That's completely untrue. I know many people think it is, because I've had interviews with people who have mistaken my unwillingness to be bossy and macho as not being confident. But there are people who don't have that opinion. If you're good at your job, you can succeed without being an *sshole or a b*tch.
Most carreer women and men are just not very good at leading people. And they adopt the shortcut techniques....arrogance, being bossy, contempt for others etc. You cant learn to be a leader in some seminar. So basically there are a few good bosses and even less female ones.
My personal experience is that average female boss is better than average male boss. But it is mainly because I dont need them to manage my work. And when problems come bad male bosses tend to shout and bad female bosses tend to cry. And both of them try to avoid responsibility.
And of course I prefer female bosses because I am a tall (my guess) man and therofe some male bosses take it really bad.
And I can convince females quite easily. Males tend to be suspicious or want to show me its gonna be their way not the way I suggested. I dont use female bosses for personal benefits but I guess it could be dangerous as Ive seen female bosses being manipulated for ulterior motives.
Even when you are not a**hole you have to be strict, take no prisoners etc. in order to be sucessful - depending how much cut throat your business is. And this attitude can show in private.
The difference for men is that we dont have to change that much when we leave office or army barracks and go on date. But feminine behaviour is totaly different. So it shows more.
__________________ "See, there's three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and as*holes"
Last edited by DanielMadr; 7th November 2009 at 9:13 PM..
Guys, are all of you writing this into the future from the '50s? Any woman who has a career might as well be a man? It sounds like something my grandfather would say! I have a career, I'm a writer. I love what I do. I went to school to do it, I've worked hard, and I think it makes me an interesting person. I don't think it makes me contemptuous of others, or arrogant, or bossy. My best female friend makes a living as a musician -- does her career make her a "man with boobs?" She's one of the kindest, most compassionate human beings I've ever met.
Are you really saying that any woman who educates herself and pursues her own dreams is emasculating to you!??
Guys, are all of you writing this into the future from the '50s? Any woman who has a career might as well be a man? It sounds like something my grandfather would say! I have a career, I'm a writer. I love what I do. I went to school to do it, I've worked hard, and I think it makes me an interesting person. I don't think it makes me contemptuous of others, or arrogant, or bossy. My best female friend makes a living as a musician -- does her career make her a "man with boobs?" She's one of the kindest, most compassionate human beings I've ever met.
Are you really saying that any woman who educates herself and pursues her own dreams is emasculating to you!??
First they are not emasculating they are just not attractive.
Second we are speaking about career in jobs other than creative or scientific - you dont need manly traits there to succeed.
First they are not emasculating they are just not attractive.
Second we are speaking about career in jobs other than creative or scientific - you dont need manly traits there to succeed.
HA ha ha ha ha ha...oh sheesh. This is just silly!! Have you ever been a female scientist? Because I can certainly get my microbiologist friend's opinion on whether she ever has to compete with men for research grants. While we're at it, I can get my musician friend's opinion on what it takes to get guys to let you play bass in their rockabilly band. And if you'd like to hear a few stories of my and other female writers' work being dismissed by male editors and reviewers, just let me know.
Oh, and the microbiologist is also a stunning bellydancer. I can ask some guys if they find her attractive or not! I'm sure when they're watching her undulate they're thinking how sexy she'd be if she weren't a microbiologist!
I'm really wondering what planet all this madness comes from. Until you've had a vagina and tried to get a job, you really don't know what you're talking about!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielMadr
Some serious psychological illnesses like schizophrenia can develop if child is exposed to some bad influences at that time. It is crucial to 4y of age and continues up to 6.
From 4 to 6 a father could take it though.
Schizophrenia is a biological illness. If you're going to have it, you're going to have it. I recommend the book "Surviving Schizophrenia" by E. Fuller Torrey if you'd like an accurate picture of the brain science behind the illness.
Last edited by sedgwick; 8th November 2009 at 10:38 AM..
HA ha ha ha ha ha...oh sheesh. This is just silly!! Have you ever been a female scientist? Because I can certainly get my microbiologist friend's opinion on whether she ever has to compete with men for research grants. While we're at it, I can get my musician friend's opinion on what it takes to get guys to let you play bass in their rockabilly band. And if you'd like to hear a few stories of my and other female writers' work being dismissed by male editors and reviewers, just let me know.
Oh, and the microbiologist is also a stunning bellydancer. I can ask some guys if they find her attractive or not! I'm sure when they're watching her undulate they're thinking how sexy she'd be if she weren't a microbiologist!
I'm really wondering what planet all this madness comes from. Until you've had a vagina and tried to get a job, you really don't know what you're talking about!!!
.
Oh, no, with the gender inequality again. Let me remind everybody that discrimination on the basis of sex has been illegal for half an effin century (and sued as such in the occasions it does occur)!
The reverse discrimination is not a problem, apparently. My department is interviewing women candidates that are less qualified than the male applications we recieved, just because they are worried that the professional association in the field will be on our azz for not paying enough attention to "diversity".
The "the boys won't let me play because I'm a woman" shpiel is the most irritating of all, and one of the reasons 'career women' get a bad rap. Well, the boys don't care if you have a vagina or not, as long as you simply do your darn job and don't make a big deal out of it - like the rest of us.
Oh, no, with the gender inequality again. Let me remind everybody that discrimination on the basis of sex has been illegal for half an effin century (and sued as such in the occasions it does occur)!
Do you get it that this is exactly like a white person saying black people don't really face discrimination, and that if they do they can just sue? Like now that you've let 'em ride the bus, they've got nothing to complain about?
And I have to say the phrase "career women" is cracking me up. It's so 40-years-ago. Why don't we talk about consciousness-raising and women's lib while we're at it? Maybe we could have a rap session! Hold on a minute while I go change into my Mary Tyler Moore costume.
Last edited by sedgwick; 8th November 2009 at 12:37 PM..
HA ha ha ha ha ha...oh sheesh. This is just silly!! Have you ever been a female scientist? Because I can certainly get my microbiologist friend's opinion on whether she ever has to compete with men for research grants. While we're at it, I can get my musician friend's opinion on what it takes to get guys to let you play bass in their rockabilly band. And if you'd like to hear a few stories of my and other female writers' work being dismissed by male editors and reviewers, just let me know.
Oh, and the microbiologist is also a stunning bellydancer. I can ask some guys if they find her attractive or not! I'm sure when they're watching her undulate they're thinking how sexy she'd be if she weren't a microbiologist!
I'm really wondering what planet all this madness comes from. Until you've had a vagina and tried to get a job, you really don't know what you're talking about!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by sedgwick
Do you get it that this is exactly like a white person saying black people don't really face discrimination, and that if they do they can just sue? Like now that you've let 'em ride the bus, they've got nothing to complain about?
And I have to say the phrase "career women" is cracking me up. It's so 40-years-ago. Why don't we talk about consciousness-raising and women's lib while we're at it? Maybe we could have a rap session! Hold on a minute while I go change into my Mary Tyler Moore costume.
And you wonder why men are not attracted to women like you. Who wants to deal with this sort of estrogen overload on a daily basis?
Do you get it that this is exactly like a white person saying black people don't really face discrimination, and that if they do they can just sue? Like now that you've let 'em ride the bus, they've got nothing to complain about?
And I have to say the phrase "career women" is cracking me up. It's so 40-years-ago. Why don't we talk about consciousness-raising and women's lib while we're at it? Maybe we could have a rap session! Hold on a minute while I go change into my Mary Tyler Moore costume.
I do get it, but the solution to the problem, if there is one, certainly isn't to promote under qualified people because of their skin color or gender (or as is typically the case - settle for the good enough candidate instead of the best one, because we need a diversity hire).
The phrase career women cracks me up as well. It is typically brought by women who consider themselves career women and expect special treatment (on the job, and of), simply for doing what they are supposed to do. As far as I am concerned, everybody has work and relationship responsibilities and should pay enough attention to both.
Please note: The suggestions and advice offered on this web site are opinions only and are not to be used in the place of professional psychological counseling or medical advice. If you or someone close to you is currently in crisis or in an emergency situation, contact your local law enforcement agency or emergency number.
- like the rest of us.
Hybrid Mode
