RoseWater Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 Does such a thing really exist? https://liveandlearnkid.wordpress.com/2014/05/17/its-only-creepy-if-youre-of-low-value/
thecrucible Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 I skimmed the website and I'm not a fan of this manosphere PUA stuff. No I've never thought of a guy as creepy for approaching me because he isn't attractive. I've very rarely met a guy I've considered creepy and it has nothing to with his social status. I don't actively compare men according to their social status either. Either I like the guy or I don't. 1
Author RoseWater Posted October 11, 2015 Author Posted October 11, 2015 I had thought Low Value Man meant a man who is non-assertive, kind of wimpy and possibly short or with low self esteem as well. But I need to read up on it to understand the concept. I've only just come across this term. 1
seekingluck Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 A low value man is one who thinks my value is related to how soon he can score sex from me. 2
thecrucible Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Ah I get it. Well using my personal parameters, someone who acts like a complete ass is low status to me, someone who is rude to other people, shallow, overly sexual, superficial, judgmental etc...well all the ones no one can tolerate anyway Ooh one mistake I made when I was younger was not thinking enough along the lines of "Is this someone I would respect as a friend? Would I want my best friend to be with a guy like this?"...No I would be too transfixed by them that I would overlook whether they were morally reputable people. It was because I thought so little of myself. ..which reminds me that I don't think a man being self-effacing makes him low value. A guy who talks himself up is to be avoided.
Gloria25 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Yes, they exist.... They are not necessarily rich, poor, ugly and/or handsome... They are guys who adhere to the saying "water seeks its own level" - however, these guys don't put much value on themselves (while one look at them and you can tell he is handsome, well do, etc - but "he" just doesn't see it) so, they aim low and go for whatever chicks. A lot of them will date any chick who just shows them attention. I know a lot of us go through phases where we are "coming into our own" and realizing our potential, but seems like these guys - no matter how much they got going on for them, just don't see it for whatever reasons (i.e. childhood trauma). Funny how the article lists the Craigslist killer. Dude was attractive, smart, going to become a freakin' doctor, had a beautiful fiance, but did some deviant things that made you scratch your head. Kanye West is a good example of a "Low Value Man". I mean, he marries Kim Kardashian - a piece of garbage who has an overinflated butt, most of her is plastic surgery, she's an idiot with no values, morals etc and got her "fame" by leaking a sex tape. Kanye, however, feels that this piece of trash should be the mother of his children. You pump and dump women like Kim, you don't give them children. Before Kim was Amber Rose. So, there you go...Low value guy (sorry, can't fathom considering him a "man"). 1
chumble Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I was raised lower value. Through hard work, maybe I'm now lower-middle. But I really aspire to become middle-middle. 1
TheBathWater Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Having been around the PUA community before, and knowing the mindset of these type of men (as well as the women who are attracted to them), I will say this about your posted article: This stuff works on women who have strong narcissistic tendencies and/or are too inexperienced to differentiate an honest decent guy worth their time from some con artist. Sadly, it happens way more than it should. But many women see through that kind of effrontery - you know, the kind of women we want to ultimately be with anyway. My attitude about these 'low value' women who are attracted to apparently 'high value' men is this: let the next guy have em'. I'm good. I've been with women like that before (and I have run game before when I was younger). It's exhausting. I do agree with the author's concern over the use of the word "creepy", and I feel this needs to be a more public discussion. It really is uncalled for.
lino Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Pretty rubbish article to me. I've seen the 'boring' dentist win out over the player before. Money and status is more important to women than the author of the article wants to let on. Only dangerous, physically violent men are the ones that I've seen trump money and/or status. I do agree with the author's concern over the use of the word "creepy", and I feel this needs to be a more public discussion. It really is uncalled for. Good luck with that!
lino Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Yes, they exist.... They are not necessarily rich, poor, ugly and/or handsome... They are guys who adhere to the saying "water seeks its own level" - however, these guys don't put much value on themselves (while one look at them and you can tell he is handsome, well do, etc - but "he" just doesn't see it) so, they aim low and go for whatever chicks. A lot of them will date any chick who just shows them attention. I know a lot of us go through phases where we are "coming into our own" and realizing our potential, but seems like these guys - no matter how much they got going on for them, just don't see it for whatever reasons (i.e. childhood trauma). Funny how the article lists the Craigslist killer. Dude was attractive, smart, going to become a freakin' doctor, had a beautiful fiance, but did some deviant things that made you scratch your head. Kanye West is a good example of a "Low Value Man". I mean, he marries Kim Kardashian - a piece of garbage who has an overinflated butt, most of her is plastic surgery, she's an idiot with no values, morals etc and got her "fame" by leaking a sex tape. Kanye, however, feels that this piece of trash should be the mother of his children. You pump and dump women like Kim, you don't give them children. Before Kim was Amber Rose. So, there you go...Low value guy (sorry, can't fathom considering him a "man"). Kanye West is indeed garbage but he could have all the women on this message board one after the other and then some if he wanted. Guys with his attitude coupled with the money and fame he has are VERY sought after. I don't get it personally but then I'm a man. Edited October 12, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Language
lollipopspot Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Kanye West is indeed garbage but he could have all the women on this message board one after the other and then some if he wanted..... Um, no. 4
seekingluck Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Kanye West is indeed garbage but he could have all the women on this message board one after the other and then some if he wanted. Guys with his attitude coupled with the money and fame he has are VERY sought after. I don't get it personally but then I'm a man. Kanye circa College Dropout had potential, he lost all potential when his mom died.
road Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 No new ground has been charted here. Both sexes want the best spouse they can get. However the media, specially movies and TV shows what happens in real life when a man goes after a woman that is above his status. There will be a words to say no way, looks that send the same message, change in body language that reinforces the get away from me loser message.
CFF Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Low value guys could be socially awkward or have aspergers, lack experience with girls, or be unattractive. Low value guys have no clue how to read girls or how dating works. 1
Author RoseWater Posted October 12, 2015 Author Posted October 12, 2015 No new ground has been charted here. Both sexes want the best spouse they can get. However the media, specially movies and TV shows what happens in real life when a man goes after a woman that is above his status. There will be a words to say no way, looks that send the same message, change in body language that reinforces the get away from me loser message. I've always been curious what makes low value men approach women? One of my friends is a gorgeous, well put together lawyer. She gets approached often by jobless scruffily dressed guys who can barely string a sentence together. She does attract quality men as well, but loads of real low value guys many of whom get aggressive when she refuses them
Clarence_Boddicker Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I didn't read the article. I do know that for some women a guy can be a multiple axe murderer & she wont care if he's attractive to her. Look at all the women who are drawn to incarcerated serial killers like Ted Bundy. They wanna marry them & have their children.
Frank2thepoint Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 https://liveandlearnkid.wordpress.com/2014/05/17/its-only-creepy-if-youre-of-low-value/ Hey, I know that building at the top picture in the article. It's just a 10 minute train ride away from my neighborhood.
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