Do you believe in dating karma?

I know a girl who used to meddle in peoples relationships.

For example: she used to make up lies that someone's partner was cheating on them in order to cause drama. (usually in hopes to steal the men away. )

Well, recently she has had this situation happen to her! Numerous women informed her that her long term boyfriend had been cheating on her.

LS, do you believe in dating karma? Normal karma?

Do you have any examples that you've witnessed?

What goes around comes around. That's not limited to dating.

No. I don't believe in anything. Good people get ****ed with all the time, sooner or later they're gonna get something good, it's bound to happen. Bad people get ****ed with all the time, sooner or later they're gonna get something good too.

Actions have consequences and influence people, but if those influences never "reach" future partners (say I'm in Australia being a terrible boyfriend to a ton of women, then move to Europe, I'll start with a clean sheet there) there's no way they influence future dating.

What goes around comes around. That's not limited to dating.

Of course not. But I thought it would be fun to share some dating karma stories.

I don't believe in karma of any kind, let alone specifics like dating karma.

It says nothing about karma in the bible. Furthermore, karma is fair. The world was not meant to be, nor is it a fair place, so karma has no place in it.

I don't believe in karma of any kind, let alone specifics like dating karma.

It says nothing about karma in the bible. Furthermore, karma is fair. The world was not meant to be, nor is it a fair place, so karma has no place in it.

GALATIANS 6:7 (KJV)

7: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

I beg to differ.

eta. Regarding "dating karma" stories, I was the victim of such karma. But I'm too embarrassed to tell the story, so I guess my contribution is a major fail.

I think I've had more experiences with women doing cruel things to me than I have being cruel to them. Not that I've never been a jerk, but I'm pretty sure I've gotten the splintered end of the stick more than my share of times. In the end, I could say it was probably for the best. Maybe it was karma's way of telling me I should take control of my romantic life instead of waiting for it to come to me.

I think karma as far as coming from some magic source is bs. But karma does exist in the real world. You get back what you put out. If your a nasty person you will attract nasty people. If you do nasty things it will come back full circle on you. Like a guy who plays a bunch of girls. He eventually ends up with no girls or he ends up getting played. Someone who goes around starting fights they eventually end up starting a fight with the wrong person and end up layed out covered in there own blood. So yea i think whatever you do in the world will always come back to you.

Not really sure. My ex treated me like garbage (his fault at first and then my fault because I allowed him to treat me like crap for over a year). Yet everyone on the planet thought he was the "nicest guy!" He's now on his way to becoming a doctor where everyone swoons all over him thinking he's a perfect man. He'll be celebrated as the nice guy by many and now as a wonderful doctor - a "catch" by most people's standards and it kind of turns my stomach. So karma doesnt seem to be biting him on the butt!

However - enduring all the crap I went though I learned so much about boundaries and my worth as a person. I'm now in a wonderful relationship so I'm still 50-50 on the karma thing. who knows.

I don't believe in karma of any kind, let alone specifics like dating karma.

 

It says nothing about karma in the bible. Furthermore, karma is fair. The world was not meant to be, nor is it a fair place, so karma has no place in it.

First of all it doesn't say anything about pizza in the bible either. Does that mean it doesn't exist? Second of all as someone has already said you reap what you sow.

You know, I do take some umbrage to this modern usage of the word karma. I guess people have been re-writing the word for awhile now, but the change of the word karma from something you collect and create through your whole life, only to be relevant in where your soul energies go in the next life and what lessons and phases wait for you next, into something semi-immediate that bounces back to you, more akin to the Wiccan Law of 3 type stuff . . . well, I'm not a fan. FTR.

I do believe in karma in a traditional sense (I'm Buddhist) but in the sense you mean it---No. I don't believe what comes around goes around in some kind of fair action-and-reaction way and certainly not in some perfect mirror.

I do believe if you put certain actions into the world, people will feel it's fair to treat you similarly to how you treat others. I'm much more likely to be mean or hurtful to people I've seen be mean or hurtful than people who are kind and lovely. Aren't you?

I also do believe that people who've been mean and hurtful are generally prone to self-sabotage and often bring themselves misery. In fact, most people who inflict misery on others are much worse in the way they treat themselves.

Here's a dating karma story.

At age 23, I took a risk and went after and dated a 38 year old man. I fell head over heels in love with him. I didn't care about the age difference and saw him for the great man he was. We had a good two year relationship.

At age 41, I accepted a date from a 23 year old man. We've been together for 3 months and recently exchanged "I love you's." He treats me unbelievably well and doesn't care one iota about my age. I'm head over heels in love with him.

I suppose being open minded about age gap dating paid off for me. Or maybe I got lucky. Twice.

Well, my ex-boyfriend cheated on me with his ex-girlfriend, apparently throughout our whole relationship (though, I don't know how true that was to be honest). Of course I told the guy that he was a piece of **** and to never talk to me again. Then, after that, I felt it necessary to say something to his ex. I wrote her a long message trying as much as possible to omit any name-calling, but still cut her deep simply be reiterating how pathetic she made herself look by being a doormat to the guy mentioned above. The last thing I said was, "Just be careful because karma's a huge bi***".

Sure enough, a few months later, he slept with another ex from a few years ago and they broke up. I've made amends with this girl since because we were both just dumb girls being led on by a complete tool, though I still don't really LIKE her. Anyway... some may call that karma, but I just believe that this guy was a complete and total assbag who has problems keeping it in his pants. If it was real karma, I would have rather seen the ex cheat on him, personally.....

GALATIANS 6:7 (KJV)

7: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

 

I beg to differ.

 

eta. Regarding "dating karma" stories, I was the victim of such karma. But I'm too embarrassed to tell the story, so I guess my contribution is a major fail.

Again, it says nothing of karma. Do not confuse the judgement God will eventually bring upon people for their sins in this life (after they have already died) with actuating, coincidental, revolving 'justice'. It's not the same thing.

To make a direct connection between the two would be to not only misconstrue scripture, but also the very definition of karma. Also, to add, karma is a tenant of Buddhism.

Not Christianity.

First of all it doesn't say anything about pizza in the bible either. Does that mean it doesn't exist? Second of all as someone has already said you reap what you sow.

Lol, neither does it mention cars, fried chicken, or strip clubs - because it was never intended to. You are comparing a food with a tenant of a false faith. There will always be millions of things that exist today that are not spoken of in the bible, but the bible teaches us everything we need to know about faith and belief in God (and false Gods such as Buddha). The bible was never intended to teach us about pizza, cars, fried chicken or strip clubs...

So when you make statements like that wearing your Captain Obvious outfit you're only making yourself look silly.

What comes around, goes around. Seen it happen enough times whether dating or otherwise, to believe there's something to the old maxim!

I dated this one man, D, and we were together for about 2 years. He loved, admired, and respected me. Treated me like a queen. I wasn't mature enough to value those things and ran off to be with another man, F. I ended up actually leaving where his family was involved and he was sad in front of them. I felt sorry but in a removed, insincere, I-know-I-should-be-sorry sort of way.

Fast forward 4 years later with F and I have my family coming to visit and celebrate. He cheats on me, crushes me in front of my family. Gives me the most insincere horse sh*t apology ive ever gotten in my life and it pretty much downward spirals from there. Me being a cheater in the past gave me insight to how little he thought of me, the relationship, and how there was no way he loved me. So ya, yay karma! I'd like to think im using the chance to right the wrongs though.

I dated this one man, D, and we were together for about 2 years. He loved, admired, and respected me. Treated me like a queen. I wasn't mature enough to value those things and ran off to be with another man, F. I ended up actually leaving where his family was involved and he was sad in front of them. I felt sorry but in a removed, insincere, I-know-I-should-be-sorry sort of way.

 

Fast forward 4 years later with F and I have my family coming to visit and celebrate. He cheats on me, crushes me in front of my family. Gives me the most insincere horse sh*t apology ive ever gotten in my life and it pretty much downward spirals from there. Me being a cheater in the past gave me insight to how little he thought of me, the relationship, and how there was no way he loved me. So ya, yay karma! I'd like to think im using the chance to right the wrongs though.

That takes a lot to admit these things. Good for you, shows you've grown some from it.

No. There is no karma.

If "she got what she deserves", then what happened to all the relationships that she meddled with? Do all those women deserve it too? I bet that's the not the case. I bet some of them are good people, yet they got slapped with the same drama.

It's not karma, it's the social circle you choose to be in. Whether you are a good or bad person, hang out in a bad social circle, bad things will eventually happen to you. Nothing to do with karma.

In fact, if she broke up say 10 relationships, and finally have one of her own broken, 10:1 ratio, I'd hardly consider that justice served.

So nope, no karma.

Negativity breeds negativity.

Yes I cheated on gf once and next relationship I got cheated on. But then I was influenced to cheat by the fact that almost every gf I had before that cheated. I'm older, (hopefully) wiser, and would never do such a thing again. But then I still get cheated on, and the only karma my gf's get is when I dump them and they are miserable about losing me. But he I still lost them too...

I do believe the general energy you put out... is the energy you'll get back. But not in a tit-for-tat way.

I'm a LOA'er though (law of attraction - you can google it). I've had enough experiences to verify for myself personally... that that stuff is real.

Do you believe in magic? Yeah. Believe in the magic in a young girl's soul.

You know, I do take some umbrage to this modern usage of the word karma. I guess people have been re-writing the word for awhile now, but the change of the word karma from something you collect and create through your whole life, only to be relevant in where your soul energies go in the next life and what lessons and phases wait for you next, into something semi-immediate that bounces back to you, more akin to the Wiccan Law of 3 type stuff . . . well, I'm not a fan. FTR.

 

I do believe in karma in a traditional sense (I'm Buddhist) but in the sense you mean it---No. I don't believe what comes around goes around in some kind of fair action-and-reaction way and certainly not in some perfect mirror.

 

I do believe if you put certain actions into the world, people will feel it's fair to treat you similarly to how you treat others. I'm much more likely to be mean or hurtful to people I've seen be mean or hurtful than people who are kind and lovely. Aren't you?

 

I also do believe that people who've been mean and hurtful are generally prone to self-sabotage and often bring themselves misery. In fact, most people who inflict misery on others are much worse in the way they treat themselves.

I too am Buddhist.

And yes, zengirl, people in general, haven't a single clue what they're talking about when the word 'karma' is hurled about.

Karma (or kamma, in Pali) simply means Volitional action.

That is, any action which is pre-meditated and deliberate.

It can be carried out in 3 ways;

Through what we think, through what we say, and through what we do.

Kamma has consequences (Vipaka).

"What goes around comes around" is both over-simplistic and inaccurate.

And what people forget, is that we all generate Kamma-Vipaka. Whether you believe in it or not, is immaterial.

Kamma is a natural process happening all the time, to everyone.

It's not judgemental, it doesn't evaluate, it's not "a force to be reckoned with", it's not revenge, it's not pay-back.

Kamma Just Is.

You act, and you get a consequence.

Be it positive, negative or neutral.

Be it immediate or "down the line".

The trick it to first and foremost,m watch the thinking.

That's where it all begins.

With what you think.

Amend the thought to become positive or neutral, and the rest follows accordingly.

If you develop a thought into formulating words, or enacting deeds, then you build the consequences.

I once contributed in exactly this vein in another thread, and somebody came back with a comment along the lines of:

"Oh right, TM, well we get what you as a Buddhist are defining as Karma, but we don't mean that kind, the kind we mean is payback, kick in the pants stuff".

"Fine," I replied.

"But then, it's not karma.

So either use the term accurately, or don't bother, because you merely perpetuate ignorance, which makes you misunderstood and inaccurate. It also belittles the Dhamma (teachings of the Buddha) which is mildly disrespectful, and makes light of something Buddhists take very seriously."

Just my 2 cents.....

LS, do you believe in dating karma? Normal karma?

I think it's more likely to be co-incidence than karma. People see patterns in random noise all the time, just like those clouds that look like animals etc.

(sorry, inner scientist is showing through this morning)

No. There is no karma.

 

 

It's not karma, it's the social circle you choose to be in. Whether you are a good or bad person, hang out in a bad social circle, bad things will eventually happen to you. Nothing to do with karma.

 

I definitely think the social circle thing is an issue.

But also bad things happen to good people, in fact sometimes worse things happen to good people because "bad" people don't give a **** either way. Its just part of life. This kind of question brings out my morbid side:(.

But there is some aspect of karma that still holds true I think, though I can't explain it.