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Old 6th October 2009, 1:15 PM   #1
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Antidepressants, Alcohol, NPD, One Hot Mess

Please forgive me if this comes off a bit convoluted.

For those who don't know, my ex has NPD.
The relationship imploded in a nasty way.
Surprise.

Since everything fell and went boom, his true characteristics have surfaced more and more - he sees no need for a facade any longer.
Except sometimes, in small moments.
Every new break is killing me.

Even though I know this is really him, it's still very distressing to me.
I loved him greatly, am guily of being a romantic.
I hate that part of myself at the moment.

He stops by. He's drinking, beer. He's also on antidepressants.

Just in case this is important: he is very thin, and rarely drank before.

I don't believe he had too much to drink, but the way he acted was very bizarre, almost manic.

My question is: even if one doesn't drink a large quantity of alcohol, is drinking while on anti-ds a dangerous thing for him to do?
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Old 6th October 2009, 1:16 PM   #2
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If this helps, the antidepressant is Zoloft.
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Old 6th October 2009, 1:40 PM   #3
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If this helps, the antidepressant is Zoloft.
Often anti-depressants will accelerate the effects of alcohol. You get drunk faster. If he is not much of a drinker, the booze could have really hit him hard.

It is highly discourage to drink, specially quantity, of booze while on anti-d's. Alcohol is a depressant so it negates any good the anit-d's do and often will create a increase in depression for days after drinking, specially if it is in quantity.
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Old 6th October 2009, 2:39 PM   #4
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Thank you for the answer, GrayClouds.

Yes, that makes sense.

He was laughing about things that were not amusing.
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Old 6th October 2009, 2:44 PM   #5
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My question is: even if one doesn't drink a large quantity of alcohol, is drinking while on anti-ds a dangerous thing for him to do?
Here is a link which answers that very question about Zoloft and alcohol:

http://depression.emedtv.com/zoloft/...nd-zoloft.html
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Old 6th October 2009, 4:29 PM   #6
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On some anti depressants or all over here it says alcohol isn't advised, but I think they just do that to be on the safe side and maybe so no one can sue them if they have an accident while drunk and on anti depressants or something.

I've been on anti depressants since 2006 and I've had a drink every week, it's not done me any harm, and I definatley don't act manically. Maybe he's just a rare person who isn't suited to drink and anti depressants, or maybe he has some other issues.

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Old 7th October 2009, 4:30 PM   #7
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JamesM - You've eased my mind a lot. Thanks muchly.

Ross - Thanks for sharing your experience. Right now, I'm of the mind that it's unmasking other issues - just like you wrote.


He was being quite sadistic. Usually, he's a bit more subtle than that.
It is really just such a trainwreck, I am so hurt and saddened by this.
This is my fault (why I am saddened).


I appreciate the feedback, it calms me.
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Old 7th October 2009, 5:02 PM   #8
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JamesM - You've eased my mind a lot. Thanks muchly.

Ross - Thanks for sharing your experience. Right now, I'm of the mind that it's unmasking other issues - just like you wrote.


He was being quite sadistic. Usually, he's a bit more subtle than that.
It is really just such a trainwreck, I am so hurt and saddened by this.
This is my fault (why I am saddened).


I appreciate the feedback, it calms me.
Glad to have been of help, deux.
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JamesM - You've eased my mind a lot. Thanks muchly.

Ross - Thanks for sharing your experience. Right now, I'm of the mind that it's unmasking other issues - just like you wrote.


He was being quite sadistic. Usually, he's a bit more subtle than that.
It is really just such a trainwreck, I am so hurt and saddened by this.
This is my fault (why I am saddened).


I appreciate the feedback, it calms me.
As a therapist I will vouch for the link James sent you.

I'm sorry for your experience..how terrible.
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Old 8th October 2009, 11:26 PM   #10
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Ross -

Devil - Thanks for the checking up, and the empathy. I've come to the conclusion that some of this was done purposely. How conscious he actually is of this, I do not know.
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Old 8th October 2009, 11:34 PM   #11
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it's not your fault - as you stated...

it is his fault - he is the only one to take care of himself and the same goes for you.
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Old 9th October 2009, 4:17 PM   #12
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it's not your fault - as you stated...

it is his fault - he is the only one to take care of himself and the same goes for you.

Sunny, thanks for the reminder.

The fact that he is no longer my partner is a huge leap for me. I don't know where I found the courage.

I guess...it's not like I can wake up one day and like a lamp, switch everything off at once.

He has this childlike side that brings out a part of me that wants to take care of him.

I'm starting to see that it is manipulation.

It is amazing to me, how I can justify things to myself, as well. I have to be brutally honest with myself, and it isn't pretty...

I'm getting there. That fact that I'm away is almost surreal to me still.

It would be nice if it was a linear process, but apparently not.


Thank you again for that reminder.
I do tend to get twisted up in it at times like this.
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It sounds to me like he's drinking more than you know. Perhaps some vodka on the sly that you don't know about. It doesn't take much for him to do a shot every so often and keep the high on beer in between, The serious weight loss does NOT jive with anti-d's...abuse of hard liquor does. His behavior does as well.

With him being NPD and drinking, things can get out of control quickly. I was M to one who was both NPD and an alcoholic at the same time. It was scary and dangerous. He hurt me many times.
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It sounds to me like he's drinking more than you know. Perhaps some vodka on the sly that you don't know about. It doesn't take much for him to do a shot every so often and keep the high on beer in between, The serious weight loss does NOT jive with anti-d's...abuse of hard liquor does. His behavior does as well.
He never drank a lot before, and was always thin. Now he's lost more weight still. He's approaching emaciated (hell, he is).

He could be drinking more than I know...that's a good point, sitexas.

When I think about the anti-d's, combined with alcohol, and the fact that he is losing weight and acting this way is hard to take.


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With him being NPD and drinking, things can get out of control quickly. I was M to one who was both NPD and an alcoholic at the same time. It was scary and dangerous. He hurt me many times.

That sounds like a nightmare. I'm so glad you are away from that.


When you say, "things can get out of control quickly", you told a very real truth. He has always went through phases where he would do things that were unpredictable -- but this is different.

He told me a lot of things today that are going to haunt me for awhile.

He loves me so v. much. Lucky me.
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My question is: even if one doesn't drink a large quantity of alcohol, is drinking while on anti-ds a dangerous thing for him to do?
From what I've read and been told one should not mix Anti-D's and alcohol becuase the alcohol can intensify the affects of the medication. I believe most Anti-D's have this warning label on them.

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