Sand&Water Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 Here is the deal. I was at the Bank a few months ago -which I frequently used to visit because of business but less frequently nowadays. There is a guy that works there. At the beginning, I'd notice he'd be staring at me -and I'm not talking about one or two glances. I'm talking about long stares -ones that last minutes. This is not the first at this Bank. There have been others. Do they hire creeps? or is it just me? He would do this staring ritual every single time -at least half a dozen times. At first I really didn't get what the fuss was about, although I understood why -but still I don't. What is there to look at! After so many stares, and months it started to really annoy me. It got to the point where I just avoided going to the Bank -it sucked the living guts out of finance. Anyways. On that summer day -actually at the time there was a heat wave -I went in with a friend of mine. Out of all the people -Guess who helped us? Him of course. He starts to converse with my friend -the usual buddy talk. Conversing about the gorgeous weather outside. -and trying to get me to talk to him -which he partially succeeded at doing but not by much. He, then, makes a comment about the humidity (hotness) outside while un-tucking his shirt out of his pants, lifting it up to his chest -you can see his belly button, torso -with his hand going up his abdomen and chest, caressing it and half his boxers in full view. Why show me your body and boxers. Seriously. Is this guy stripping for me -in front of me -in the Bank? . . . The Bank had air-conditioning!!!! Man. It must have been hot in there! Then continues on how he can't wait to get off work and enjoy the weather. So my friend and I finish up business then leave. We walk out laughing our heads off. It was funny. Still makes me laugh. Is this normal? Now, I still do go there at times. The thing is he still stares at me -definitely makes me self cautious about my image -and I don't know what to do about it. Apparently, my friend has befriended him now -so sometimes when I take my friend with me, they mingle together like they're best buds. I just want to tell him to STOP with the staring -he's eating me up with his eyes! Sand&Water
Pyro Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 Sounds like somebody has an admirer. Untucking his shirt and groping his chest is definitelty not professional, especially in a bank.
Erik Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 Amateur player tricks. He's been reading self-help books.
IpAncA Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 Amateur player tricks. He's been reading self-help books. And those books say to do that? I get the whole talking thing but the rest?
Erik Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 You'd be surprised... Most of it is bull****, but sounds nice in theory, especially if you are an insecure nerd looking for magic tricks.
Pyro Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 You'd be surprised... Most of it is bull****, but sounds nice in theory, especially if you are an insecure nerd looking for magic tricks. No self-help book is going to tell you to be a creep in the middle of your own workplace.
Erik Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 I, uhm, acutally read one. Authored by one Somebody Strauss, writer for the Rolling Stone. Chock full of crap, a few good tips and a lot of NLP-magic BS. 400 pages, the good stuff could fill maybe two. But yes, he basically suggests you creep it where ever you go. I suggest you take a course in standard dances and read some chick-lit.
lindya Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 un-tucking his shirt out of his pants, lifting it up to his chest -you can see his belly button, torso -with his hand going up his abdomen and chest, caressing it and half his boxers in full view. .... Is this normal? I'm glad you posted this. Recently several men have performed unsolicited semi-stripteases in my office - pulling off their sweaters as they come in, and baring some pretty hairy bellies at me in the process. I'm not sure whether it's a mating call, they're asserting themselves on my turf or if the office heating needs to be turned down Somebody Strauss... basically suggests you creep it where ever you go. I'm picturing Neil Strauss as a hybrid of the Pied Piper of Hamelin and the childcatcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang....creepily high-stepping around the world (and stopping to bare his belly at random women every so often) followed by a steadily growing army of devotees who earnestly mimic every move. That's tonight's stress dream taken care of.
Erik Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I'm picturing Neil Strauss as a hybrid of the Pied Piper of Hamelin and the childcatcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang....creepily high-stepping around the world (and stopping to bare his belly at random women every so often) followed by a steadily growing army of devotees who earnestly mimic every move. That's tonight's stress dream taken care of. Neil, yes. You read it too?
lindya Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Neil, yes. You read it too? No....did my description of him create that impression? A while back someone from this very site did urge me to read his work, but I haven't got around to it yet.
Erik Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Good for you. Don't. It's a waste of time, the advice in here beats Strauss' hands down.
Pyro Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 You'd be surprised... I have read my fair share (not all of them) of self-help books and I have never read anything close to that. Anyone that actually does follow any advice that is similar to that is an idiot.
Green Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I say staring at a woman like a creep never helps... but is ur friend who he has become buddy buddy with a girl? because maybe this guys onto something... I dont know why this guy has u all messed up... Now I want to stare at you... heck if I see some guy stare at a girl it makes me that much more tempted to stare but I usualy do it out of the corner of my eye so they dont know I'll take a quick good look if I feel like it and smile and say hi if the girl looks back pow
Erik Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I have read my fair share (not all of them) of self-help books and I have never read anything close to that. Anyone that actually does follow any advice that is similar to that is an idiot. Well, not in so many words, but I recognise the style. Subliminal suggestions, non-breaking eye contact, the way he tries to use the guy as a bridge.
lindya Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Good for you. Don't. It's a waste of time, the advice in here beats Strauss' hands down. I've googled a picture of Strauss now. He looks like a shaven-headed, goatee-bearded, metrosexual, modern day disco king. Or, in briefer terms, a bit of a knob.
Author Sand&Water Posted March 20, 2007 Author Posted March 20, 2007 RE: Yes. It is not very professional. I haven't encountered this type of behavior before, Lindya. I'm not surprised, though. Depending on where you live, perhaps showing your belly is a rising new trend. I wonder if he has a girlfriend? The strange, and confusing part is the way he carries himself and talks to various people. It is contradictory. He talks in an intellectual and professional way. I mean, he shows nothing but utter respect towards you -yet somehow he has managed to pull off that stunt. Sometimes when I am there, he will start talking about his education, work, where/what he intends on doing with his skills. Profession related issues. He has even waived fees for my friend and I. I have never ever once asked him any questions. He is willingly offering all this information. What is the intent, really? Peculiar. Just peculiar. I don't see him as a player. He looks like a normal man, with motivations and dreams. I suppose this is just another social mask. The answer is yes. If I recall correctly, he had a set of abs. His body looked great -nothing unattractive about it. Maybe next time I'm there, I'll push his button -see how he reacts. Sand&Water
Erik Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Sometimes when I am there, he will start talking about his education, work, where/what he intends on doing with his skills. Profession related issues. He has even waived fees for my friend and I. I have never ever once asked him any questions. He is willingly offering all this information. What is the intent, really? Sand&Water By talking about his (successful) job, he is displaying breadwinning capability. Basically Strauss is not a player, but an author, he is selling books, not laying women. It's 80% fiction; acreages of verbiage meant to validate his technique. I remember when reading him, I thought that he was selling player courses, the book being PR. I dunno, just a hunch, but maybe somebody has dope on that.
Erik Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 He did have two good points (that I remember) 1) Never hesitate. When you have spotted prey, pounce immediately. Works like a charm. 2) Learn to live with embarrassment.
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