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I think the word "challenge" is being interpreted differently. But if by "challenge," you mean those ridiculously childish games people play in relationships where they purposely act like "I don't need you...you have to work for me!" "I could leave anytime I want...better do stuff to persuade me to stay!" "I'm gunna play hard to get so you appreciate me more!" Then that's...obnoxious.

 

My point is that I think it's just basic human nature and the laws of attraction. That is, I think when a guy starts to act too much like a wuss, then women, by instinct, lose interest or attraction. This is exactly what I thought when I started reading what Juk wrote.

 

I party agree with Oppath, but I think what underlies what he is saying is that women are attracted to a "dominant" male. Women are attracted to strength and indepenence. It so happens when a guy has his own life and hobbies, it makes him appear independent and hence a desirable male. When a guy gets too involved or too dependent on a woman, the opposite happens: she loses interest because she starts to perceive him as weak.

 

I'm of the opinion right now that the "game" or "dating ritual" or "human nature" or "basic instinct" never goes away in any relationship. Women constantly test their guys to make sure they're the dominant male and the guys continually have to keep a bit unavailable or aloof or however you want to phrase it.

 

AM I WRONG ABOUT ALL THIS OR AM I JUST BECOMING CYNICAL ??

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I party agree with Oppath, but I think what underlies what he is saying is that women are attracted to a "dominant" male. Women are attracted to strength and indepenence. It so happens when a guy has his own life and hobbies, it makes him appear independent and hence a desirable male./quote]

 

Well not this woman!

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