahahahaha...
scaredinlove Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 I really don't mean to be harsh or rude, but how could you NOT expect a betrayed spouse to react so crazy??? It's the ULIMATE betrayal - Cheat on your husband/wife... People do stuff when they're emotionally distraught. Maybe not completely postal, but definately reacting and doing without thinking -That kind of raw emotion makes people FEEL crazy, let alone, scared. I guess hurt but not crazy. His W had a OM for many many yrs ans My H act like I was part of the furniture, his maid and provider since he barely worked., There was not much of l,ove there. So their reaction were really ridicule, in face of the way they behaved in the marriages.I understand a dedicated , loving partner to be like that, but neither one were dedicated or loving, So yes I thought their reactions were out of proportion. Also my fiance before my H ( we lived togheter) cheated on me and I remember being really hurt but I didn't become violent or ridicule. So I didn't expect their reaction to be so strong.
Fun2BMe Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 How about Lisa Nowak the high school validitorian turned successful astronaut, wife with 3 kids. She was dating a man (not sure if she was divorced or still married) and the man was cheating on her with another woman. She wears diapers to cut time on stopping on her 900 mile drive to see him and his lover and had packed in her car: "a BB gun, a knife, a steel mallet, pepper spray, rubber tubing, large plastic bags, and six latex gloves." I guess love is a strong emotion that makes us act outside our oridinary boundaries. (She was wearing NASA style diapers that absorb 1000 more fluid that astronauts wear in space called Disposable Absorption Containment Trunks (DACTs))
lovernotafighter Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 There is something that wasn't mentioned here. The WS that kills himself and his/her kids because they can't make a decision or feel that the hole they dug is too deep to get out of. There was a young man in his early twenties that was killed by a co-worker over a woman in another state that was talking to the both of them over the internet. Jealousy and rage. And this woman was lying to them both that she was young and beautiful, when she was old and tired. Think she was blamed in this death when she was clearly playing with their heads? Nope. OPs that show up at the marital home hoping to "get picked" and instead get shot. There was a story online recently about a MM that tried to get his former OW raped by a stranger. Posted her info on a bondage site and said it was her fantasy, posting as her asking for it. People are crazy, and you really have to be STUPID to take chances with your life and those of your loved ones by getting involved in a situation that has proven time and time again to have mostly bad to HORRIBLE outcomes. I would rather be stranded on a deserted island than have an affair and all the drama that comes with it. I'll either be hit with a 2X4 or completely ignored for this but I believe I'm in this category. in Nov I broke up with my MM yet again, I went NC and did really well for 6 weeks. till it happened. his wife was hospitalized and in a burn unit with Stevens Johnson's syndrome a horrible allergic reaction to medication that can kill you and survivors are often left blind and or scared terribly. his wife had this lesions that were taking her skin off like a burn victim, at it's peek they said she might in fact die. she survived and was okay but she is scared now on her face and body. we broke NC because of this and I had sick suspicion that MM was responsible..and the more time pasted and we talked the more I certain that this IS true. here's why: the day she was fearing most for her life he came to work. worked 10 hours left and came back to see ME.(he lives 45mins away from work) he then went to the bar with other supervisors. (her fever if I recall was over 105 and they said her face was unrecognisable her eyes could not even open) he told me when I confronted him over this horrible act of not being there for her was..I feel for her like a acquaintance..theres really nothing I can do so why should I worry. he also said "if she's going to survive I hope she can work because I can't afford 'her' " (omg this is his WIFE! shouldn't he be happy she is going to live regardless of whether or not she can bring home some bacon??) in February we got back together as a ow/mm briefly. he told me he has thought about giving his wife placebos many times to get her out of the picture/ perhaps to go crazy or die..he said this more than once and when I looked on in horror he'd say he was just joking. * his wife has been on the same anti-depressants and thyroid medication (also something for having a full hysterectomy) for years - she should not have had a allergic reaction to the already being taken medication!* he says he can not divorce his right now because: - of coarse his child: she will take him from me she will turn his against me I will never be a part of his life and give him what he deserves as a father because he will by choice not be around his wife in any way after the divorce. - that his wife will totally go crazy: she has already threaten suicide w/out knowing the A or his wanting a divorce. - has used her son as a pawn and a crutch and has abused him- he believes she will take out all her anger on their child. - he believes she will also hurt me to get him to come home and do everything she can to bastardize him to everyone he loves. to listen to my MM and also his friend and family that I have met and talk to they confirm most of what MM tells me. MM feels trapped and isolated.he is to afraid to face this marriage dissolving until his son is old enough to see the situation more clearly so he will not suffer the fall out as badly...his son is also on anti-depressants..he just turned 8. we broke up again hmm early march but we have decided to try to maintain friendship.. I do in my heart believe he did this to her..I think some of things he told were for me to ask point blank..but I would not. I have nightmares and vomiting many nights wrestling if he did this horrible thing..but theres no proof other than he proved he's a heartless bastard to me and I am sure his wife feels this way as well. we work directly together now which was something we had never done before. same hours, department, etc... he admitted to me he feels we are falling back into what we had done before and he is starting to pull 12-14hrs shifts so he doesn't have to go home. I am starting to try to pull away because, yes I am worried about me and my heart, cause we do still love each other but I never want him to hurt his wife again..not in a affair/ not in any way. I have prayed for her to be happy, I had prayed for him to become compassionate and asked god forgive me for my part in this. I truly don't ever want this to happen again.
Woggle Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 I would never kill anybody else or myself if I found out my wife was cheating on me. No woman is worth losing my life or my freedom over.
torranceshipman Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 LovernotaFighter, how on earth can you keep this MM in your life? Something is clearly very wrong with him. Shouldn't you be passing these suspicions along to the police? As if he's tried it once he may well try it again, and this time, he might be successful. How would you feel if you saw this happen and had done nothing to voice your suspicions to protect the poor woman the first time round? Even if he didn't do it, his reaction to his W being in hospital is very odd and very sick - that alone should make you run for the hills. Sounds like an extremely selfish, sick guy to me.
Author Topper Posted April 25, 2007 Author Posted April 25, 2007 Lovernotafighter, If you are for real, I hope you do the right thing.
NoIDidn't Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 LNF Damn, girl. That's deep. He sounds like a regular Scott Peterson. I am glad to hear that you are pulling away but please tell the authorities your suspicions. Please. Please. Pretty Please. That is so cliched. Killing your spouse to be with your lover. And sick. Be safe. Don't let him know you suspect. He sounds like he is overall abusive to HER and SHE is just reacting (suicide threats and all) to HIS BS!!!
mrmaximum Posted April 27, 2007 Posted April 27, 2007 There is something that wasn't mentioned here. The WS that kills himself and his/her kids because they can't make a decision or feel that the hole they dug is too deep to get out of. There was a young man in his early twenties that was killed by a co-worker over a woman in another state that was talking to the both of them over the internet. Jealousy and rage. And this woman was lying to them both that she was young and beautiful, when she was old and tired. Think she was blamed in this death when she was clearly playing with their heads? Nope. OPs that show up at the marital home hoping to "get picked" and instead get shot. There was a story online recently about a MM that tried to get his former OW raped by a stranger. Posted her info on a bondage site and said it was her fantasy, posting as her asking for it. People are crazy, and you really have to be STUPID to take chances with your life and those of your loved ones by getting involved in a situation that has proven time and time again to have mostly bad to HORRIBLE outcomes. I would rather be stranded on a deserted island than have an affair and all the drama that comes with it. Damn skippy. Read a story in the paper along side the female astronaut, a European lady plunged to her death during a regular sky dive when the guy she was two timing with (she was married with two kids and her hubby had no idea what was going on) had a second girl on the side!! She got jealous, she got even and she sabotaged the lady's gear. She died while her group watched in horror. Emotions can run high, eveyone knows this, but as my old teacher once said, "You can do anything you want, if you are willing to pay the consequences." If you are going to swim in someone else's pool, then if you find yourself running across their lawn trying to escape the dogs, that was ALSO part of the package!!
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