GoodOnPaper Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 They how come nice guys don't get nice girls???? Nice girls are bad at sending out signals, which nice guys are bad at picking up on anyway. Net result is that neither think the other is interested.
EarthGirl Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 One last thought for now Most self described "nice" people arent are mislabeled. What is closer to the truth is they are self interested people pleasers, and often times come acrosss, justifiably so, as desperate and just doing what they do because they want so badly for the other person to like them. maybe..but there is such thing as genuine kindness left in the world..thankfully.
jerseyboy Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 maybe..but there is such thing as genuine kindness left in the world..thankfully. I agree. And I think there are many nice people in the world. I'd like to think Im one of them, or at least try to be. I was writing with respect to the nice guys finish last, Im a nice guy crowd What they really mean is " Im a wuss, constantly act in a deceiving manner towards women, pretending friendship when I really want their affection, fawn over them at every opportunity, see their love as something to be purchased with endless gestures and desperate attention and understanding, forever hoping they will one day turn to me and profess their undying love, but instead they ended up dating some guy with too much cologne who was spitting corny lines at them and was trying to bang her on the first date."
EarthGirl Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 I don't know about all that. Men are way beyond my understanding. I don't even want to try any more, it's a waste of time, no offense to men in general, but there are so many more fun more worthwhile things to do in life in which I will actually get somewhere someday.
jerseyboy Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 I don't know about all that. Men are way beyond my understanding. I don't even want to try any more, it's a waste of time, no offense to men in general, but there are so many more fun more worthwhile things to do in life in which I will actually get somewhere someday. Pshht Guys are simple as hell Try dating women by comparison:)
Woggle Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 A big problem is that some nice girls are very conservatives and judgmental. They don't want to try new things and have fun plus they are often moral crusaders. I don't want to date Phylis Schafly anymore than I want to date Gloria Steniem. Often many of these women eventually get tired of being the good girl and they are not so nice anymore when they decide to rebel against all that. It is not a pretty situation when you are the target of their suppressed resentment. It is hard to find a woman who is open minded and lives life to it's fullest but still has a good heart and morals. I am not talking about sexual but about how she treats men. When you do you know you have a keeper
EarthGirl Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 Try dating women by comparison:) yes, I have thought of that...I think it would be a whole lot easier on my mind and heart and I am a little "bi-curious" ...but unfortunately I guess what I really want is a man.
EarthGirl Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 A big problem is that some nice girls are very conservatives and judgmental. They don't want to try new things and have fun plus they are often moral crusaders. I don't want to date Phylis Schafly anymore than I want to date Gloria Steniem. Often many of these women eventually get tired of being the good girl and they are not so nice anymore when they decide to rebel against all that. It is not a pretty situation when you are the target of their suppressed resentment. It is hard to find a woman who is open minded and lives life to it's fullest but still has a good heart and morals. I am not talking about sexual but about how she treats men. When you do you know you have a keeper Woggle, most of my I don't know..dozens of female friends are just what you describe in the 2nd paragraph...I think only maybe 10% of the women I know are anything like you described about being overly conservative and "moral crusaders" good god, it sounds like you are describing Sarah Brown from guys and dolls. And all my friends are quite attractive as well...of course maybe half of them are taken already...but not all. I swear sometimes I think men just make this stuff up ...good defense is an offense, and all that. I'm sure there ARE women like that, but I'm just saying I don't know where they are cause I don't personally meet them very often.
Sam Spade Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 Whatever - my girlfriend is the nicest of the "nice girls" and it would never occur to me to exchange her for her demanding, entitled bitch. Beats me where this myth that "men prefer bitches" originated:rolleyes:.
EarthGirl Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 Whatever - my girlfriend is the nicest of the "nice girls" and it would never occur to me to exchange her for her demanding, entitled bitch. Beats me where this myth that "men prefer bitches" originated:rolleyes:. I'm glad.........
carhill Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 I don't even want to try any more, it's a waste of time, no offense to women in general, but there are so many more fun more worthwhile things to do in life in which I will actually get somewhere someday. After many decades of contemplation, I approve this message
TheLoneSock Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 After many decades of contemplation, I approve this message College education > work experience > side hobbies/goals > girls. Especially if you are in your early twenties. Is this similar to what you're suggesting carhill?
carhill Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 That was my experience. Worked well until the tug of procreation got to me in my late 30's. We're all entitled to a little weakness.
Devil Inside Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 Pshht Guys are simple as hell Try dating women by comparison:) Amen to that. Here is the gameplan...we like someone that makes us feel good about ourselves, is sexy, can hold a decent conversation, and is attractive. Women...want one thing...everything. However, if you give them that you are a doormat and they don't want that. WTF.
Ody Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 Amen to that. Here is the gameplan...we like someone that makes us feel good about ourselves, is sexy, can hold a decent conversation, and is attractive. Heh, this is funny, and I often say the same type of things, but when I think about it it's not really true. At least not for me. I've definitely been with women who had these qualities, and I was not satisfied. Whether that's just how it worked out, or if it points to some deficiency in them, or in me... I don't know - but it's not that simple for at least one male!
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