LakesideDream Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 It's kinda interesting that the two posters here who have actually either killed people or pursued the killing of people professionally (as military personnel) advocate non-violence. Very telling. It's one thing to make noises about violence and death and another to actually experience it; smell it; taste it. I hope I never do until it comes time to die naturally. Carhill, there is a non subtile difference between violence as a profession and violence as a solution to personal problems. As a civilian I was forced to use potentially fatal action once, in self defense. While it didn't involve a fatal outcome, it wasn't for lack of effort on my part. That incident was more troubling that taking or causing the taking of hundreds of lives in combat. I have worked to avoid being in situations where violence occurs. So far, so good. As time marches on ti becomes increasingly more unlikely that those situations will occur. I certainly won't be instigating any. As I get older all kinds of combat is losing it's value. Physical, emotional, all of it. I'm the better for it too.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 nah, never once crossed my mind. only time I'd want to rip him to shreds is if he hurt my kids. besides, I don't need to do anything to him. getting my xW is punishment enough. He is finding this out, and in turn she is finding out he is her punishment too. best part is, I didn't have to do a thing what does fighting with you have to do with fighting for his marriage? seems that you get off on this. I think you have a perception of power over a BH and you like it. Dex... you may not care for me... but I think you're all right. I liked the first half or your post anyway...
stillafool Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 exhibit A. another whining loser. What are you doing on the OM/OW board anyway? Some of you whining BS need to be kicked. A. I have nothing to whine about. B. Look at my numbers, I can be on any board I want to. C. I am not a BS. Speaking of whiners, why are you whining that your MW's H doesn't give a f--k about what you and his ex skank does. You should be happy he is letting the two of you go about your business instead of wondering why he doesn't want to fight you. She's all yours now. Move on.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 A. I have nothing to whine about. B. Look at my numbers, I can be on any board I want to. C. I am not a BS. Speaking of whiners, why are you whining that your MW's H doesn't give a f--k about what you and his ex skank does. You should be happy he is letting the two of you go about your business instead of wondering why he doesn't want to fight you. She's all yours now. Move on. I don't want to fight anybody!!! ARRRGGGGGHHHH!! I was just trying to be prepared for any situation.
Dexter Morgan Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 One more thing... if his main concern was his wife... he would have drug her out of there. maybe he realized she isn't worth a squirt of piss and that you could have her. is he divorcing her? they still living together? whats the story. I wouldn't have drug her out of there. Whats the point? dragging her out of there wasn't going to make her have a change of heart or something?
LakesideDream Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I don't want to fight anybody!!! ARRRGGGGGHHHH!! I was just trying to be prepared for any situation. The preparation that's important is mental. That's what's so good about LS, it helps straighten things out in your head. You are on the right track. You don't sound like the naysayers are having an effect on you. Good Luck.
Owl Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 SD, so you think that it would have been the best thing for her H to do if he'd have jumped you at that bar? Why? What would it have accomplished? What would it have done to improve his situation? Would it have made you leave his wife alone if he'd have beaten you? (I doubt it) What it would have done was to make him look like an idiot. It would have created a WORSE situation for him. If you (or she) were smart, you'd have used the opportunity to call the police, and work out an RO against him. Press charges on him for assault and battery. I don't get this thread at all. You posted this thread kind of "digging" at BH's who 'threaten' the OM. You point out the time you 'jumped' the OM in your situation, and you try to make it appear that H's reasons for not doing so in this case were either selfish or cowardly. Yet the course of action you say he should have taken could have just as easily been belittled by you as well, and would have likely made the situation WORSE for him than what he did. There is nothing he could have done in this situation that would have made him "look good" in your eyes. Not that looking good in your eyes would have been a priority for him in any case. Think about it...really...he did the right thing. As I said...what good would have come from jumping on you, regardless of the outcome of that fight? I doubt you would have ended the affair. But it WOULD have driven his wife further away from him, and it would have given the both of you lots of ammunition to use against him. Why do you think less of him for being smarter than that?
Owl Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 It's kinda interesting that the two posters here who have actually either killed people or pursued the killing of people professionally (as military personnel) advocate non-violence. Very telling. It's one thing to make noises about violence and death and another to actually experience it; smell it; taste it. I hope I never do until it comes time to die naturally. Don't think I was being any kind of saint when I opted against it in my case, Carhill. I'll freely admit...it was an option I cold-bloodedly considered. It just didn't seem to be the best option available at the time. Turned out good for me in the long run too. I'm sure that OM in my case may well have thought of me just as SD thinks of BH in his case...but as I said to SD, OM's opinion wasn't high on my priority list at the time.
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I could be wrong, lord knows it's happened before. I think you wanted more of a fight so you could have the feeling that you "won" something. IMO, the fact that this MM didn't act in a way that would give you an opportunity to be a "man" and win just pisses you off. Would you feel better if she was harder to get? Did you want him to fight you for her so that you could feel like she is worth more than she is? Are you disappointed because you didn't get to feel muy macho?
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I would rather not have anything to do with him... but he will be around because of the kids... so I have to get a read on him to a certain extent. I'm not forcing any contact or trying to provoke him over and beyond stealing his wife... and just to be clear... she pursued me as much or more than I pursued her... Stealing his wife? Sounds like he gave her to you. I call that moving on to a better life. Kind of like when a car breaks down and you don't want to put any more money into fixing it, so you just give it up. I would hardly say that the car was stolen. As far as the both of you pursuing each other. Sounds like a match made in heaven. You should be focusing on your relationship with her and not the BS. JMO.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 SD, so you think that it would have been the best thing for her H to do if he'd have jumped you at that bar? Why? Never said that. I'm not sure where you are getting that. I think I've maintained all along that I didn't know what to expect from him... I was suprised by his complete lack of action.
pkn06002 Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I'm sorry, but I get a chuckle out of you tough martial arts types. BFD, can you stare down a bullet? Here is the best part about us martial arts types. 1) We always have my martial arts with me, do you always carry a gun? 2) We know how to use your skills and are willing to use them, are you willing to shoot someone? 3) Most importantly are you willing to use said gun and lose your freedom and go to jail? See this is why just going out and fighting someone you don't know is stupid. You don't know what type of person (mental & skill wise) that you are dealing with.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 Stealing his wife? Sounds like he gave her to you. I call that moving on to a better life. Kind of like when a car breaks down and you don't want to put any more money into fixing it, so you just give it up. I would hardly say that the car was stolen. As far as the both of you pursuing each other. Sounds like a match made in heaven. You should be focusing on your relationship with her and not the BS. JMO. Hereisnow... reading comprehension is not your Forté? Let me quote myself... "but he will be around because of the kids... so I have to get a read on him to a certain extent." Yes, my focus is on our relationship and how we will handle him in the future.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 Here is the best part about us martial arts types. 1) We always have my martial arts with me, do you always carry a gun? 2) We know how to use your skills and are willing to use them, are you willing to shoot someone? 3) Most importantly are you willing to use said gun and lose your freedom and go to jail? See this is why just going out and fighting someone you don't know is stupid. You don't know what type of person (mental & skill wise) that you are dealing with. Well, if you kill someone with your barehands... you're going to jail just as quickly if you shoot someone... so, I don't see your point. Still, you put too much faith in your martial arts... I've seen a multitude of martial arts guys run their mouths off... it's laughable.
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Here is the best part about us martial arts types. 1) We always have my martial arts with me, do you always carry a gun? 2) We know how to use your skills and are willing to use them, are you willing to shoot someone? 3) Most importantly are you willing to use said gun and lose your freedom and go to jail? See this is why just going out and fighting someone you don't know is stupid. You don't know what type of person (mental & skill wise) that you are dealing with. I think, especially for a woman, martial arts is great. I have taken classes since I was a teenager. I have even taught some classes for kids. It's a great work out. It teaches discipline. Most important it gives me a chance to protect myself if someone should try to physically harm me. I would never use it unless I was in danger of being physically harmed. If I was just mad, my first reaction would be to walk away. So, I think this MM did the right thing. It's also what I have always be taught. Physical force is the last option. Any good martial arts teacher should teach his or her students that.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 Did it ever occur to you that your MW has been feeding you a line of BS and that SHE is the problem in their marriage? Maybe he's just glad to have someone take her off his hands. Wouldn't you like that to be true!
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 I could be wrong, lord knows it's happened before. I think you wanted more of a fight so you could have the feeling that you "won" something. IMO, the fact that this MM didn't act in a way that would give you an opportunity to be a "man" and win just pisses you off. Would you feel better if she was harder to get? Did you want him to fight you for her so that you could feel like she is worth more than she is? Are you disappointed because you didn't get to feel muy macho? Well if that's what I wanted, I could have just smacked him up beside the head with the pool cue I was holding.... what's your point again?
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Hereisnow... reading comprehension is not your Forté? Let me quote myself... "but he will be around because of the kids... so I have to get a read on him to a certain extent." Yes, my focus is on our relationship and how we will handle him in the future. Sure I read that. His kids are not your responsibility. That is between him and his wife. If he isn't focusing on you, then you have nothing to worry abut. Now, you can insult me all you like, but I still don't understand why you care so much about the BS and his actions. It's not like you are in any danger. Quite the opposite.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 WTF makes you think I could care one bit? And, just for the record, not a BS here. I just find it amusing how people who are hanging out with a cheater think that every word out of their deceitful mouths is the truth. You're the one who brought it up, honey... You must care.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 Sure I read that. His kids are not your responsibility. That is between him and his wife. If he isn't focusing on you, then you have nothing to worry abut. Now, you can insult me all you like, but I still don't understand why you care so much about the BS and his actions. It's not like you are in any danger. Quite the opposite. If they are living in my house... yes I do have a certain responsibility. In no way though am I going to try to intervene in what their biological parents decide for them. I'm sure I will have some input with their mother though... but she has the final call, of course.
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Well if that's what I wanted, I could have just smacked him up beside the head with the pool cue I was holding.... what's your point again? My point is: I think you are disappointed that MM wasn't willing to fight for his wife. JMO, take it or leave it. Please go ahead continue to insult me, It's very fitting to you.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 My point is: I think you are disappointed that MM wasn't willing to fight for his wife. JMO, take it or leave it. Please go ahead continue to insult me, It's very fitting to you. You seem to be very easily insulted.... and besides, you started in on me first. Don't be trying to turn this around.
herenow Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 If they are living in my house... yes I do have a certain responsibility. In no way though am I going to try to intervene in what their biological parents decide for them. I'm sure I will have some input with their mother though... but she has the final call, of course. Is MM going to be living with you as well? If not, then why do you care? They are his kids and you really have no say in how he deals with them.
pkn06002 Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Well, if you kill someone with your barehands... you're going to jail just as quickly if you shoot someone... so, I don't see your point. Still, you put too much faith in your martial arts... I've seen a multitude of martial arts guys run their mouths off... it's laughable. kill??? Oh you only go that far when you know the law allows for that possibility. I personally know how much force you can apply in a given situation and under what circumstances and not get in trouble. The martial arts guys you see running their mouths are those that don't know anything. The really dangerous ones are the ones that don't say anything. The dangerous ones are the ones that react in a cold efficient manor. If Owl has faith in his martial arts that is confidence in what he knows. spiraling downward I will say it does sound like you wanted the fight, what so you can show how much of a man you are? I know you have said a few times you did not want a fight but the way you are posting here that is not the impression i get.
Author spiraling downward Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 Is MM going to be living with you as well? If not, then why do you care? They are his kids and you really have no say in how he deals with them. I'm completely dumbfounded.... did you read what I just said or are you just preaching to me?
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