Cee Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) I know I'm going to get a lot of questions so I'll give the most important info without a wall of text. Had a first date with a guy last night I encountered on OKC. We met at a bar near where he lived and where I worked. I arrived and he was at the bar sipping a beer. As soon as I saw him, I thought "What the hell is wrong with him?" He looked drunk or drugged and didn't react when I got there. For the 1st minute, I wanted to cancel the date b/c something was seriously wrong. He was so glassy and looked like a puppet on a string. I stuck it out for bit and turned out he was nice. I decided this guy was a total hippie space cadet type. He wasn't drunk. He seemed odd. He denied liking drugs and said he was afraid of trying them. I ended the date about he mentioned his ex girlfriend and implied he wasn't over her. So, I said I guess that's it and left. He didn't make a fuss, just looked at me in a glassy haze and sat there. He emailed at 3 am saying, "What happened? Was I roofied?" He said the night was a haze and he's sorry if he was obnoxious. He said he remembered liking me, but the night is hazy. Ok, folks. Help me out here. Should I email him to discuss this and tell him my interpretation of the evening? The guy was completely sweet, friendly and not scary in any way. Can someone tell me what someone on GHB acts like? Would somebody voluntarily drop a roofie before a date? What would you do? Edited September 2, 2010 by Cee
tman666 Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 In college, a buddy of mine was at a large house party being a jackass and drinking any random drinking within his grasp. We found him on the floor of our dorm bathroom, unable to move, but pretty much fully cognizant of his surroundings. After taking him to the ER, they said he had GHB in his bloodstream. Don't know if that helps or not. There's a lot of different "date rape" drugs out there. A lot of horrible people too, incidentally. People who do that sort of thing should be shot in the back of the head. No trial.
Jilly Bean Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 What a lameass! He's claiming someone slipped him a rufi? As if. And if they did, no way would he be conscious, nor able to email you and discuss the date at all. He may be sweet, but he's snowing ya, girl.
phineas Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 The key thing is she met him at HER bar & he was served by HER workmates so either someone she works with drugged her date (hey, those kind of silly hijinks happen all the time in movies) or I agree with Jilly Bean he's snowing you & probably needed a fix before your date.
Author Cee Posted September 2, 2010 Author Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) The key thing is she met him at HER bar & he was served by HER workmates so either someone she works with drugged her date (hey, those kind of silly hijinks happen all the time in movies) or I agree with Jilly Bean he's snowing you & probably needed a fix before your date. Actually, we met alone at a bar after work. My office mates weren't involved in any way. This isn't a work romance. I "met" him online via OKC. If he was drugged (voluntarily or involuntarily), it was the night before at a dance club he went to. He mentioned in passing that went dancing the night before, but didn't remember how he got home. He didn't have work the next day so he hung out at home and then walked to the bar for the date. I read that GHB and date rape drugs can be in the system for a long time. It might be a lie, but he wrote that he checked for his money, his keys, and if he was bleeding. It sounded like he was freaked out. In any case, I'm going to watch my drinks when I go out. Edited September 2, 2010 by Cee
bac Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 I know I'm going to get a lot of questions so I'll give the most important info without a wall of text. Had a first date with a guy last night I encountered on OKC. We met at a bar near where he lived and where I worked. I arrived and he was at the bar sipping a beer. As soon as I saw him, I thought "What the hell is wrong with him?" He looked drunk or drugged and didn't react when I got there. For the 1st minute, I wanted to cancel the date b/c something was seriously wrong. He was so glassy and looked like a puppet on a string. I stuck it out for bit and turned out he was nice. I decided this guy was a total hippie space cadet type. He wasn't drunk. He seemed odd. He denied liking drugs and said he was afraid of trying them. I ended the date about he mentioned his ex girlfriend and implied he wasn't over her. So, I said I guess that's it and left. He didn't make a fuss, just looked at me in a glassy haze and sat there. He emailed at 3 am saying, "What happened? Was I roofied?" He said the night was a haze and he's sorry if he was obnoxious. He said he remembered liking me, but the night is hazy. Ok, folks. Help me out here. Should I email him to discuss this and tell him my interpretation of the evening? The guy was completely sweet, friendly and not scary in any way. Can someone tell me what someone on GHB acts like? Would somebody voluntarily drop a roofie before a date? What would you do? If a guy needs psychiatric help because of any psychiatric issure including drug abuse, he should discuss his daily events with a therapist on a daily basic. Rate is typically $100-200 per hr. But, I can understand why you are willing to do the job for free. Probably, because it is almost impossible to find on OKC another guy who is sweet, friendly and not scary:).
Stung Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 What a lameass! He's claiming someone slipped him a rufi? As if. And if they did, no way would he be conscious, nor able to email you and discuss the date at all. He may be sweet, but he's snowing ya, girl. I have no idea if this guy was roofied or not, and would be suspicious of such a claim, suspecting he was either high on something else and trying to cover or mentally unstable, BUT it is possible. Not only is there some degree of genetic variation among individuals in how the liver processes drugs, a grown man with a healthy metabolism will often react differently to GHB or Rohypnol than the average woman, due to greater body mass. Particularly if, as claimed, he had taken it quite some time previously, he could totally be out and about and even feeling dreamlike but relatively okay but appear to be moving in a daze, as if hypnotized, with memory lapses. IDK Cee. It seems odd and unlikely but I might be willing to meet him again in a very public setting, out of curiosity if nothing else, but I would definitely consider an alert flag already raised. Even if he was roofied, it's possible that says something about the people he hangs around with--and even if THAT's not the case, there's the question of whether his ex is still prevalent on his mind or if that was just sideways dreamtalk from the drug.
Author Cee Posted September 2, 2010 Author Posted September 2, 2010 If a guy needs psychiatric help because of any psychiatric issure including drug abuse, he should discuss his daily events with a therapist on a daily basic. Rate is typically $100-200 per hr. But, I can understand why you are willing to do the job for free. Probably, because it is almost impossible to find on OKC another guy who is sweet, friendly and not scary:). I have a graduate degree in psychology so maybe I attract people who need free help. I think I'm at the end of my rope with OK Cupid because I have gone out with about 15 different guys that I liked, but they weren't into me. At least this time I can say, "Hey, we could have worked out, but a bar gnome dropped drugs into his drink."
Rorschach Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 I have a graduate degree in psychology so maybe I attract people who need free help. I think I'm at the end of my rope with OK Cupid because I have gone out with about 15 different guys that I liked, but they weren't into me. At least this time I can say, "Hey, we could have worked out, but a bar gnome dropped drugs into his drink." Smart girl with a degree wants to meet people? Damn how can guys not be into that. Maybe you just ran into 15 different guys who aren't using OKC to find a relationship but just quick hook ups, I always imagined a decent number of online guys would do that (no different than real life haha but they're easier to filter out offline).
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 I was slipped the drug once, and I assure you, there's no way I would have been able to carry on even the weird conversation you did while I was under it's influence, let alone remember any part of it. To give you some perspective, I was once drugged at a bar, and woke up on the floor of my then boyfriend's mother's master bathroom, which I had locked myself in. I didn't remember ANYTHING from the entire night, even before dinner. My BFF and BF had to tell me what I had been doing and how I was behaving... Mortified.
Author Cee Posted September 2, 2010 Author Posted September 2, 2010 I was slipped the drug once, and I assure you, there's no way I would have been able to carry on even the weird conversation you did while I was under it's influence, let alone remember any part of it. To give you some perspective, I was once drugged at a bar, and woke up on the floor of my then boyfriend's mother's master bathroom, which I had locked myself in. I didn't remember ANYTHING from the entire night, even before dinner. My BFF and BF had to tell me what I had been doing and how I was behaving... Mortified. Wow, SG. That's horrifying. I'm so sorry. It's good you had safe company for the entire evening. I'm surprised your boyfriend didn't notice that something was wrong. Maybe he thought you had gotten tipsy at the bar.
bac Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) I have a graduate degree in psychology so maybe I attract people who need free help. I think I'm at the end of my rope with OK Cupid because I have gone out with about 15 different guys that I liked, but they weren't into me. At least this time I can say, "Hey, we could have worked out, but a bar gnome dropped drugs into his drink." Perhaps, you should write down all your reactions and responses on the dates. Then, change them into their direct opposites no matter how ridiculous it might seem to you. Next, do about 20 visualizations of your imaginary dates but using opposite behavior. Finally, go to a real date and use a new behavior. Also, look sexy, every woman as young as you are can do that. Edited September 2, 2010 by bac
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 Wow, SG. That's horrifying. I'm so sorry. It's good you had safe company for the entire evening. I'm surprised your boyfriend didn't notice that something was wrong. Maybe he thought you had gotten tipsy at the bar. Oh, he noticed alright. We got to the club, all stone cold sober, and went straight to the bar (a group of 5-6 of us). As a group we took jagerbomb shots, and each ordered a follow-up drink. The last thing I remember is taking a sip of that follow-up drink (a vodka collins). Apparently, before I'd even finished that drink, I proceded to attempt to remove my clothing on the dancefloor (I took my top off, leaving me in only my bra) and grind on random people. Totally not like me. He obviously knew something was up, and picked me up, put me over his shoulder, and carried me out. When I woke up on the bathroom floor, I didn't know where I was... but I had succeeded in removing ALL of my clothes (they were in the bathroom with me). I got dressed and opened the bathroom door, where I found my BF and my BFF slumped against the wall in the hallway, sleeping and waiting for me. He was convinced I'd been drugged and took me to the ER... he was right. The club was shut down when an investigation revealed it was the BARTENDERS who were drugging girls. And I had a LOT of explaining to do to the 15 people I had called from my cellphone in the bathroom telling them all I was dying... including my mother.
GorillaTheater Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 Perhaps, you should write down all your reactions and responses on the dates. Then, change them into their direct opposites no matter how ridiculous it might seem to you. Next, do about 20 visualizations of your imaginary dates but using opposite behavior. Finally, go to a real date and use a new behavior. Also, look sexy, every woman as young as you are can do that. This is EXACTLY what I was going to post. It's uncanny.
Rorschach Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 Oh, he noticed alright. We got to the club, all stone cold sober, and went straight to the bar (a group of 5-6 of us). As a group we took jagerbomb shots, and each ordered a follow-up drink. The last thing I remember is taking a sip of that follow-up drink (a vodka collins). Apparently, before I'd even finished that drink, I proceded to attempt to remove my clothing on the dancefloor (I took my top off, leaving me in only my bra) and grind on random people. Totally not like me. He obviously knew something was up, and picked me up, put me over his shoulder, and carried me out. When I woke up on the bathroom floor, I didn't know where I was... but I had succeeded in removing ALL of my clothes (they were in the bathroom with me). I got dressed and opened the bathroom door, where I found my BF and my BFF slumped against the wall in the hallway, sleeping and waiting for me. He was convinced I'd been drugged and took me to the ER... he was right. The club was shut down when an investigation revealed it was the BARTENDERS who were drugging girls. And I had a LOT of explaining to do to the 15 people I had called from my cellphone in the bathroom telling them all I was dying... including my mother. ... my decision to not drink much: confirmed
Star Gazer Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 ... my decision to not drink much: confirmed This is also why I STARE at the bartenders when they're making my drink, and never ever ever ever let a guy buy me a drink at a crowded bar (like when the bar is 2-3 deep and he has to push up there).
Rorschach Posted September 2, 2010 Posted September 2, 2010 This is also why I STARE at the bartenders when they're making my drink, and never ever ever ever let a guy buy me a drink at a crowded bar (like when the bar is 2-3 deep and he has to push up there). Good on you, the ability to learn from experiences is a rare trait nowadays. I pretty much only drink in the comfort of my own home or with good friends, I'm not much of a crowd guy they freak me out for just reasons like this, can't tell what people are doing 2 feet from me.
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