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Old 2nd July 2008, 8:09 PM   #1
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Who's easier to read in relationships - men or women?

Got the idea for this when I went off topic on another thread (oops, sorry all).

Which gender do you think is easier to fathom (thanks Mr. Lucky for the awesome word root)? Generally, not on a case by case basis.

I think the prevailing belief is that women are inscrutable mysteries, even to themselves half the time, and men are simple, uncomplicated folk who say what they mean and mean what they say.

Sort of silly, very retro, gender wars kind of question, but I think it speaks to many of the preconceptions that we have about the other gender's communication style.

And I'm curious to hear what other people think (I'll keep my opinion to myself for now).
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Old 2nd July 2008, 8:14 PM   #2
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Got the idea for this when I went off topic on another thread (oops, sorry all).

Which gender do you think is easier to fathom (thanks Mr. Lucky for the awesome word root)? Generally, not on a case by case basis.

I think the prevailing belief is that women are inscrutable mysteries, even to themselves half the time, and men are simple, uncomplicated folk who say what they mean and mean what they say.

Sort of silly, very retro, gender wars kind of question, but I think it speaks to many of the preconceptions that we have about the other gender's communication style.

And I'm curious to hear what other people think (I'll keep my opinion to myself for now).

I doubt there will be much argument here. The answer is women. While men are capable of all kinds of mis-direction and deception, they are not good at hiding their emotions.

Women on the other hand are certainly inscrutable mysteries. By and large, a man is expect to read the mind of his mate for a relationship to succeed... or, just agree with everything.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 8:16 PM   #3
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I would say that women are easier to read... they are more emotional, more 'clingy', more needy, more 'doormatsy' in general... they are the ones who will do the first steps, after a break-up..(first call, first text message, etc.)

Men are harder to read.. we never know if they are interested as much as we are.. IMO.. is he going to call... what is he thinking,.. does he loves me.. is he interested... (from all the posts here)

From the posts here I would say women are easier to read.. in general.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 8:41 PM   #4
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I would say that women are easier to read... they are more emotional, more 'clingy', more needy, more 'doormatsy' in general... they are the ones who will do the first steps, after a break-up..(first call, first text message, etc.)

Men are harder to read.. we never know if they are interested as much as we are.. IMO.. is he going to call... what is he thinking,.. does he loves me.. is he interested... (from all the posts here)

From the posts here I would say women are easier to read.. in general.
I strongly disagree. Men are nothing if not consistent. You do X, he'll do Y. I'll never understand WHY they do what they do... but it's pretty easy to peg WHAT they'll do.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 8:45 PM   #5
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hands down - men... straight forward and no games...

i always said i think like a man.

i say what i mean and mean what i say.

men are simple... they generally are three things:

hungry
tired
horny

predictable really...
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Old 2nd July 2008, 8:47 PM   #6
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In general I would say men but women have a harder time reading men than men do.

A man can drive in a car for half an hour and not say a single word to his guy friend and neither will question if anything is wrong, nor will anything actually be wrong. But if that man drives for half an hour with his SO and doesn't say a single word, her head will burst thinking of things that could possibly be wrong.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 8:55 PM   #7
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OTOH, and proving that stereotypes should be shot and buried, some men, like myself, are impossible to read. I have to provide women an instruction manual

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men are simple... they generally are three things:

hungry
tired
horny

predictable really...
Yes, very predictable, except you just described my wife

Truthfully, I think women prefer simple men, and, proving this, even with her personality type, my wife has lamented more than once in MC she wishes I were a "normal guy". Sorry to disappoint you babe, but my journey in life is going to be anything but "normal"
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Old 2nd July 2008, 9:09 PM   #8
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Most men are easier to read.

Women are not as hard as you may think though. You just have to learn to ask the right questions.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 9:18 PM   #9
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OTOH, and proving that stereotypes should be shot and buried, some men, like myself, are impossible to read. I have to provide women an instruction manual



Yes, very predictable, except you just described my wife

Truthfully, I think women prefer simple men, and, proving this, even with her personality type, my wife has lamented more than once in MC she wishes I were a "normal guy". Sorry to disappoint you babe, but my journey in life is going to be anything but "normal"
you sound pretty interesting, carhill.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 9:21 PM   #10
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I would say that women are easier to read... they are more emotional, more 'clingy', more needy, more 'doormatsy' in general... they are the ones who will do the first steps, after a break-up..(first call, first text message, etc.)

Men are harder to read.. we never know if they are interested as much as we are.. IMO.. is he going to call... what is he thinking,.. does he loves me.. is he interested... (from all the posts here)

From the posts here I would say women are easier to read.. in general.
While I do agree (now I'm showing my hand) that women are the easiest to read, I think that the doormatsy (love that types are probably the most obscure.
You, Lizzie, from reading your posts, are no doormat, and read like a book, a really interesting, raunchy book
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Old 2nd July 2008, 11:05 PM   #11
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While I do agree (now I'm showing my hand) that women are the easiest to read, I think that the doormatsy (love that types are probably the most obscure.
You, Lizzie, from reading your posts, are no doormat, and read like a book, a really interesting, raunchy book
Substitute doormatsy for passive aggressive... I think that is a more accurate description.

Lizzie is a book I would not want to read.
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Old 2nd July 2008, 11:10 PM   #12
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I think both genders are difficult to read during the first part of any relationship, since neither one is acting in a rational manner. Hormones before gray matter...
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Old 2nd July 2008, 11:32 PM   #13
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Tricky question. I'll lean more towards the woman side. Sometimes things could be going wrong and the woman might expect the guy to read her mind and know what the problem is like some fairy tale. What did he forget to buy her dinner, kiss her goodnight, not notice her new hairdo, or take out the trash?

I think any sex will likely find their counterpart to be hard to read - hence men are from mars and women are from venus.
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To add to my post about the first part of a relationship, I'd like to offer the definition of Hysteria:
  1. Behavior exhibiting excessive or uncontrollable emotion, such as fear or panic.
  2. A mental disorder characterized by emotional excitability and sometimes by amnesia or a physical deficit, such as paralysis, or a sensory deficit, without an organic cause.
Do you see the parallel?

No wonder neither gender can read each other!
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Old 3rd July 2008, 8:48 AM   #15
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I don't think either sex is easier to read. Both manage situations and address them differently. Communication styles on both ends leave alot of room for theory on the opposite gender.

I don't agree that men are more straight forward and honest then women either. The threads here are reason enough to think that.

I also don't really know if I agree that men are "simple". They might be a little less complicated in their methods, but I think alot of men have alot going on under the surface that is never expressed.
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