[TaraMaiden]

you talkin' to me?

A person who spent 43 years in the Catholic faith, nearly joined an order of nuns, and studied theology?
You talkin' to me?

Meh...!

I wasn't defining the word 'Faith' as per a dictionary...I was defining the word faith as per its usage when discussing fact and fiction.

But ok, I'll play your game.....

Originally Posted by mbeewood

Reason and faith are not mutually exclusive, and that is where you fail epically. You don't even know what the true definition of faith here. Here, let me help you.

faith 

–noun 1.confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.

The 'faith' used in the bible and throughout christian history has always been 'trust in God.' It has never meant 'blind belief' or 'belief in something without evidence.' That's just what nonbelievers have tried to change it to to make religious people look stupid or gullible.

we don't need to make them 'try' to look like anything. They do a pretty good job of it themselves....
Odd you should use the word 'trust'...it bears me out......

Ok, my go.....

From the Greater Oxford English Dictionary 35th Edition:

trust
• noun 1 firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone or something. 2 acceptance of the truth of a statement without evidence or investigation.

and as a verb:

• verb 1: have trust in. 2: (trust with) have the confidence to allow (someone) to have, use, or look after. 3: (trust to) commit (someone or something) to the safekeeping of. 4: (trust, to) place reliance on (luck, fate, etc.). 5 have confidence; hope: I trust that you have enjoyed this book.

So actually, I was absolutely spot-on....

The fact is, 'reason' does not contradict christian belief in any way shape or form, and you really need to get more educated in this subject before you start making posts on the internet and trying to act like some philosopher.

Reason is in essence, the very thing which flies in the face of religious zealots. It's something which they find deeply threatening and disturbing.....

[mbeeewood]

Originally Posted by TaraMaiden

you talkin' to me?

A person who spent 43 years in the Catholic faith, nearly joined an order of nuns, and studied theology?
You talkin' to me?


I wasn't defining the word 'Faith' as per a dictionary...I was defining the word faith as per its usage when discussing fact and fiction.

But ok, I'll play your game.....



we don't need to make them 'try' to look like anything. They do a pretty good job of it themselves....
Odd you should use the word 'trust'...it bears me out......

Ok, my go.....

From the Greater Oxford English Dictionary 35th Edition: trust
• noun 1 firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone or something. 2 acceptance of the truth of a statement without evidence or investigation.

That definition of faith has nothing to do with religion, so then why is the OP and everyone else here discussing religion in a topic that has nothing to do with religion?

Reason is in essence, the very thing which flies in the face of religious zealots. It's something which they find deeply threatening and disturbing.....

This thread is not about "religious zealots"

[TaraMaiden]

It has everything to do with Religion.
At least, my religion. Unless you're going to tell me my religion isn't a religion at all.

The title of the thread is "Faith vs Reason: Which is more important in your life?"

The two in my religion, are synonymous.
I have Faith (confidence) in my religion, precisely because we use Reason, not Hope, to follow it.