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I am so sick of hearing all these stupid comments about "Why do women do this?" "Why are men so mean"? Blah blah blah. People are people. One gender is not "meaner" than the other. If someone screwed you over than it just means they were a jerk to you, not that they are the worst human being on earth or they're whole gender has no redeeming quality. I think there's something to be said for moving on without taking your bitterness and applying it all your potential future prospects.

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a- f*cking-men to that :D

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It can get frustrating, but I don't think any discussion of relationship issues can go on for long without gender stereotypes being invoked. Not on LS, and not anywhere else. It kind of goes with the territory.

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That's true. Its almost kind of funny though, cause each side is certain that the other is totally to blame. So rediculous

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a- f*cking-men to that :D

 

I think, given the subject matter, you should change that to "a-f*cking-people to that"....

 

(I was gong to say 'a-f*cking-women...but somebody would have asked who 'a' was, and why he was getting all the luck.....! :D)

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Absolutley x 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 !!!!!

 

My family members are men, my husbands and lovers have been men, some of my closest friends are men. I SO don't judge a persons character by their chromosones, and I highly resent it when it is done to me. Half the time I feel like a black person on a KKK forum !

 

You will notice though that married men, men with good relationships, healthy lives are seldom the ones doing this, so.....doesn't take a genius.....

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No War But The Gender War!

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It kind of goes with the territory.

I agree. It's sad and unfortunate but women have been programmed to act 'this' way and men have been programmed to act 'that' way. The influences are cultural, corporate and/or religious -- there's not just one institution leading the charge.

 

The challenge that we are ALL facing, men and women alike, is that women have been successfully "crossing over" into traditionally male "arenas" -- but men are lagging a bit, in crossing over into traditionally female "territory", being the emotions-relational-nurturing side of things.

 

Generally, more women these days have the skills to take care of their own material-financial needs, and also the emotional-spiritual needs of all concerned...but, generally, many men these days have not yet learned how to effectively do their "fair share" of the emotional-spiritual side of self or relationships.

 

They don't know how because they were never taught it; it wasn't something that their fathers and grandfathers needed to know. And the challenge is that they have been a bit slow in realizing that they need to learn it now because...times, they are a'changing. Actually, have already a'changed.

 

We're just waiting for our wonderful and amazing counterparts to catch up. Please. :)

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That's true. Its almost kind of funny though, cause each side is certain that the other is totally to blame. So rediculous

 

It would be interesting if the other person could respond and we could hear both sides. I find so many of the threads are one person complaining about their SO or their ex and all/most/many (take your pick) of their gender jump in about what a jerk/moron their SO is. Just once I'd like to hear both sides.

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but, generally, many men these days have not yet learned how to effectively do their "fair share" of the emotional-spiritual side of self or relationships.

When I meet a woman who responds positively and with attraction to this, presently, outlier male perspective of being emotionally available and expressive, I will trumpet it here first. It will indeed be a happy day.

 

Topically, the 'picking' doesn't bother me, as long as it remains topical. I really do think women have better and more orgasms with wealthy men ;)

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When I meet a woman who responds positively and with attraction to this, presently, outlier male perspective of being emotionally available and expressive

For starters, sometimes some people call them "walkaway wives" (or girlfriends, or fiancees.)

What is it you think women, in such droves, are "walking away" from?

 

There is research being done. You may find the last couple of chapters in 'Drama Kings: The Men Who Drive Strong Women Crazy' (Dalma Heyn), absolutely fascinating...and something to trumpet ;)

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Let me see if I can find an on-topic thread to discuss that. I wouldn't want this thread to degenerate into off-topic picking on one of the genders ;)

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I like the gender war. The way I see things, men and women are almost exactly the same. But our cultures have raised us to think about things completely differently. I know this because throughout history and across the globe, the nature of genders has changed drastically. I enjoy pointing out these different perspectives. I think a certain gender is unnaturally too sensitive in my culture today.

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It can get frustrating, but I don't think any discussion of relationship issues can go on for long without gender stereotypes being invoked. Not on LS, and not anywhere else. It kind of goes with the territory.

 

Not on a site for relationships anyway.....

 

But on a different site I visit for straight up political and social debate, the conversations have little room for personal orientation or gender to come into play. My username is not an indicator either.

 

I've gotten many personal message from folks who obviously think I'm male. The views I've expressed here that have also been subjects on the other site, are accepted and respected - on here, I get men telling me I'm misogynistic only because they KNOW I'm female.

 

Pretty funny I think.

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I guess I've never noticed it, or just don't read the threads. Alot of jilted people on here, so I'm sure some of that bitterness towards the opposite sex can filter into a thread here and there. No big deal.

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Hee hee! :lmao::lmao::lmao:

 

My touchsmart won't recognize the word misandrist and keeps putting it in as misogynistic!

I had to pull the keyboard out just to spell it right!

 

How sexist of it. :rolleyes:

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What kills me is that in most relationships, the majority of the relationship is positive where the individuals are relatively happy within them. What happens on LS is that when those relationships are severed, people rewrite the relationships into "the sky is falling", "they're a horrific person", "women suck" or "men suck". Now how unrealistic is that?

 

While I don't expect people to want to hug their exes, since they've experienced pain, you'd think they would target that negativity to the one or two individuals who've given them pain, as well as trying to balance out that it wasn't all horrible. Instead, people do the "women suck", "men suck" thing which is such a distortion of reality.

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Yea, while they don't want to place the blame where it really belongs cause they looooove them still... so people in general suck. Actually I don't have a problem with that. Its kind of understandable. It doesn't make sense, but I can understand it. I just don't like making these grandiose statements about guys or girls (of course when they trash girls it irks me a little more), as if the whole damn gender is to blame. LOL

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I wouldn't want this thread to degenerate into off-topic picking on one of the genders ;)

As I understand the thread topic, discussions around "picking on one of the genders" would actually be ON topic. I have no interest or energy to "pick on" either women or men...but, *if* my understanding of the intent of this thread is accurate, you're free to carry on if it is your desire. :)

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I'm not surprised by it because a lot of jaded dumpers and dumpees are here, so inevitably they get upset with the opposite sex. I say plenty of negative things about women in real life, and actually got my class involved in a shouting match over it. It was quite fun.

 

Just go up to a mixed gender group, say "Women should stay in the kitchen because they can't drive" and watch the nuclear war develop. It works everytime.

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I'm not surprised by it because a lot of jaded dumpers and dumpees are here, so inevitably they get upset with the opposite sex. I say plenty of negative things about women in real life, and actually got my class involved in a shouting match over it. It was quite fun.

 

Just go up to a mixed gender group, say "Women should stay in the kitchen because they can't drive" and watch the nuclear war develop. It works everytime.

Jaded dumpers and dumpees should look to their personal people pickers or look within themselves, rather than using broad brush strokes to generalize an entire gender.

 

But I do agree that much of it is due to trolls and regulars utilizing trolling methods to attention whore.

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Jaded dumpers and dumpees should look to their personal people pickers or look within themselves, rather than using broad brush strokes to generalize an entire gender.

 

Yes, this is the prescription the doctor ordered, IMO. You said that awhile back and it makes perfect sense.

 

As I understand the thread topic, discussions around "picking on one of the genders" would actually be ON topic. I have no interest or energy to "pick on" either women or men...but, *if* my understanding of the intent of this thread is accurate, you're free to carry on if it is your desire. :)

Getting sick (or not) of picking on the respective genders is the topic, not the particulars of the picking or the getting sick. Wanna play some more?

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I don't think that you can have a relationship board that deals with relationship drama without it going into men vs women territory. Men and women have such vastly different experiences and such vastly different perspectives that there are bound to be clashes.

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I think the ones who "pick on" the other gender on here the most are the ones who have no one to listen to them IRL due to their constant nagging on the subject, which scares them away.

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I do agree with the OP that males and females are equally capable of both the best and the worst words and actions -- and it would be terrific if we all could have conversations around that instead of the tendency to attribute specific behaviour to specific genders...as if the other is not entirely capable of the exact same.

 

As sally4sara's experience indicates, we sometimes do get treated differently based solely on whether we are male or female. Quite sad for both genders.

 

Getting sick (or not) of picking on the respective genders is the topic, not the particulars of the picking or the getting sick.

Ah...then my understanding of the thread topic is the same as yours -- "discussions around", not particulars. I guess we've both been either on topic, or off.

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