radwimps Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 kiske, you clearly lack proper social interaction. but yes, in general they do get favoured slightly, but not so extreme like you would put it.
threebyfate Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 Here's a brutally honest breakdown of the opening post. an average to attractive woman between the age of 18 and 35You cannot clump all these women together as getting treated the same way. free booze,Sometimes. free drugs, Have been offered free drugs. No thanks. free VIP treatment at clubs,Agreed since they want to draw the men, the largest consumer of alcohol. Pat my back and I'll pat yours. free backstage passes, Only if you're a groupie. Most women don't bother pursuing this kind of thing. free "A's" at school, Straight up b/s. job offers aplenty despite lack of skills,Insulting and unnecessarily qualifier. If the skills aren't there for professional or skilled labour, it ain't gonna' happen. unlimited sex with whoever they want, Straight up b/s and insulting to boot. hedonism galore,WTF does this mean? free housing, Straight up b/s. and the list goes on and on...Sure, anyone can make up anything they want. It doesn't mean it's true. Now, if you went up to Paris Hilton in public, you would expect her to laugh in your face, right? So what do you expect when you go up to an average looking 25 year old woman, who has been treated like a 'mini-Paris Hilton' her whole life, to do when approached by an ugly to average looking guy?Firstly, what has Paris Hilton, who's dumber than a bag of hammers, have to do with the rest of womanhood? Makes better sense when you look at it that way, doesn't it?Only if you believe in unicorns.
shadowplay Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 kiske, you clearly lack proper social interaction. but yes, in general they do get favoured slightly, but not so extreme like you would put it. I think the problem is that the OP is very sheltered. He doesn't get out of his house much or interact with many women outside a few online forums he frequents that cater to specific subcultures. Given that he's mostly living inside his own head and talking to other bitter guys, it's no wonder that he harbors all these extreme stereotypes. I hope he follows my advice and finds a real life social context.
V.Vixen Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 Please enlighten us kiske, is this at all based on real life social interaction with average-attractive women ages 18-35?
threebyfate Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 The judgements in this thread are as unrealistic as the "hate rich people" threads, "hate all women" threads, "hate all men" threads, "hate all elephants" threads, "I must be universally attractive" threads. Complete and utter b/s. Once again, yes, there are advantages to being attractive, just like there are advantages to having a big arsehole, so you don't get hemorroids and can handle a lot of anal sex. What people on the other side of the fence never see, are the disadvantages of being a certain way. The grass always looks greener...
InspiredbyYou Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) It sounds like you're playing up and actively trying to get preferential treatment because of your looksYup, when I was younger I would do exactly that. That's the point the OP is making. Also, the only examples you really gave were getting into clubs and getting fewer tickets, while the original post acted as if being attractive basically means free ride for all women. That's what is talked about in the OP, so I responded to what he was talking about. Being attractive does mean a free ride in some situations, freer than what an attractive man gets. Let's be realistic now. Most attractive women learn to use their power to their advantage as soon as they realize what they can do with it. He is not far off with what he is saying. I think some women are just more confident than others, and some women who are just average looking are confident enough to pull off getting what they want. He is right about that and this is how the certain sense of entitlement is born. Yet the same can't be said for how men manipulate their good looks other than to get women in bed and perhaps get away with bad behavior. I think some of you women are taking things too literally and missing the big picture, let's face it attractive people who are clued in to the fact get more "perks" out of life. That's the bottom line. And that's above and beyond what you need intellectually and morally to make it and succeed as a whole person. Bear in mind that if somebody wants to really achieve something interesting, more than getting into hot clubs or landing a secretarial job, being attractive is only a minor boost. If an attractive woman doesn't have a good brain she won't get very far in most higher level professions. Thanks for stating the SUPER obvious. I am in a profession where looks doesn't hurt, in fact it it can only benefit you but if you don't have the intelligence to back it up you get eaten up alive and you will sink. I never relied on my looks alone to get me through life, but I did count on it to get me perks and that's what the OP is trying to say. A few of you are taking this thread really personally and getting very offended and yet it's not so bad what the OP is trying to say if you get past the semantics. Edited November 29, 2009 by InspiredbyYou
mortensorchid Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 Not ALL of the attractive women act like what you just described. Sure, the opportunity for these things may always be there, but the ones who are users and manipulators are the ones who abuse the opportunity and those who give it to them. It's a shame you have had contact with those women, but I guess it's best if you do and know how bad people are so you know how good others are.
Pedigree Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 If you feel bad about that, just try older women. They will treat you like mini-celebrity as well, if you are an average to attractive boy between 18 and 32. this is true.
C-i-C-u Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) I would also like to add that I am dating (and very much in love with) a very average looking-guy with a crappy-paying job. And have no intention of leaving him for a better-looking, wealthier man. Well there you go. You have a bf who isn't the OP or Cognac so they still will be unhappy that you aren't going out with them. I have a question though. Would you leave him for a better-looking man though? I think that for every man that is having trouble with woman there is a woman with the same problem. Edited November 30, 2009 by C-i-C-u
kiss_andmakeup Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 Well there you go. You have a bf who isn't the OP or Cognac so they still will be unhappy that you aren't going out with them. I have a question though. Would you leave him for a better-looking man though? I think that for every man that is having trouble with woman there is a woman with the same problem. No, I would not. :] When we first started dating, I was also dating another guy (this was before exclusivity talks of course) who in my opinion was more physically attractive. I decided to go exclusive with my boyfriend and break it off with the other guy. We had more general chemistry (and more sexual chemistry too, in fact).
MissJoness Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I've gotten off from paying tickets while making minor driving instructions. this doesn't always have to do with being attractive. I know I have gotten off from paying major tickets too but I don't think it had anything to do with how I look. sometimes it has a lot to do with your driving record, if you don't have a warrant, or a bunch of tickets needing to be paid, and appear to have a good driving record the police will let you go for speeding, or not having car insurance. I know I got off a few times because of this.
jerseyboy Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 ....notwithstanding their socio-economic status. Think about it - an average to attractive woman between the age of 18 and 35, whether poor or rich gets: free booze, free drugs, free VIP treatment at clubs, free backstage passes, free "A's" at school, job offers aplenty despite lack of skills, unlimited sex with whoever they want, hedonism galore, free housing, and the list goes on and on... Now, if you went up to Paris Hilton in public, you would expect her to laugh in your face, right? So what do you expect when you go up to an average looking 25 year old woman, who has been treated like a 'mini-Paris Hilton' her whole life, to do when approached by an ugly to average looking guy? Makes better sense when you look at it that way, doesn't it? I only think its a problem if she cant get you into the club as well:D
AD1980 Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I blame men because we hit on anything that moves.. Thast why any girl who doesnt look like a trainwreck has an inflated sense of herself and thiiks she deserves some 9 or 10 becasue shes hit on numerous times by some guys who just want sex..
InspiredbyYou Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I blame men because we hit on anything that moves.. Thast why any girl who doesnt look like a trainwreck has an inflated sense of herself and thiiks she deserves some 9 or 10 becasue shes hit on numerous times by some guys who just want sex.. that's a great point!
MissJoness Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 Where do you all live where all women get hit on daily several times a day??
InspiredbyYou Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 Where do you all live where all women get hit on daily several times a day?? He didn't say "daily" he just said numerous times. Women do get hit on numerous times, he is right about that.
MissJoness Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I blame men because we hit on anything that moves.. Thast why any girl who doesnt look like a trainwreck has an inflated sense of herself and thiiks she deserves some 9 or 10 becasue shes hit on numerous times by some guys who just want sex.. Okay but where do men get the idea that just because they hit on a woman they are going to get sex? does this happen a lot, where a guy hits on a woman and then the next minute he's rolling around in bed with her?
MissJoness Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 He didn't say "daily" he just said numerous times. Women do get hit on numerous times, he is right about that. I don't. Sometimes I can go weeks without getting hit on
InspiredbyYou Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 Okay but where do men get the idea that just because they hit on a woman they are going to get sex? does this happen a lot, where a guy hits on a woman and then the next minute he's rolling around in bed with her? Well that was AD1980's point, sort of. It's men's faults for hitting on everything that moves. Men hit on women for sex, not "friendship or relationships," they eventually end up in relationships but their goal is sex. In some way, yes!!! some men do think it will unravel just as you described.
AD1980 Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 Where do you all live where all women get hit on daily several times a day?? I didnt say several times a day but most women as long as theyre not ugly if thye walk into a social setting will get attention As i said its to the point where some average womens egos are so huge that theyre unnproachable now because they think that 10 is coming their way
MissJoness Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 Well that was AD1980's point, sort of. It's men's faults for hitting on everything that moves. Men hit on women for sex, not "friendship or relationships," they eventually end up in relationships but their goal is sex. In some way, yes!!! some men do think it will unravel just as you described. I don't have a problem when a guy hits on me, and sex is on his mind. After all I am a woman and I would think something was wrong with me if I didn't have something about me that sexually excited a man
InspiredbyYou Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I don't. Sometimes I can go weeks without getting hit on Weeeeell me too of course! But if I had to do up a comparative graph of how many times a man equally as attractive as we are gets hit on versus how many times we do, for sex that is, then that's your answer right there. Poor guys in this thread, every time they make some comment women jump all over their posts to chew them up. :laugh:
AD1980 Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 Okay but where do men get the idea that just because they hit on a woman they are going to get sex? does this happen a lot, where a guy hits on a woman and then the next minute he's rolling around in bed with her? Just because it doesnt happen allot doesnt mean men dont always try And at a bar or club setting it happens a decent amount if the guy is charming and good looking and alcohol is flowing..
InspiredbyYou Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 I don't have a problem when a guy hits on me, and sex is on his mind. After all I am a woman and I would think something was wrong with me if I didn't have something about me that sexually excited a man What are you even on about woman??? You misunderstood AD1980's reference and now you are defending why it's ok for men to hit on your for sex?!?! That was the point all along!! If men weren't constantly doing things for women to get into their pants, women would not have such elevated egos in terms of sense of entitlement.
AD1980 Posted November 30, 2009 Posted November 30, 2009 Weeeeell me too of course! But if I had to do up a comparative graph of how many times a man equally as attractive as we are gets hit on versus how many times we do, for sex that is, then that's your answer right there. Poor guys in this thread, every time they make some comment women jump all over their posts to chew them up. :laugh: You cant win with women even if you dont blame them:D And youre so right about the equally attractive thing and getting hit on..Even really good looking dudes have to appraach and dont get advances as much as even a average looking girl
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