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Old 24th October 2009, 7:11 PM   #1
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Unhappy I can not attract women.

Sorry, I made this topic before with a different name. The reason why I am making another thread is to get help. People did not take me seriously in my original topic. Some thought I was a troll when I only asked for help. Hopefully now I can get some help.

Hello everyone. I am Franklin. I am a 19 year old college student. I have a job on campus. I don't have many problems in my life. Overall I have to say my life is good. I have many friends. I am well respected by my family, friends, classmates, . In high school I was popular and well known. Many people I did not know, knew about me. I am funny and nice. I can easily make people laugh and have a good time. I enjoy playing video games, watching movies, shopping, hanging out with friends, bowling, basketball, football, professional wrestling, etc. I am Brett Favre's number one fan! My favorite food is chicken. My favorite meal is Shrimp Lo Mein with Orange Chicken on top! My favorite drink is rootbeer. I fit in with a lot of social groups, cool kids, jocks, nerds, average, etc. I am far from your well known stereotype person.

Everything sound good. Right?

I do have one major issue in my life. I can not attract women. I have never been kissed and never had a girlfriend. I am not shy. I am very outgoing as I have already made clear. I am not scare to speak to women. I talk to them everyday. I have asked out a lot of girls on dates. All of them said no. In almost every class I have taken in school(elementary, middle, high, and colledge), every girl in the class was not interested in me.

Why aren't women interested in me? Why have all of them rejected me?

Every girl who has rejected has said I have too ugly to date. Girls who I did not asked on dates also said that I am the ugliest guy there is date. I am the worst of the worst.(Don't get confused, I am saying their opinions. I am not calling myself ugly).

Sometimes when I try to meet a new girl, she gives me a negative facial expression. She makes an ugly face like "hey back off" or "is this guy really trying to talk to me?". I am not hitting on her. I am just trying to have casual conversation.

In school girls sometimes like to rate guys. Who is cute, sexy, hot, average, nerdy, or just plain ugly. I always ended up on the ugly rating from every girl.

There is some confusion.

People often say I am a good looking guy. People at church always say this. My friends and family often say this. At first I am like " hey they are just being nice". However I am often to this by random older people. At church Sunday the pastor spoke up in prayer and made a special prayer for me(he was giving out other prayers). He mention that I am a good looking guy, and a lot people were also saying this(they don't know about my problem with women). When I was younger random people always said I was a good looking kid, and they said it to me more often than every other kid in my classes.

I am not black enough?

Yes, I am black. I am not your stereotype black person. I do not like nor respect hip hop, rape, and anything that is ghetto. I am not an ass man. I do not dress like the stereotype ghetto person. I do not speak without using my Es and Rs. Is this putting women off? Are they expecting me to be someone I don't want to be?

Women want a man that can dress. Right?

I have always been I told I am a good dresser. My friends, family, church members, random people, random students, teachers, etc. Some people ask me where did I get that? They love it. They like it. I wear sports appeal, polo shirts, regular blues jeans, black jeans, etc. I do NOT wear any clothes that are made faded nor were made with holes in them. So here is my style.

http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/b...t=nfl_vwt2.jpg

http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/b...p6394632dt.jpg

http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/b...p6394621dt.jpg

http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/b...dRATED-RKO.jpg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/p...an/polo/19.jpg
(I wear polos but not this color)

So Franklin what do you look like?

Oh yes. I have to show pictures to help judge the situation. I am not trying to be arrogant. I am just trying to get help for my problem.

http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RA...nt=FRANKLIN.jpg

http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RA...rrent=James.jpg

http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RA...nt=LastScan.jpg
(I was at an amusement park)

My ears are a problem.

I still hear the "ugliest piece of **** comment from girls on campus. They normally say it behind my back. I know they are talking about me because they sometimes mention my ears. Sometimes girls start to laugh at me when they first look at me. I really want to say something to them, but I don't. I just continue to mind my own business. I do not need any drama in my life.

I know my ears are different. I was teased about it early in school by a few kids, but as I got older it rarely happen. Now of days it is either women or a few ghetto stereotypes who talk about my ears, but never to my face.

Other then the few people who talk about my ears, I'm very respected by the people I know. I don't have to worry about such comments being said. I just have a good and fun time with my friends.

I think the main reason why women don't want to date is because of my ears. I think it puts them off. I've met only one person with similar ears as mine's. Women may not take me serious because of them. I thought about having surgery to fix them, but at the time I wanted someone to accept me. I've stayed strong on that decision. I don't want someone to decide to love me after getting surgery because I was born this way. It would not be true love because I would only get love by changing my body. It's not like I disrespected my body by getting out of shape, and not staying clean.

What are my standards?
All of my standards have equal importance. They are not in any particular order.

1. She must be a christian. I want someone who has the same religious beliefs as I do.

2. She must be slender. I am not attracted to women who are fat. I take care of myself so I would want someone who would do the same for themselves when it comes to weight.

3. I would like a girl with big breast. I have a fetish for big breast. I would not overlook a girl with small breast, they can be cute as well. This standard is just a want, not a need. I have asked out women with small breast.

4. She must be clean. All I am asking is for a woman to take care of herself. Be nicely groomed.

5. She must dress nice. Wear respectable clean clothes.

6. We must have good commutation. I believe a good relationship needs good communication.

7. She must be outgoing. I never met a shy girl before so I don't know if I would go out with one. I like a girl to be outgoing.

I am not attracted to most black girls.

I am just not attracted to most black girls. I am not physically attracted to most of them. Most I have met are ghetto stereotypes which is unappealing. I would date a black girl if she is not ghetto. I am not saying all black girls are ghetto, I am saying most I have met are.

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Old 25th October 2009, 2:49 AM   #2
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TIPS FROM A GIRL!!!

See this guy's hair?

http://men-haircuts.com/wp-content/u...4700387_10.jpg

That should be your hair. Your hair texture may or may not be different, but the point is that it puts some volume on TOP of the head to counteract a little bit of the ears. Will Smith does the same thing: he has protruding ears (his trademark) and when high top cuts were in fashion, he used that to his advantage in the early 90s.

I can't speak for all races, but from my experience white women are fascinated by how much creativity and volume that natural black hair can have. The guy with the most game with all races that I've ever seen was actually this gothic black guy with long dreadlocks with pewter beads in some of them that wore eyeliner and looked awesome. I'm not saying that you should go that far, but I would experiment with the hair.

ALSO, your glasses are resting too low on the bridge of your nose, making your face looked more scrunched up than it really is. It looks like you should push you glasses up, but really what you should do in the future is have smaller ones. They're rather large glasses, and they need to rest higher on the bridge of the nose.

You're tall, thin, fashionable, and have great skin. You have good facial proportions and I think that the tips I gave you will help to bring them out a little more.

Rock on and the outfit in pic 2 is completely awesome!
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Old 25th October 2009, 7:22 AM   #3
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Any possibility you can get contacts? If you want transcend stereotypes, ditch the glasses because it makes you look nerdish.

Honestly though, don't give up, man. You being outgoing and transcending stereotypes is something to be applauded. In the meantime, if someone rejects you, just imagine yourself giving them a punt kick to the face and you should feel better.
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Old 25th October 2009, 9:52 AM   #4
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TIPS FROM A GIRL!!!

See this guy's hair?

http://men-haircuts.com/wp-content/u...4700387_10.jpg

That should be your hair. Your hair texture may or may not be different, but the point is that it puts some volume on TOP of the head to counteract a little bit of the ears. Will Smith does the same thing: he has protruding ears (his trademark) and when high top cuts were in fashion, he used that to his advantage in the early 90s.

I can't speak for all races, but from my experience white women are fascinated by how much creativity and volume that natural black hair can have. The guy with the most game with all races that I've ever seen was actually this gothic black guy with long dreadlocks with pewter beads in some of them that wore eyeliner and looked awesome. I'm not saying that you should go that far, but I would experiment with the hair.

ALSO, your glasses are resting too low on the bridge of your nose, making your face looked more scrunched up than it really is. It looks like you should push you glasses up, but really what you should do in the future is have smaller ones. They're rather large glasses, and they need to rest higher on the bridge of the nose.

You're tall, thin, fashionable, and have great skin. You have good facial proportions and I think that the tips I gave you will help to bring them out a little more.

Rock on and the outfit in pic 2 is completely awesome!
I really don't like that hair style, but I might give it a shot. I have tried different haircuts in recent years.

Thanks for the advice.

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Any possibility you can get contacts? If you want transcend stereotypes, ditch the glasses because it makes you look nerdish.

Honestly though, don't give up, man. You being outgoing and transcending stereotypes is something to be applauded. In the meantime, if someone rejects you, just imagine yourself giving them a punt kick to the face and you should feel better.
I really don't want contacts. My eyes are very sensitive. However early next year I will be getting glasses with shaded lens.

Thanks for the advice.
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Old 25th October 2009, 10:54 AM   #5
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I second the hairstyle comment -- it is the first thing that came to mind.

We all have our little body flaws. Camouflage them ESPECIALLY if you are really sensitive/self-conscious about them. It will only help to improve your confidence and that helps with all things (most especially women).

You say the glasses are a must - I'm not so sure they'd have to go anyway. I totally dig glasses as an accessory.
Experiment with some different frames though. I know plenty of men who can pull off more of a horn rimmed glasses look. They make a statement and look intellectual but also very cool.

You have style - the way you dress is great. So you have a lot going for you. And just an observation as you get older you'll fill out. Most men who are lean like you are end up pretty built in their late 20's early 30's.
It is well known that men generally get more attractive as they get older.
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Old 25th October 2009, 12:30 PM   #6
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Okay.

Frankly I wouldn't go out with you if you asked me for a date. Your looks are kinda so-so, if not below that. Physical attraction is very important to most people.

However.

I have always believed there's someone out there for EVERYONE. So. Don't give up. Keep on searching and very soon you'll find someone who will love you for who YOU are.
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Old 25th October 2009, 8:18 PM   #7
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I second the hairstyle comment -- it is the first thing that came to mind.

We all have our little body flaws. Camouflage them ESPECIALLY if you are really sensitive/self-conscious about them. It will only help to improve your confidence and that helps with all things (most especially women).

You say the glasses are a must - I'm not so sure they'd have to go anyway. I totally dig glasses as an accessory.
Experiment with some different frames though. I know plenty of men who can pull off more of a horn rimmed glasses look. They make a statement and look intellectual but also very cool.

You have style - the way you dress is great. So you have a lot going for you. And just an observation as you get older you'll fill out. Most men who are lean like you are end up pretty built in their late 20's early 30's.
It is well known that men generally get more attractive as they get older.
I am not self-conscious about me ears(I am not saying you said that). I don't have confidence problems. I have been working out for over a year now. I still don't have much muscle.

Thanks for the response.

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Okay.

Frankly I wouldn't go out with you if you asked me for a date. Your looks are kinda so-so, if not below that. Physical attraction is very important to most people.

However.

I have always believed there's someone out there for EVERYONE. So. Don't give up. Keep on searching and very soon you'll find someone who will love you for who YOU are.
I get this from every girl I have known. Girls I have asked out and girls who I did not ask out. Every girl has said that my looks are awful, and I am the worst to get. I am not whining about it I am just stating the facts.

Thanks for the response.
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Old 27th October 2009, 8:51 AM   #8
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your actually average but you play down your looks.

About the ears, you could either get them surgically modified to not stick out or you could use your hair. Grow somewhat of a short afro or I think dreadlocks would be even better.

Lose the glasses or choose one that does not look nerdy on you. Doesnt matter what style but it has to look good on you.
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Old 27th October 2009, 5:04 PM   #9
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Sometimes when I try to meet a new girl, she gives me a negative facial expression. She makes an ugly face like "hey back off" or "is this guy really trying to talk to me?". I am not hitting on her. I am just trying to have casual conversation.

In school girls sometimes like to rate guys. Who is cute, sexy, hot, average, nerdy, or just plain ugly. I always ended up on the ugly rating from every girl.


I took a look at your photos. You are not "ugly." Your look in the face can be changed with some superficial adjustments (glasses, hair, etc), but constant rejection is usually not symptomatic of being physically unattractive.

How are you approaching these women? do you have anything in common with them? do you take a class together and then approach asking questions about the lecture or the homework? what exactly do you mean by "casual conversation?"

I'm trying to get you to think about how you're interacting with these women. If you are approaching random thin, large-breasted women who aren't in any of your classes or know any of your friends, you're probably going to be out of luck in the dating department. The women you describe as preferred are the ones who are relentlessly pursued by men all the time. It is understandable if they're used to playing defensively. So, tell us, what exactly are you doing to attract these women to your personality?
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Old 27th October 2009, 5:35 PM   #10
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Sometimes when I try to meet a new girl, she gives me a negative facial expression. She makes an ugly face like "hey back off" or "is this guy really trying to talk to me?". I am not hitting on her. I am just trying to have casual conversation.

In school girls sometimes like to rate guys. Who is cute, sexy, hot, average, nerdy, or just plain ugly. I always ended up on the ugly rating from every girl.


I took a look at your photos. You are not "ugly." Your look in the face can be changed with some superficial adjustments (glasses, hair, etc), but constant rejection is usually not symptomatic of being physically unattractive.

How are you approaching these women? do you have anything in common with them? do you take a class together and then approach asking questions about the lecture or the homework? what exactly do you mean by "casual conversation?"

I'm trying to get you to think about how you're interacting with these women. If you are approaching random thin, large-breasted women who aren't in any of your classes or know any of your friends, you're probably going to be out of luck in the dating department. The women you describe as preferred are the ones who are relentlessly pursued by men all the time. It is understandable if they're used to playing defensively. So, tell us, what exactly are you doing to attract these women to your personality?
I don't approach random girls. Most girls I have asked out were in my classes. Not all of them are large breasted women.

My casual conversation when meeting a new girl in class is mainly discussing something about the class rather it is the work, teacher, or students. It is not a long discussion just a short chat. Depending on the girl and her attitude I might try to start a friendship. I will ask her "how are you" to start a conversation. If she told me about she was going to a concert, I'll ask her "how was it" after she went to the concert. I listen to women when they speak, and I rarely forget anything. Some girls are surprised that I remember the things they tell me. I also talk about things we have in the common.

For example and this really happen.
I met this cute girl in my math class. The first time we talked it was about the class, and I introduced myself. We set next to each other everyday. Before class we would talk about our day, her life in Germany, the class if she wanted my notes, her hobbies, we both liked football and basketball, etc. We were really cool friends. I have not had her in any other classes and this was last year.
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Old 27th October 2009, 5:44 PM   #11
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I agree, his suits do look like they're too big for him. I wouldn't say baggy though because there's a difference between something being baggy and something being too big.
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That sounds good. What about your friends? do you have a supportive network of people on or around campus who can lead you to others? it is good to get out with people who know you well to show your potentials how well liked you are by others.
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I agree, his suits do look like they're too big for him. I wouldn't say baggy though because there's a difference between something being baggy and something being too big.
My clothes are not too big.

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That sounds good. What about your friends? do you have a supportive network of people on or around campus who can lead you to others? it is good to get out with people who know you well to show your potentials how well liked you are by others.
Yes, I hangout at the Student Center on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
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Old 27th October 2009, 6:31 PM   #14
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My clothes are not too big.
How come they look that way then?
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Old 27th October 2009, 10:02 PM   #15
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Alright, so i hate to come off like an *******, but from that post you seemed like your biggest flaw was being too arrogant, in your post you made yourself seem like a perfect guy, I don't if that's how you normally act or what, but take a step back and see if maybe that's what's putting women off.
With your appearance, I think that the people at your church and your family etc. may have been sugar coating it a little bit, now the women who said you were the ugliest guy ever were also going to far, but based on those pictures I'd say you're somewhere in the middle. Certainly lose the glasses they make you look very nerdy.
But the most important thing is to keep trying, and don't get discouraged, the right girl is out there for everyone
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