Lack of sympathy from women towards men is very disturbing.

[Caius Ballad]

One thing that disturbs me on this forum is the fact not ONE female showed any sympathy towards mens struggles in life. If a man is insecure women automatically view him as inferior for breeding rather than A HUMAN WITH PROBLEMS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. If a man lives with his parents like in that other dudes topic again women DON'T VIEW YOU AS A HUMAN WITH PROBLEMS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. This is what I meant by women enslaving men without using force. A guy can't even express his emotions without women and mangina groups calling him a complainer

 

Most women have no problem telling skinny guys they're skinny and won't date you. Women ignore the fact that many thin guys are hard gainers. Most women will never even open a damn book reading about what an ectomorph male is. Instead women will coldly tell you that as a man you need to put on 50-70 pounds of meat just so it can make HER feel feminine. Even if the SKinny guy doesn't already workout keeping in good health again the female will enforce her ideals of male roles and beauty on you.

 

Because of this I question rather or not female in general can love and feel sympathy to the high degree men do. Honestly, I think women manipulate men into believing women have those traits. I think women have more of a greedy animal child like mind. Thousands of years of searching for alpha males and never doing real hunters work MUST have some connection to the female mind today. Maybe women evolved to be a mix of child/animal/manipulator in order to survive in our modern society.

[Balzac]

Is it possible you meant empathy? Why would you seek sympathy just because you are a man?

[sid3]

Is it possible you meant empathy? Why would you seek sympathy just because you are a man?

 

maybe its the apathy he finds disturbing.

[lamaman3]

Do you sympathize with a woman who happens to be morbidly obese? My guess is you would have no problem saying you would never date such a woman. Im not sure why you think womens can control what they are attracted to any more than u can.

 

The difference is that if a woman is born with a face looking like horse, she will prob be judged and ridiculed by men her whole life with nothing she can do about it except plastic surgery.

 

A fat, skinny, or ugly man can still attract respect and women through other qualities such as humor, confidence, p professional success etc.

[udolipixie]

Lack of sympathy from gals towards guys isn't disturbing nor surprising to me nor is vice versa.

 

It's not a fact that on this forum not one gal showed any sympathy towards guy's struggles. It's different experiences that you haven't encountered such. On this forum I've encountered many gals showing sympathy towards guys struggles in general and many gals showing sympathy towards a particular guys struggle.

 

Some gals automatically view an insecure guy as inferior and some don't. I didn't see any gals in the thread you mentioned not viewing guys as a human with problems like everybody else. The gals either viewed the guy as dating material or not and to me not seeing someone as dating material isn't necessarily not seeing them as a human it's not being attracted to them.

 

Many guys do express their emotions without being called a complainer. In the cases where a guy is called a complainer perhaps it's the amount or the way he expressed it as it seems many guys can't express their issues without spewing hate, bitterness, resentment, and biased gender stereotypes. Though often times a guy can say quite a bit of hateful bias skewed things and it be considered 'the truth' & 'honest criticism' as when it comes to negatives about gals there seems to be quite a bit of leeway until it's considered hateful.

 

As for the gals not wanting to date thin guys that's attraction and whether he's a hard gainer is irrelevant the end point is he's not attractive to her. I don't see many guys dating gals who are unattractive to them because she can't help it. Many guys don't seem to care that a gal can't turn back time and be younger the end point is she's not attractive to him. To me not wanting to date someone or not being attracted to someone isn't not viewing them as human.

 

As for question whether or not gals in general can love and feel love and feel sympathy to the high degree guys can that's a toss up. Though from my experiences in my country, America, I'm not seeing high love and sympathy towards gals from guys. Seems like guys love gal's bodies not gals as many have a default disrespect for gals and either a hateful, bitter, or resentment attitude towards gals. Seems like guys have no to little sympathy for gals in general as the meme for many guys seems to be 'shut up you have a vagina you have no problems' as gals have it so easy in everything.

 

As for gals have more of a greedy animal child like mind I think that's human beings in general. It's may be possible that gals evolved to be a mix of child/animal/manipulator in order to survive in modern society. Seems gals often tend to be valued for their youth/beauty fading traits, that they are considered attractive things while guys are human beings, defaulted with negatives (parasites, leeches), and looked upon as inferior, worthless, or useless other than for sex.

[Radu]

Bottom line, empathy is lacking.

 

Could be that the ones we see as potential mothers showing little empathy has a more profound effect.

 

Women being more manipulative than men is rooted in our biology though afaik.

Moms tell us guys to be carefull of girls because they know something.

[zengirl]

Personally I think your thesis is flawed in many ways, but especially this:

 

Most women have no problem telling skinny guys they're skinny and won't date you. Women ignore the fact that many thin guys are hard gainers. Most women will never even open a damn book reading about what an ectomorph male is. Instead women will coldly tell you that as a man you need to put on 50-70 pounds of meat just so it can make HER feel feminine. Even if the SKinny guy doesn't already workout keeping in good health again the female will enforce her ideals of male roles and beauty on you.

 

I see far less gals on this forum complaining about skinny guys than guys complaining about fat women.

 

I also know many 'ectomorph' and skinny guys who do just fine with dating, though yes, everyone (male and female) has their physical preferences. C'est la vie. I don't ask for sympathy or empathy if someone isn't attracted to me --- none is needed for something like that, it's not exactly a wound, it's just life.

 

At any rate: Many men have received sympathy and empathy on this site, as have many women. Many men and women have received lessened sympathy, but it's mostly their own attitudes if a multitude of people react to them that way. I'm sure many people would have sympathy for any kind people who struggle with dating, but if you show yourself as a misogynist/misandrist, a whiner, entitled, angry, etc, people are going to lose empathy and sympathy, regardless of gender. That's just how life works -- when you act like an *******, people don't sympathize.

[udolipixie]

Women being more manipulative than men is rooted in our biology though afaik.

Moms tell us guys to be carefull of girls because they know something.

There's no scientific research stating, suggesting, or implying gals are more manipulative than guys or that it's rooted in biology afaik.

 

By your logic as mothers, fathers, and society often tells gals to be careful of guys the male gender may be more manipulative.

[Eternal Sunshine]

oh brother.

[d'Arthez]

I don't know much about OP, but I'd strongly suggest he'd get some therapy to deal with his anger and hatred for the female sex.

[Radu]

There's no scientific research stating, suggesting, or implying gals are more manipulative than guys or that it's rooted in biology afaik.

 

By your logic as mothers, fathers, and society often tells gals to be careful of guys the male gender may be more manipulative.

 

 

Evolutionary psychology or ask any impartial lawyer/mental health specialist.

 

I don't know much about OP' date=' but I'd strongly suggest he'd get some therapy to deal with his anger and hatred for the female sex.[/quote']

 

It does seem he opened a lot of anti-female gender threads.

[sally4sara]

I don't have a lack of empathy for other people. I do have sympathy for the people who are burdened with having to deal with the various flavors of bigotry in this world.

 

I have a lack of empathy for hateful whiners. Especially ones who have zero empathy for people they've never even met over stupid **** like what gender/color/sexual orientation/physical condition they were born with. The OP perpetually shines as an example of this kind of person, either because he is such a person or wants people to be riled up over believing he is such a person. Either way, I'll go even further to say I suspect the world would be a better place without people like the OP being inflicted on the general population.

[udolipixie]

Evolutionary psychology or ask any impartial lawyer/mental health specialist.

I've done so.

 

None of the impartial lawyers/mental health specialists stated such. Nor did the evolutionary psychology that is supported by scientific research rather than theories based on intrepretations of assumptions and guesses.

 

I have heard such from many theory based evolutionary psychologists and partial lawyers/mental health specialists unable to provide scientific research just unfounded and unsupported theories of possibilities.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Great posts Udolipixie.

[Ross MwcFan]

I've experienced sympathy from women on the board. And I see plenty of women on here trying to help men and give them advice.

 

Seems like they care to me.

[zengirl]

I don't know much about OP' date=' but I'd strongly suggest he'd get some therapy to deal with his anger and hatred for the female sex.[/quote']

 

Seriously. I really don't think the biggest problem he's running into is women not liking skinny guys.

[William]

Who else wants a vacation? Topic folks, topic, and no member-specific discussion.

[Kamille]

I would like the OP to point me to one of his own previous posts where he clearly shows empathy towards women.

[threebyfate]

Caius, have you ever opened a book and read about the Karpman Drama Triangle? The excerpt that fits best from the enclosed descriptive blog, in context of this thread would be:

 

Starting Gate Persecutors (SGP), on the other hand, identify themselves primarily as victims. They are usually in complete denial about their blaming tactics. When it is pointed out to them, they argue that attack is warranted and necessary for self protection.

 

Based on how some male members literally spam LS with their misogynistic propaganda, it's no surprise that with these specific members, they garner no compassion or sympathy from female members.

 

Most of the female membership have bled compassion and empathy all over LS, only to have it rudely shoved back into their faces. Case in point, this thread.

 

You're right, we're sick and tired of whiners who play victim.

Edited May 24, 2012 by threebyfate

[carhill]

OP, having been here awhile, I often read anecdotes of empathy and sympathy from female members and have been the recipient of such on a number of occasions over the years, ostensibly at a rate far higher than in real life. Does that rise to the level of a generality? Perhaps not, and I would say the same thing regarding unsympathetic and unempathetic behaviors and postings as well. LS, like life, is a mixed bag. We each have choices in how we perceive life and react to it. I wish you well in those choices.

[Woggle]

Plenty of women on here have shown me loads of empathy. I know there is a small number that seems to get a kick out of thinking of men as lower than dirt but it is very small. I let it get to me sometimes but we really shouldn't let it bother us. I have been having my issues for six years and many women here have given me a ton of support.