I think there are. Of course, this is my opinion, but I state it based on my interpretation of the scriptures and the differing punishments to be meted out for certain sins.
Not every sin meritted death. That suggests a level of trespass, to me. Some sins had death as an instant consequence, some had fees/fines.
But that's enough of my opinion on it. I am curious as to what others think.
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I thought all sins were equal in the eyes of "God".
However, in my opinion being a child molester is much worse than robbing a bank.
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if all sins are equal, then thinking about cheating is the same as cheating, so might as well cheat!!!
and every married strip bar patron is a cheater! They aint thinking about music or how shiny those poles are! Might as well stick it in!!!
if all sins are equal, then thinking about cheating is the same as cheating, so might as well cheat!!!
and every married strip bar patron is a cheater! They aint thinking about music or how shiny those poles are! Might as well stick it in!!!
Actually the scriptures support this notion. Christ said that looking at a woman and desiring to be with her in your mind was no different than actually doing it. Paul the Apostle took it a step further by explaining that thinking about something plants a seed to actually carry it out.
Might as well my ass! Leave sinning aside for a second because morally it's is MUCH worse to follow through with actions!
Morals are different than sins!
a sin is a sin is a sin! If desiring is cheating its no worse or better than flat out screwing your neighbors wife for real! no difference! None! According to the conclusion of this thread!
thus every bad intention you CAN'T go through with you might as well say "i committed the sin' and you might as well commit them! Hell, you are truly damned if you do and damned if you don't, because you are damned if you THOUGHT about it apparently...
Oh arise you just love nit pickin at me..it's okay I need a daily challenge.
I was dissagreeing with the fact of "following through with it anyways". A sin is a sin plain and simple but I was talking about it in a non-religious manner: that doing so is much worse than thinking it.
"the following through with it anyways" only makes sense if one things all sins are equal! I'm showing how absurd that is!
I dont consider someone masturbating to a woman the same as screwing her. And nobody else does either! they are just goose stepping to what they think the Bible says!
"the following through with it anyways" only makes sense if one things all sins are equal! I'm showing how absurd that is!
I dont consider someone masturbating to a woman the same as screwing her. And nobody else does either! they are just goose stepping to what they think the Bible says!
I do. It says lusting in your heart is as bad as doing it. Yes, we have all lusted(fantasized)about someone other than our significant other. And I don't think I know what the Bible says, I study to show myself approved.
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"the following through with it anyways" only makes sense if one things all sins are equal! I'm showing how absurd that is!
I dont consider someone masturbating to a woman the same as screwing her. And nobody else does either! they are just goose stepping to what they think the Bible says!
I wouldn't say that I think its absurd to think that all sins are equal, if that's what you are saying.
Masturbating is an action. An action that I don't think is a sin unless its a compulsion and from a place of addiction than simply pleasure (don't ask me to explain that logic).
One of the Ten Commandments is that of not "coveting", or envy. Desiring what someone else has to the point of lusting after it whether in thought or in deed is a sin, but coveting is number 10.
I think people have something mixed up. The ultimate consequences of sin are the same, but I think that there are definite levels of sin.
This borders on a self-contradictory statement. What is the impact or even the point of these levels if they are ignored at the final count?
Cheers,
D.
I am aware that it borders on it. But its not really.
Your sins can be forgiven. If not, then yeah, the ultimate outcome is the same after death. But I'm not interested in discussing what happens after death.
OTOH, the ultimate outcome is the same if your sins are forgiven too. So, death is a moot point. No one can sin anymore once they are dead.
Thinking of sin as trespass of some sort. There are levels of trespass, are there not. There are sentencing guidelines based on criminal acts. Jail sentences are decided based on the type of crime. We have misdemeanors and felonies. I think sin can be ranked in much the same way, hence the different punishments based on the sin. Sin is sin. Crime is crime. But there is no one size/punishment fits all.
What are the different punishments for differents sins? The only one I'm aware of in Christian mythology is Hell.
Cheers,
D.
You're still talking about after death. I'm talking about the consequences while living. I guess, this is more of an Old Testament review than a New Testament one.
For example, all those outrageous laws that are quoted in other threads to make Christianity, and for that matter Judaism, seem really sexist and outdated ( the cutting off of a wife's hands for trying to defend her husband, comes to mind). Getting your hand cut off, is not the same thing as being "stoned, outside the gates of the city". Being forced to marry the girl you raped, isn't the same as being forced to marry your rapist or stoned for not screaming if you were in fact raped.
There's that old adage about the punishment fitting the crime, I think you used it in the "unconditional love" thread. If a punishment fits the crime, then it stands to reason that there must be levels. To me, that is.
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