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Old 25th January 2004, 6:51 PM   #1
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do these wives have self-respect?

Just read a thread that a wife asked the O/W to have self-respect and leave her husband alone, my question is:

Do these wives who live with a cheating husband have self-respect?

I don't like these women who get involved with married men, I have no sympathy for these wives who play victims and blame the o/w but never have the guts to leave a cheating husband, either.
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Old 25th January 2004, 6:57 PM   #2
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My guess is that you're not speaking from experience, and have no idea what this does to a person. I don't think they're seeking your approval, you can't empathize because you can't comprehend the situation.
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Old 25th January 2004, 7:03 PM   #3
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Yep, those situations are often very complex, and involve many factors. Probably best to try and not judge unless you have ALL the facts.
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Old 25th January 2004, 8:46 PM   #4
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Fifi, read some of my posts; you will perhaps understand a little more.

I have far more concerns than merely self respect - and a whole world more aspects to my self-respect than whether or not my spouse is cheating.

For instance: if I needlessly break up my very fixable marriage, and screw my children over because of it, my self-respect will be much more damaged. Follow me?

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Old 25th January 2004, 9:33 PM   #5
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yep; i would not be too quick to judge any side of this situation.

i've thought about it in my own relationship; it would be naive to assume it's not a possibility for either of us. a remote one at this stage, but it exists nonetheless. i think that's a healthy assumption to make; it's healthy to understand that you can never really know what another human being is going to do.

i think i might stick it out if it did happen, hilary clinton style, if it was with insert workmate, intern, or secretary. it's not terrific, but i think you can be a wife of a cheating spouse, stay with him, and not be a victim. in my opinion, it depends somewhat on how well you can spin.

if it was with someone i knew socially, i think i would leave him. i'm pretty confident i'll make it ok with or without a man, and i would consider this more of an inexcusable betrayal.

it's tempting to try and judge the other way around after all the anti-infidelity stuff, i'm sure. but i don't think your post is heading in a productive direction and it is unlikely to harvest sincere responses.

i appreciate your desire to at least put some new information into the debate, but this is a polemical and pointless direction.

why not really rigourously address whether or not monogamy is cultural or natural?
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Old 25th January 2004, 9:46 PM   #6
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why not really rigourously address whether or not monogamy is cultural or natural?
Good question. Regardless of the answers, I believe it is the way couples should behave once they have committed to each other.
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Old 25th January 2004, 10:01 PM   #7
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Self-respect? Hell yes!

Why don't we just bail the moment we find out about our spouse's infidelity? We made a commitment. Many of us have children and have to weigh what divorce will do to those children. We have a shared history - in my case 30 years of knowing him, 20 years of marriage.

Self-respect allows us to remain strong to try to repair the marriage. Self-respect in my case helped me find the strength to ask him to leave when I had exhausted all avenues (counselling, behavior modification, pleading, promising, praying) and he still wanted the OW to be a part of his life.
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Old 25th January 2004, 10:34 PM   #8
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You sound like a strong woman brashgal
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Old 25th January 2004, 11:00 PM   #9
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Red face children low your self-respect?

I know some people would bring up children as defense! but I believe they stay for themselves, not for children. and another great line is: "I love my husband"----at least, this one makes more sense than "for children's sake". unfortunately, the husband doesn't love her as much as she deserves.

From my observation, the o/w moves on quickly and find new happiness with someone else, the wife who stays with her cheating husband suffers forever--she doesnt have to but she chooses to!
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Old 25th January 2004, 11:05 PM   #10
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I'm kinda with FiFi on this one.....

If I were married and he had a one night fling....I don't want to know and wouldn't care.

However, if he had an emotionally involved long term sex-a-thon with someone....I wouldn't stay with him regardless. I'd garage sale all his crap, take him for every dime.....and make his life a living hell.

I think this is why my exhusband just left town without too much explanation for 6 years before I heard from him again. He was SCARED of me.....and STILL is....hahahaha!
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Old 26th January 2004, 12:25 AM   #11
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""I'd garage sale all his crap, take him for every dime.....and make his life a living hell. ""

lol. that actually made me think of a song by an R&B artist where she finds her man cheating and spends all of his money, and sells all of his stuff, and puts whatever is left in a sack for him. Revenge is better than money, she says.
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Old 26th January 2004, 12:29 AM   #12
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I'm kinda with FiFi on this one.....

. . I'd garage sale all his crap, take him for every dime.....and make his life a living hell.

You make me laugh! but that's what I would have done if I were in your shoes!
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Old 26th January 2004, 12:36 AM   #13
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Revenge is better than money, she says.
Girlie, neither for money nor revenge, I think I would do it for "Self-love" & "self-respect". a cheating husband certainly has no respect for his wife, so, let her stand up for herself.
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Old 26th January 2004, 1:07 AM   #14
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i appreciate your desire to at least put some new information into the debate, but this is a polemical and pointless direction.

why not really rigourously address whether or not monogamy is cultural or natural?
cultural or natural, Does it matter?

Sex drive is natural, does it give a man good reason to rape? would you tolerate a rapist?
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Old 26th January 2004, 1:23 AM   #15
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that response is a perversion of the question and commits a 'slippery slope' fallacy.

but fair enough; my initial speculation was incorrect. you did receive intelligent responses, even to a polarized question.
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