You'reasian Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Tell us guys which kinds you like and why?
shadowplay Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 The ultimate fail is growing them yourself and doing the arrangements personally. BTDT. TBH, my experience (and being much older) aligns with Wog's. Sorry Why is that fail? Sounds romantic.
threebyfate Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Tell us guys which kinds you like and why? I appreciate flowers of any kind. Even a posy full of wild buttercups are sweet!
You'reasian Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 I appreciate flowers of any kind. Even a posy full of wild buttercups are sweet! And what of wild, plate-sized sunflowers? bluebonnets? indian paint brushes? violets? hyacinth? bottle brush?
Woggle Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Why is that fail? Sounds romantic. It is fail because despite the effort he put into it his woman still turned on him. This is why I never send my wife flowers and I won't this valentines day. She might get a special edition kit kat though.
threebyfate Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Don't care. But I do draw the line at dandelions and the Rafflesia family of flowers!
Pyro Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Pyro, it's just more troll behaviour. In throwing out the gauntlet, he puts the onus on women to prove him wrong otherwise. It gets him the attention he craves from women, he retains control of women who try to rebutt, since he puts them on the defensive and proves his ability to be a playah, since he can treat women like crap and they flock. So that's why he does this. Flowers are beautiful and always appreciated. Yup. Its all about getting attention.
carhill Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Why is that fail? Sounds romantic. Honestly, because it comes off feminine and/or gay. Remember, with women, it's how they feel, not think, which drives attraction. I'm hearing in this thread what women think. I'm not sticking with Wog's because we're bro's or something. I've had long experience with this, way back into my early 20's. I even make my own potpourri for the house. Right now, wormwood, lavendula and rosemarinus prostratus are what is on tap. Add a few cinnamon sticks and warm on the stove.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Yup. Most men who have been through it deep down know I am right. Wrong again! My boyfriend is divorced because his wife left him, he found out after they were separated that she had been cheating on him as well. She filed for divorce, she left him out in the cold, and put him through the ringer financially. For the first 6 months after she left him she would not even let him see his own children. He spent thousands upon thousands of dollars just to gain his parental rights back and had to financially start from scratch again. It took him 4 years to get emotionally at a level where he could even function again in terms of relationships and dating. And yet he still sends flowers, he is still super attentive, loving, extremely generous and communicative and you tell me that once a man has been burned he will not do anything for a woman ever again? I can understand being burned is hard to overcome but if you never overcome that it's your choice. If you are an immature and cannot differentiate between what ONE person has done to you and the rest of the world, then yes you are right you will never ever get past your perceptions, and you will only attract people who will do you wrong. Some of you men really need to grow up. Or stay single and alone, you have no business being with women. Flowers is a nice gesture, just like getting him a gift just because, or sending him love notes, or making him a batch of his favorite cookies is also a nice gesture yet that doesn't guarantee he will always be faithful to you or even next to you for that matter.
shadowplay Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 It is fail because despite the effort he put into it his woman still turned on him. This is why I never send my wife flowers and I won't this valentines day. She might get a special edition kit kat though. You're acting as though if flowers actually "worked" they would ensure a woman never treated you badly again. It's a nice gesture, but it's not going to solve all the problems in a relationship. Besides that's not he point. You send flowers to a woman to express your affection for her, not to get something in return.
threebyfate Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Yup. Its all about getting attention.I read your post about enjoying giving flowers. Somehow, it didn't surprise me, given your positive character. She's one lucky lady!
Woggle Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Wrong again! My boyfriend is divorced because his wife left him, he found out after they were separated that she had been cheating on him as well. She filed for divorce, she left him out in the cold, and put him through the ringer financially. For the first 6 months after she left him she would not even let him see his own children. He spent thousands upon thousands of dollars just to gain his parental rights back and had to financially start from scratch again. It took him 4 years to get emotionally at a level where he could even function again in terms of relationships and dating. And yet he still sends flowers, he is still super attentive, loving, extremely generous and communicative and you tell me that once a man has been burned he will not do anything for a woman ever again? I can understand being burned is hard to overcome but if you never overcome that it's your choice. If you are an immature and cannot differentiate between what ONE person has done to you and the rest of the world, then yes you are right you will never ever get past your perceptions, and you will only attract people who will do you wrong. Some of you men really need to grow up. Or stay single and alone, you have no business being with women. Flowers is a nice gesture, just like getting him a gift just because, or sending him love notes, or making him a batch of his favorite cookies is also a nice gesture yet that doesn't guarantee he will always be faithful to you or even next to you for that matter. Your boyfriend is a sucker who is going back for more punishment.
allina Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 I'd like to add that my dad still gets my mom flowers, and she is thrilled every time
You'reasian Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Wrong again! My boyfriend is divorced because his wife left him, he found out after they were separated that she had been cheating on him as well. She filed for divorce, she left him out in the cold, and put him through the ringer financially. For the first 6 months after she left him she would not even let him see his own children. He spent thousands upon thousands of dollars just to gain his parental rights back and had to financially start from scratch again. It took him 4 years to get emotionally at a level where he could even function again in terms of relationships and dating. And yet he still sends flowers, he is still super attentive, loving, extremely generous and communicative and you tell me that once a man has been burned he will not do anything for a woman ever again? I can understand being burned is hard to overcome but if you never overcome that it's your choice. If you are an immature and cannot differentiate between what ONE person has done to you and the rest of the world, then yes you are right you will never ever get past your perceptions, and you will only attract people who will do you wrong. Some of you men really need to grow up. Or stay single and alone, you have no business being with women. Flowers is a nice gesture, just like getting him a gift just because, or sending him love notes, or making him a batch of his favorite cookies is also a nice gesture yet that doesn't guarantee he will always be faithful to you or even next to you for that matter. I can agree with this. I've been burned - maybe not too long ago - but I am a very communicative, generous and loving guy and whatever the experience won't stop me from finding a really good, loyal woman
Pyro Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 I read your post about enjoying giving flowers. Somehow, it didn't surprise me, given your positive character. She's one lucky lady! I even got the confirmation from her that she enjoys flowers.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Honestly, because it comes off feminine and/or gay. Remember, with women, it's how they feel, not think, which drives attraction. I'm hearing in this thread what women think. I'm not sticking with Wog's because we're bro's or something. I've had long experience with this, way back into my early 20's. I even make my own potpourri for the house. Right now, wormwood, lavendula and rosemarinus prostratus are what is on tap. Add a few cinnamon sticks and warm on the stove. Well you don't have more experience than what women tell you themselves, do you? Perhaps the women you chose to date did not appreciate the gesture I'll give you that. But when you start to to tell us what we think and like when we are telling you ourselves what we think and like, that's a bit much. It's not gay at all, unless of course you have homosexual insecurities, then that's a bigger issue! For a man to make his own potpourri of flowers from his garden, now that's a pretty gay! I'm just sayin....
allina Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Tell us guys which kinds you like and why? Tulips are one of my favorites
carhill Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 You send flowers to a woman to express your affection for her, not to get something in return. Yes, during my dating years, I grew roses and ferns as well as wildflowers in the orchard. I gave women flowers because it made me feel good doing it. The fail was not correctly discerning the quality of women I was putting my time and energy into. I learned to correctly describe the feeling as 'feeling unappreciated' in MC. It wasn't about getting something in return, like they owed me, but rather expressing appreciation for my thoughts and efforts. It is possible that this is cultural. I found both men and women in Europe and the CIS to be far more receptive and appreciative of such efforts. It was quite normal to stop at the street market to get flowers for friends when traveling. I did it a lot.
thegreatmoose Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 This is why I never send my wife flowers and I won't this valentines day. She might get a special edition kit kat though. You are married are are still this negative about women? Do you want your marriage to last? I'm still looking for a good woman, but I know that it is common sense that at least most women like men who think positively about women. You found what I would assume is a woman you love and are still negative. I don't get your thinking and I don't think I want to get your thinking.
carhill Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 For a man to make his own potpourri of flowers from his garden, now that's a pretty gay! I'm just sayin... I also shoot animals on my property so perhaps your viewpoint is a bit narrow-minded
You'reasian Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Tulips are one of my favorites Why? Do you like amarylis as well?
You'reasian Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 I also shoot animals on my property so perhaps your viewpoint is a bit narrow-minded be gentle here lol
InspiredbyYou Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Your boyfriend is a sucker who is going back for more punishment. If I could take your comments seriously, I would find that highly offensive since you have single-handedly told me that I will end up doing the same things to my man that his ex did to him. However, since your comments are extremely loaded, I'll just smile and move forward.
InspiredbyYou Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 I also shoot animals on my property so perhaps your viewpoint is a bit narrow-minded Gays are hunters too, especially in middle America, they are closeted gays nonetheless....
allina Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Why? Do you like amarylis as well? Yes, I love amaryllis as well. I think both are beautiful flowers, and they make any room look so fresh and bright, just looking at them makes me smile.
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