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Old 17th August 2006, 5:03 PM   #1
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Males and timing - question for the men

I have a question for you, guys:

Are guys more influenced by the "present situation" than women? For instance, I hear a lot of people say that men tend to marry the woman they happen to be with when the finally feel like settling down. Or, alternatively, men may be dating a really good person for them, but if they're just not ready to "settle down" they'll just let her go.

Do you think there is any truth to that? That men are more guided by their current situation than by the person they're with at any give time?
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Old 17th August 2006, 5:06 PM   #2
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Is this assuming all females are chomping at the bit to get down the aisle?
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Old 17th August 2006, 5:11 PM   #3
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Is this assuming all females are chomping at the bit to get down the aisle?
Not necessarily - the "settling down" scenario is given more as an example of what I'm getting at. I basically want to know what drives men to act in any given way during the relationship - is it the person they're with, or the outside factors that may be impacting their lives?

I think most women are driven by the person they're with. And I kindda think that men are the same way, but I meet so many people - mostly women - that tell me that men are driven more by their outside "circumstances." I'm not sure that I believe them, hence my question.
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Old 17th August 2006, 5:12 PM   #4
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D*mmit- once again I find out I am not "most women".

But in truth, I'm rather curious on this point as well.
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Old 17th August 2006, 5:21 PM   #5
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Not necessarily - the "settling down" scenario is given more as an example of what I'm getting at. I basically want to know what drives men to act in any given way during the relationship - is it the person they're with, or the outside factors that may be impacting their lives?

I think most women are driven by the person they're with. And I kindda think that men are the same way, but I meet so many people - mostly women - that tell me that men are driven more by their outside "circumstances." I'm not sure that I believe them, hence my question.
Well, if you settle down for all the wrong reasons, the relationship's not going to get very far, is it?

When I'm going to settle down with someone, I'm going to have to like her, and she's going to have to like me...and the only way to test that would be to develop a relationship over time (through good times and bad).

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Old 17th August 2006, 5:27 PM   #6
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Y'know- this topic might make more sense if the males responding indicate their past LTRs and why they didn't want those particular relationships to turn into marriage.
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Old 17th August 2006, 6:07 PM   #7
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Y'know- this topic might make more sense if the males responding indicate their past LTRs and why they didn't want those particular relationships to turn into marriage.
Oh, yeah, that works best - so men, why didn't your past relationships turn into marriage - was in your "circumstances" or was it something about the girl?
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Old 17th August 2006, 9:00 PM   #8
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I did the marriage thing (now happily divorced), and can only speak from my personal experience here.

I wasn't keen on the idea. I figured, rightly or wrongly, that as a single guy I had too much to lose in getting married.

I knew beyond any doubt that:
  • Sex would become listless and rare;
  • Our financial situation would become more stressful, not less;
  • She would very likely "let herself go" because she didn't have to try to "win me" anymore;
  • Pressures from in-laws would cause some grief;
  • I would miss the freedoms that singlehood offered.

However, after much discussion with my SO of the time, and TONS of pressure from family and friends, we finally got married.

We were divorced 9 years later.

On every single count, I was right on the money.
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Old 17th August 2006, 9:08 PM   #9
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Superconductor - out of curiosity, what were those "freedoms" that singlehood offered?
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Old 17th August 2006, 10:17 PM   #10
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Superconductor - out of curiosity, what were those "freedoms" that singlehood offered?
Oh, wow, I don't even know where to start. How about:
  • Come and go as you please;
  • Eat what you want, when you want it;
  • Nobody else using the bathroom;
  • If the kitchen's a mess, it's your own damn fault;
  • Complete control of the remote;
  • No one else responsible for paying the bills, so they actually get paid on time;
  • Closet space;
  • Only 1 bar of soap and 1 bottle of shampoo in the shower;
  • No mind-games or arguments about something I may have said in passing over a year ago;
  • If I have to work late, I don't have to check-in;
  • No one snooping through my stuff;
  • I don't have to watch insipid romantic comedies;
  • No dealing with impossibly irritable women 1 week out of ever 4;
  • I can bring home a woman, have wonderful and luscious sex with her without any betrayal and the associated guilt;
  • No pantyhose or cotton undies damply hanging from the shower curtain rod;
  • I can - and do - invite my friends over from time to time, bbq a steak, have a few beers and generally enjoy myself without having to wonder if I'm going to pay for it later because she'll think I didn't pay enough attention to her...
Shall I go on?
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Old 17th August 2006, 10:30 PM   #11
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LMAO!

Surely, you know that there are those of us women out there who are not as difficult as your ex was!

I, for one, don't dangle my panties over he shower curtain rod!

Good post.
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Old 17th August 2006, 10:33 PM   #12
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Old 17th August 2006, 11:49 PM   #13
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Oh gosh-

well super, you probably right and wrong! You could have held out for a girl who wouldn't care about bbqs, sharing soap, watching those awful romantic comedies, etc. And trust me, some of us would be making potatoe salad and cookies for your bbq, and not whining about attention.

Geez- where do you guys find these scary girls?!!!
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Old 18th August 2006, 12:07 AM   #14
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I have a question for you, guys:

Are guys more influenced by the "present situation" than women? For instance, I hear a lot of people say that men tend to marry the woman they happen to be with when the finally feel like settling down. Or, alternatively, men may be dating a really good person for them, but if they're just not ready to "settle down" they'll just let her go.

Do you think there is any truth to that? That men are more guided by their current situation than by the person they're with at any give time?
No. I think there are a few categories of men and you might be dating any one of them:

1. He will marry the woman who will be a good wife and mother or just a woman he's been dating for a long time.

2. He will marry the woman he is dating in his time-to-settle-down phase of life, because he has a primitive, simple mind that believes that with a little bit of respect and faith, you can have a good marriage with any woman.

3. He will marry the woman he is in love with. This category is most prevalent, in my observation.

4. He will be picky his whole life and never marry anyone or will finally settle for less.

5. He will look for the ideal woman his whole life and have many serious relationships (or marriages) until he finds the right one... or he will end up alone.
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Old 18th August 2006, 12:26 AM   #15
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No. I think there are a few categories of men and you might be dating any one of them:

1. He will marry the woman who will be a good wife and mother or just a woman he's been dating for a long time.

2. He will marry the woman he is dating in his time-to-settle-down phase of life, because he has a primitive, simple mind that believes that with a little bit of respect and faith, you can have a good marriage with any woman.

3. He will marry the woman he is in love with. This category is most prevalent, in my observation.

4. He will be picky his whole life and never marry anyone or will finally settle for less.

5. He will look for the ideal woman his whole life and have many serious relationships (or marriages) until he finds the right one... or he will end up alone.
Thank you, RP, this answer is very illuminating!
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