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Old 2nd January 2008, 2:39 PM   #1
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Problem 16 Year Old

Hi, all. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom you might share.

I have 3 children - the older 2 are doing ok, out on their own, making their way in the world. My youngest is 16. Their father and I have been divorced for 13-14 years. He is a drug addict and alcoholic and has only contributed negatively in their lives.

My 16 year old....I don't know what to do. I feel like I'm on the verge of kicking her out.

At 12, she was out of control, practically a run away, and stole $400 from me by swiping my debit card and going to the ATM.

She had a baby at 14. I'm now helping her raise my grandson...and he is THE light of my life.

A month ago, while her child was WITH her, she was caught trying to shoplife from a dept. store. Now "I" have to pay $100 for HER willfully doing wrong.

She is the most ungrateful, unpleasant person I've ever known. She feels so entitled to everything - and she's so undeserving of every little thing she DOES have.

Has anyone kicked out their teenager? Is that what I need to do? Therapy won't work - she refuses to go.
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Old 2nd January 2008, 2:46 PM   #2
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I SO feel for you ! I was thinking of starting my own thread about my 14 yr old.

She now refuses to go to school, has an older BF, does drugs and walks out the door whenever she feels like it, and comes home whenever she feels like THAT.

I can't kick out a 14 yr old, so I am looking into different programs. Call your county mental health services, or juvenile justice or whoever, and find out what legal rights and resources you have.

Good luck and keep posting !
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Old 2nd January 2008, 2:55 PM   #3
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Mom, first let me tell you how sorry I am you're going through this. My daughter put me through it from 14-17. She's in the Job Corps program right now, where she finished high school and she's learning a career trade and, thank goodness, it's working out really well for her. It's been a rough one and, come May, when she turns 18, I will rest easy.

Now that I've told you I've walked in shoes similar to yours, let me give you my perspective. You have two choices:

1.) You can kick her out and you don't even have to kick her out to do it - you can emancipate her instead. In fact, that was one of the things that prompted my daughter to choose Job Corps: I told her we would move back to Michigan (where we're from) so I could emancipate her and told her we were doing it at the end of August (last year). She left for Job Corps the last week of July. Emancipation means they are adults in the eyes of the law and you would no longer be responsible for her or her behavior.

2,) You can choose (and you do have choices) let her and the baby stay and let her grow up a little bit (she really isn't THAT mature, is she?), take the brunt of her work load off of her shoulders and help her with the baby, and endure it for a couple more years.

And, mom, there's someone in her life who helps her feel entitled; it's a two-way street. And that someone needs to change their behavior or start giving her everything she feels entitled to. KWIM?

Regardless, time is on your side. They DO turn 18, eventually.

Let us know how it goes.
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Old 2nd January 2008, 3:02 PM   #4
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I have seen this a lot when I was growing up. I guess it was just that kind of neighborhood.

I left home before I finished high school and had many conflicts with my mother. While I didn't get pregnant, many of my friends did.

I've only seen two things happen with problematic teen age mom's and conflicts with their families.

1. You have defined rock bottom for them. It is a hard position to be in, but has the wonderful quality of giving someone no choice but to work up and become responsible and self reliant. They end up realizing what you did for them and how badly they needed the wake up call.

2. They find a way to get by, but barely. Their quality of life is never very rewarding and their children suffer the burden of having a poor example to live up to. Most of the times it went this way, the teen mom was also a child who suffered this same burden by their parental example.
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Old 2nd January 2008, 3:04 PM   #5
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She is the most ungrateful, unpleasant person I've ever known.
And you made her. She is your creation.

She's only 16.... how could all this have happened in such little time. Spend more time with your daughter, give her the attention she needs and deserves. She's *YOU*.. once you understand that, things will be easier.
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Old 2nd January 2008, 3:16 PM   #6
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A month ago, while her child was WITH her, she was caught trying to shoplife from a dept. store. Now "I" have to pay $100 for HER willfully doing wrong.
Sorry, I am old-school here, but why would you pay her $100 fine?

Mom, you are enabling the bad behavior by bailing her out.

As harsh as this sounds, she needs to take responsibility for her rotten decisions. She will never do this if you constantly make things right.

If you are caring for the baby, then let the chips fall where they may.

Good luck--they do eventually grow up and become wonderful.
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Old 2nd January 2008, 6:05 PM   #7
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Sorry, I am old-school here, but why would you pay her $100 fine?

Mom, you are enabling the bad behavior by bailing her out.

As harsh as this sounds, she needs to take responsibility for her rotten decisions. She will never do this if you constantly make things right.

If you are caring for the baby, then let the chips fall where they may.

Good luck--they do eventually grow up and become wonderful.
I don't know if it is bailing her out since she is 16 the mother is unfortunately responsible for whatever crazy chaos this child wants to cause. the good news here is this is your youngest, meaning the last one you have to raise.
i do feel your pain original poster, I have a seventeen year old son who gives me a hard time, not like your daughter does you but i do feel your pain . as you know you are not alone.

If your daughter is not getting any better , and I know you love your grand daughter maybe discuss you becoming a legal guardian of your grand daughter , that way you dont have to worry about your daughter dragging your grandchild into crazy situations. that way when she turns 18 tell her to get out . when she straightenes out or when she hits her bottom she will come to you for help , and i think that is when she can be helped. right now she thinks the world revolves around her , and it does because she has made it this way . I am a firm believer that kids will be who they are , it isnt all the parents fault. youhang in there, focus on your grandchild for now that will keep you strong.
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Old 2nd January 2008, 6:12 PM   #8
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I don't know if it is bailing her out since she is 16 the mother is unfortunately responsible for whatever crazy chaos this child wants to cause.
I am wondering if her daughter has a part-time job, and who is footing the bills for the baby. If the daughter has a part-time job than she should be able to pay her fine, not her mother.

I am very sympathetic to the OP, as I know how hard it is to raise kids. I don't know what it is, but my daughter was the tough one in my family too.
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Old 2nd January 2008, 6:38 PM   #9
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hey her daughter did get pregnant at like 14 or 15 or something I mean the mother should have been watching out for her. Were your other children boys? maybe you only know how to raise men. On a more posotive note try joining a suport group for mothers in your situation maybe they will have good advice on what they did to get on the right path. Or you could get a live in nanny type person like in that show charles in charge
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Old 3rd January 2008, 11:25 AM   #10
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Thanks for all your replies.

First to respond to the words that stung - she got pregnant at 14. Barely 14. Gave birth at 14. Where was I? I was there...not oblivious, but had talked and talked to her about sex, about birth control, her response was always "I don't need birth control, I'm not having sex." Until I caught the father of her baby, a 16-year-old, in her room. When we went to the doc for birth control, we were told she was pregnant. Devastating. But, I look at my grandson now and can't imagine my life without him.

No, she doesn't work - she's still in high school. I foot the bills. I work two jobs to foot the bills, actually, and she shows absolutely no appreciation of her mother ALLOWING her to keep her baby, much less for working my butt off to keep us afloat. That's why I have to pay the $100. I've garnished her allowance, however, to pay the $100, and she's highly ticked off at that. After all, she intended to go SHOPPING, she says and its not fair for me to take her allowance.

She's shown zero remorse for the shoplifting. Court is on Monday. I'm hoping the judge allows me the chance to speak.
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Old 3rd January 2008, 11:30 AM   #11
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Just curious here. If the judge allows you to speak what will you say?
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Old 3rd January 2008, 11:34 AM   #12
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I plan to ask for some court-ordered counseling, for her, AND us. And to request that if she's required to do community service, that it be something where she sees first hand where bad choices and not taking responsbility for one's actions gets you.
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Old 3rd January 2008, 11:40 AM   #13
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I plan to ask for some court-ordered counseling, for her, AND us. And to request that if she's required to do community service, that it be something where she sees first hand where bad choices and not taking responsbility for one's actions gets you.
Good for you, I hope that the court asks for you to speak.
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Old 3rd January 2008, 11:41 AM   #14
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I plan to ask for some court-ordered counseling, for her, AND us. And to request that if she's required to do community service, that it be something where she sees first hand where bad choices and not taking responsbility for one's actions gets you.
That's excellent!

And hang in there. She'll grow up and one day she'll appreciate everything you're now doing for her. Don't worry about her seeming to be ungrateful now. Just keep being the good parent you seem to be.
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Is there any reason that she can't get a part-time job even though she is in high school, which I think is terrific that she is lucky enough to have your support to continue school.
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