How do you know who is in your league?

Leagues are as hard to understand as the number (1-10) system. It's far too subjective to make a blanket statement.

Last week I was approached by an extremely attractive man (honestly, he could have been on a GQ cover) at my gym. I was shocked because a) He was drop dead gorgeous and I'm definitely not, and b) I rarely get approached by men (outside of a club/bar setting) in general. So even if you think you understand your "league," there are exceptions.

My boyfriend is another good example of someone who bends the "league" rule a bit. While I consider him good looking and am extremely attracted to him, he definitely doesn't fit the "ideal" tall, dark handsome prototype for an attractive man. He also doesn't make much money. But he has a history of really rather beautiful girlfriends (not implying myself necessarily, but ones before me) because he is extremely confident, funny, smart, and fun to be around.

So, to summarize, what TigressA said.

How do you know who is in your league?

They have sex with me.

It depends,as a Man every inch your under 5'10 take a point off so if youre 5'9 with a 9 face you're an 8 and so on

It depends,as a Man every inch your under 5'10 take a point off so if youre 5'9 with a 9 face you're an 8 and so on

Are you serious?

I'm 5'6. So that's -4.

I'd say I'm about a 7 based on appearance.

So 7 - 4 = 3

I highly doubt that I'm a 3, but that would answer some questions...

It depends,as a Man every inch your under 5'10 take a point off so if youre 5'9 with a 9 face you're an 8 and so on

And what if you're over 5'10"?

I highly doubt that I'm a 3, but that would answer some questions...

You can't be serious (!). Snap out of it !

If a man takes the "1-10 Scale" to heart, I often question his intelligence.

The whole "Out Of Your League" phenomenon (not that it is factual) only reinforces insecurity in both men and women.

I will not look at a hot woman and think I have no chance. If I get an opening, then I go with it. No backing down from fear. The worst that happens is she rejects me.

 

"leagues" are more for people who want to make excuses not to try. I simply say to try when you get the opportunity and see some interest.

Exactly! If I see a good-looking guy I just think "He's really hot, I'm going to go talk to him." Not "Wah wah, he's out of my league, wah!"

I'm more than used to rejection. I had plenty of crushes in elementary/junior high/high school and they all thought I was "weird". I couldn't care less about an initial rejection from some guy, no matter how hot or interesting or funny I think he is. He's just one guy! There are plenty of them! Just as there are plenty of women.

I find men tend to use the word " league" more than women.

I think this is probably true, but that is probably only because guys do tend to bear the brunt of the actual approaching, asking and possible rejection - so assessing whether he's in someone's "league" is simply a shortcut to determining the likelihood of getting rejected by her.

But the concept aside, as this thread shows, people have pretty different ways of assessing what their "league" actually is.

And what if you're over 5'10"?

Add a point:love:

Add a point:love:

Yao Ming is probably a 20 then.

Yao Ming is probably a 20 then.

Well there are exceptions and too tall

It depends,as a Man every inch your under 5'10 take a point off so if youre 5'9 with a 9 face you're an 8 and so on

Most of you women arent worth the trouble and arent the prizes you think you are..

Its hillarious how women get away with being shallow and mean aholes yet if a guy says something about a womens kneecap she cries and hes a monster..

You can dish it out but cant take it.. F off

Well there are exceptions and too tall

Your method is flawed though. That means a guy my height(6'2") is basically a 10 as long as he's slightly above average looking in the face.

Most of you women arent worth the trouble and arent the prizes you think you are..

 

Its hillarious how women get away with being shallow and mean aholes yet if a guy says something about a womens kneecap she cries and hes a monster..

 

You can dish it out but cant take it.. F off

That's not called for.

Leagues dont exist=gross naivete.. we live in a class based society whether we choose to believe it or not.. And matters of league are predominately based on socio-economic factors..

That being said however,

Screwing someone out of your league=possible

long term dating or marriage=much more difficult..

That's not called for.

WHy? She said how unattratcive Men under a certain height are and she has a history of mean shallow posts..

Its true women get away with being shallow and making comments more then guys..

WHy? She said how unattratcive Men under a certain height are and she has a history of mean shallow posts..

 

Its true women get away with being shallow and making comments more then guys..

Doesn't mean you have to sink to her level. Women are equally as shallow as men, but calling them out on it won't solve anything because they'll be coddled.

Doesn't mean you have to sink to her level. Women are equally as shallow as men, but calling them out on it won't solve anything because they'll be coddled.

Maybe if we stopped coddling them we wouldnt create some of the monsters you see who think theyre s#it dont stink..

I've always wondered if MeganDoll is even female.

I've always wondered if MeganDoll is even female.

Me too.

I'm just going to point out that MD has an interesting and uncommon typing tic of capitalizing the words "Man" and "Men" in "her" posts. Struck me as odd a while back, so I did a quick search to see if other LS posters also have that unusual tic.

Anyway, topic. It does seem like, in practical terms, the "league" thing turns out to be pretty subjective.

I see a lot of thought ending terms being used on LS. Just like the all inclusive thought/potenial ending term "nice guy."

Thinking you or anyone else is in a "League" is a thought ending over simplification.

I see commercials with this guy http://grasshopper.com/blog/founders/files/dos-equis-the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world1.png and I'm supposed to think he's cool because hot girls sit around him acting happy and he likes drinking a certain brand of beer... He's an old man whose ass I could woop in one punch. Seriously how many guys did you see dressed up as this guy for halloween.

There is not such thing as leagues, even poor, dirty looking, a-holes can get Hot women. There is a commercial view of what is attractive like an in shape tall man who dresses well(money) and has a nice place/car/job

But for you to try to place yourself in a league is pointless and to let some one else place you in one is a self fufilling prophecy.

I may not be the most interesting man in the world but I'm the horniest and my beard could kick that guys ass. peace out

I'm not really a believer in leagues, but I do think that who a person is will effect who they can get.

A morbidly obese person who only wants to date fitness models is going to have a hard time at dating.

A Walmart cashier who only wants to date people with high income jobs is probably going to struggle to find that perfect lawyer.

A 45 year old who won't date anyone over 35 is limiting their options.

But at what point do you just settle? Everyone wants a super hot, perfect person. But once age catches up to you, you realize you may never get that person so you settle for average or enough. Do you think an ugly couple thought the other person was actually attractive? Nope. They most likely realized they don't have much of a choice and to take what they can get. I think this applies to most people, aside from the very good looking.

But at what point do you just settle? Everyone wants a super hot, perfect person. But once age catches up to you, you realize you may never get that person so you settle for average or enough. Do you think an ugly couple thought the other person was actually attractive? Nope. They most likely realized they don't have much of a choice and to take what they can get. I think this applies to most people, aside from the very good looking.

To use a very extreme example... I may find "Megan Fox" hot for example but she happens to be married, shes famouse and I really have no way of meeting her... so am I settling when I decide to ask out a girl I meet at the library who I am 100% attracted to? then once i do ask out that girl I met at the library who I actualy had a chance with because all it took to try was walk up to her... and we date for a while.. then I KNOW HER and have HISTORY with her... if I ever had dated Megan Fox I might have found her bitchy or found out she was sterile or something... but library girl I've been dating for a while and everything I know I love.....

I think its crazy to fixate on one specific girl then rank her and then rank the next girl and then some how rank yourself based on your dating capabilities.

Yes some people are smarter, better looking, richer, healthier ect... does that mean we have to come up with ranking systems... and most important of all what advantage is there to limiting yourself. Yes know your limits... but don't create and enforce them.

Yes most short, fat, old, poor, smelly guys won't have much pick of women... but if they want to shoot for the stars thats what they should do. Most likely he will be attracted 100% to women who aint so great themselves... no reason for him to have that dialogue in his head. plus he would have the potential to be in shape, and not poor, maybe get rid of that smell... if he could become rich and famouse dating would be easy.

The thing is in sports you have leagues because you compete against another team or person. When you go after a woman you arn't competing against another guy... you are competing against yourself and the girl is either going to accept or reject you. Even if the king of england is going after your woman she can still accept or reject him. (yes she may use other men in the world as a reference but you shouldn't)

I don't believe in leagues at all. I've had some pretty attractive girls want to date me. I don't claim to be the best looking guy either. But I know more then just one guy who really isn't the best looking dude, get an amazingly beautiful girlfriend.

My sister recently set up a guy i went to high school with, with her cousin. Her cousin is very very attractive. Him, well not so much. Pretty fat, dead-end job. Not going to college. Down-right hick.

But for some reason she likes him, and they click. I was really surprised because I always assumed she would date a pretty boy.

I think its all a mindset. Set your standards and don't settle for less.(This is exactly what my friend did. He was always after the thiner girls, even though he wasn't in shape and whatnot) If you do you most likely won't be happy. I'm not saying go for the gold. But what you know you want.

If leagues exist, then I guess my standards are to high. Sorry to say, I don't settle for less. It's doubtful you'll fine someone to be EXACTLY what you'd like though. You just find what out-weighs the good and the not so good.