Touche Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 I suspect maybe the OP is Erik is under a different name. The language in the original post is strange. Erik, is this just a test or a game you're playing? Wow, I think you're right Story. I'm not wasting my time on this anymore.
mikicmikido Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Erik, are you saying that what I wrote is crap?
Touche Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Erik, are you saying that what I wrote is crap? Do you really care about what he thinks? You had the best advice of anyone!
mikicmikido Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Thanks. I can't get over how many angry people are offering "help" today. Why would Erik be making up this story as someone else?
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 What is crap is all the sanctimonious claptrap about him sleeping in the bed he made, owning up to his responsibilities and so forth. Yes, this guy made his own bed, but he is a kid. You can't expect a mans responsibility from a boy.
Touche Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Thanks. I can't get over how many angry people are offering "help" today. Why would Erik be making up this story as someone else? It happens all the time on here. Guess he has nothing better to do.
mikicmikido Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 I really really dislike the advice that Erik has given here but it is interesting and true to life. It seems like something that one guy would say to another in the locker room which happens all the time...I think:o . I hope that you don't take that advice. You can do better than that if you had sense enough to even come here knowing that you needed help and that your choices had hurt people.
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Especially when it is obvious he has been taken by an older woman. I'm focusing on the first relationship, of course, but 'kinda agreed' also sounds fishy to me. Nobody wins by forcing a family on this guy, not the kids either.
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 All the high sounding principles of personal responsibilities sounds nice, but nobody should bear this cross, and not a 19 year old kid that made a stupid mistake.
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Micki, you should see the advice women get when they have made themselves pregnant. Did you read Shulky's story?
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Not many words on responsibility for Shulky, I can tell you. It was all sisterly solidarity and the guy was an a*shole and so forth.
mikicmikido Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 No I haven't read shulky's story wherever that is. What is the kinda agreed comment that you made all about?
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 What is the kinda agreed comment that you made all about? Sorry? Agreed comment?
Island Girl Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 There is nothing that you can do about the past and the decisions that led you to this time and place. You have now and forever to do better. It is kind of like that Eminem song Lose Yourself (can not believe I am talking about a rapper! ) where at the start he says If you had one shot to make it and do better would you grab it or let it slip away? This is your shot. You are here looking for help. Your mind is open to suggestion. Take that and run. Go to technical school and get a skill. You have people depending on you now and fulifilling that role could be the most rewarding thing that you ever do. From what I have read, you do not possess the skills or tools to make the right decision. It is kind of like building a house. If your children were sleeping outside and needed shelter you could either throw together a lean to with no tools or let them suffer a bit now for a relatively short time while you acquire the proper tools, skills and materials to build them a kick ass place that they will love. Right now, you/fatherhood/you in a relationship is that house. Think about what you are interested in, what you love doing and then go out and learn a skill that will give you entry level access to that kind of job. You can not build your house on a weak foundation. You must get yourself grounded and healthy first before you can help anybody. You can do it. You either will do it or you won't. You must choose. This is a defining moment in your life. Fantastic advice. As a side note -- Erik you have the WORST relationship advice that I have ever seen. On this or any other thread. You advocate lack of responsibility at every turn. Any woman who states share your responsibility for children you help create is not a liberal feminist.
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Oh, yes, the guy said that they "kinda agreed" on a kid - the second one.
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Erik you have the WORST relationship advice that I have ever seen. On this or any other thread. Thanks. I DO try.
mikicmikido Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Especially when it is obvious he has been taken by an older woman. I'm focusing on the first relationship, of course, but 'kinda agreed' also sounds fishy to me. Nobody wins by forcing a family on this guy, not the kids either. kinda agreed?
Island Girl Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Oh, yes, the guy said that they "kinda agreed" on a kid - the second one. You have sex - you take the risks along with the pleasure. Pregnancy and children is one of the risks.
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Yes, se # 41. The kid is gone! He jumped a plane to Rio, hehe. Go, kid, go!
Touche Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 All the high sounding principles of personal responsibilities sounds nice, but nobody should bear this cross, and not a 19 year old kid that made a stupid mistake. So the innocent child should "bear his/your cross?" And the girl should also "bear his cross?" So everyone involved should bear your cross but you. Wow, nice. You have a LONG, rocky road ahead of you in life if this is your philosophy. And P.S. when a kid does adult things like get married and have children, YES I do expect them to grow up...being young is no excuse. You weren't too young to screw a girl. Island Girl, I agreed with you. I've seen lots of bad and irresponsible advice on here but this one takes the cake. But anyone with half a brain will see it for what it is. No need for anyone to delete his posts.
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Use your own brain, wraith, think about it long and good.
Touche Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Use your own brain, wraith, think about it long and good. Wow...you need some serious help. Anyway, aren't you supposed to be out running away from your problems somewhere? :laugh:
Island Girl Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Wow...you need some serious help. Anyway, aren't you supposed to be out running away from your problems somewhere? :laugh: He's on a laptop connected wireless, that's my guess, so he can dodge his ex-wife and child - and bolt to another location if necessary... They'd make his life into the next Superhero movie except there's nothing heroic about his perspective or actions...
Erik Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 People that post in here as much as you two should not be talking about running away. Haven't you got a life of your own?
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