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Where does a bright lass go to find clever people? I have some ideas but I'm always open to more...

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YOU ASK: "Where does a bright lass go to find clever people?"

 

That's a good question. There are a lot of very clever men who fall short in many other areas. If you're just looking for a clever person, going to a MENSA meeting would do the trick.

 

If you're looking for an interesting partner who is clever and also kind, thoughtful, generous, openminded, forgiving, caring, communicative, emotionally and financially stable, etc., I think you can find them just about anywhere....once every five years or so....and then you have to hope they aren't taken.

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Gosh, thanks. Mighty helpful, you are. Just made my day, you did.

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Originally posted by moimeme

Gosh, thanks. Mighty helpful, you are. Just made my day, you did.

 

Yoda? Is that you?

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If I were Yoda, answering questions rather than asking them wouldn't I be?

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Originally posted by moimeme

Where does a bright lass go to find clever people? I have some ideas but I'm always open to more...

 

 

[color=darkred]Well, I will have to stick to something my parents told me many moons ago. If you want to find pretty decent people, the bars are sure not a place to do it. The best place I've found is a singles group in a local church. The people there aren't perfect (though some try), but at least they realize that and are making an effort to better themselves. I've met many a clever person in church.

 

:bunny: Drew :bunny: [/color]

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what's with the idea that there're no clever people in bars? don't you all go to bars and clubs, too? and you're smart, right?

 

one reason to meet someone at a club would be - if you like to go out dancing, and they're in a club, chances are you got one thing in common already. i guess same goes for if you're christian, and meeting someone in a christian singles group...

 

-yes

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Originally posted by moimeme

If I were Yoda, answering questions rather than asking them wouldn't I be?

 

*snort* :bunny::bunny:

 

As for clever people -- well, there are clever people everywhere - what are your hobbies & interests? Maybe some volunteer work will bring you into contact with more people and increase your chances of meeting more clever people.

 

What about a course at college? Or a leisure learning course in something that interests you? How about teaching a course in something that you enjoy - my husband teaches a leisure learning course for amateur videographers, and I teach one in word processing/digital publishing. I am starting a scrapbooking course next month - I want to learn how to do that. I'm sure that will be mostly women, and I may make some new friends.

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YOU WRITE: "what's with the idea that there're no clever people in bars?"

 

I'm quite sure there are clever people in bars but with the noise of chatter and music and the various levels of alcohol consumption, it's extremely hard to tell if people are interesting or not.

 

I personally don't want to ever base my initial interest in a person on the fact that what I know we have in common is that we are both in a bar.

 

Now, don't get me wrong. I have nothing against bars and dance clubs. But the only way you really get to know something about the person is to have them meet you a few days later, during the day when both of you are fully sober. That makes it pot luck, more of less.

 

Odds are better I'll meet the girl of my dreams at a Bus Station. I like buses and they don't dull your cleverness.

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Originally posted by yes

what's with the idea that there're no clever people in bars? don't you all go to bars and clubs, too? and you're smart, right?

 

one reason to meet someone at a club would be - if you like to go out dancing, and they're in a club, chances are you got one thing in common already.

 

[color=darkred]The problem with bars and alcohol (at least in my area), is that people tend to be a lot different drunk than they are sober. You can meet someone clever at a bar and find them to be a total flake outside because they are sober. My area has nothing BUT bars and I haven't met anyone worth dating from a bar yet. I'm sure there are really good people in there, but sometimes its not worth wading through all the garbage to find them.

 

:bunny: Drew :bunny:[/color]

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I should clarify. Tony suggested to the intelligent artsy person in another thread that she'd have more trouble finding a fellow because she needs a bright one. He suggested there were spots such fellows might be found. I was just wondering if he or anybody had any new tricks up their sleeves.

 

Thanks for the caveats about bars, but I really wasn't planning to go hunting in them. I might resort to a political group or maybe a volunteer organization of some sort. Church groups can be good, but sometimes you have to weed through the super-moralists. I'm a principled person but not inclined to think I ought to impose my values on every other human and there are a goodly portion of church group types who don't share that belief.

 

I do appreciate everyone's ideas!

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hmm, if they're drunk, i simply wouldn't go near them! and i guess i meant bars more than clubs - more sober people in there. i, for e.g. almost never drink in clubs, and i know lots of people who're like me. But i totally agree that hanging out with drunk strangers is as useless as can be!

 

-yes

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Well, I have found for the most part, you can't find anyone of substance at a bar. Its loud, people have been drinking, and well, really, most people are just lookin for someone to take home.

 

However, the most facinating person I've met, I met at a bar. LOL So I guess there are exceptions to the rules. However, he was with friends of mine and I sorta knew him anyway. So I guess it really doesn't count.

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I don't think that there is anything wrong with picking up in a bar. Your chances of finding someone uniquely suited to you is just as good/bad in a pub as in a church group - both will attract great people and weirdos alike. I personally don't know any person who attends church that I would classify as 'clever'.

 

I live in Australia so there is a pub on every corner. The key is to pick the drinking hole that best suits you, as each is different in its own way, and attracts a different crowd. I met my current boyfriend at a bar I regularly go to after work. We had lots in common - both professionals who worked in the city, enjoyed drinks out with friends, and were in the same social class. We've been seeing each other for over a year now and i couldn't be happier. I must agree with Ally though. At the time I was just looking for someone to 'take home'. Then the bastard grew on me! In any case, i don't think that going to bars and hanging out with drunk people is 'useles' - some of the best times of my life have been spent with mates at the pub.

 

And as for yes, I would agree that most people who go to clubs don't drink... are you aware that they are consuming something else instead?

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1. "I personally don't know any person who attends church that I would classify as 'clever'."

 

You're wrong there. In America, the people who start the churches make millions of dollars, especially if they broadcast on TV and ask for contributions. Pretty clever, I'd say!

 

2. "I live in Australia so there is a pub on every corner."

 

So you have never been to a pub in America??? Very few clever people there, sober anyway. That's why clever and never rhyme.

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Ahh, moimeme, think like a hunter you must. If you were intelligent, artsy, and clever, where would you go?

Perhaps a modern art museum. A rare book library. Even a They Might Be Giants concert. It's not a typical spot to meet a guy, but if you strike up a conversation with someone it's a good bet it'll be intellectually stimulating. But if you're looking in the average places, like bars, clubs, or even churches, you are going to find a lot of average people.

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Jorobot, first let me disabuse you of the idea that I would even think to go 'hunting' in bars. Not gonna happen. Churches - I've already said my piece; probably nice people but one has to weed through the holier-than-anybody-not-Christian types.

 

Anyway, I've set myself an even more daunting task. I want to find a fellow who is wise. Not maybe a guru of my own, but at least someone who has pretty well figured out how the world operates. And can handle it. I've also had my fill of insecure fellows who are constantly dwelling on the nature of their insecurity. It's one thing to not feel like the king of the heap but quite another to constantly peer into your own navel rather than being concerned about other folks.

 

So I'm thinking I'll have to comb the halls of schools of philosophy maybe. Psychologists and counsellors might be interesting, but many of them go into the business because they had big probs of their own to start with. (I've had a couple as friends).

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