McGrupp Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) plus hookers love hard alcohol. like LOOOOOOOOVE IT. seriously ok ill stop. but im serious. i was a virgin till i was 20. i thought something was wrong with me. my friends wanted to get me a hooker but it motivated me to get some strange. just go for it. go for anything. change you. go online, go to singles things...idk.... fat chicks? like is there a buffet nearby? Edited November 14, 2009 by McGrupp
Johnny M Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 Is there a nursing home or old-folks home nearby? From personal experience I can think of some people who would really appreciate your loving nature. Are you suggesting a nursing home as an alternative to hookers (see post above)?
Ms. Joolie Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 plus hookers love hard alcohol. like LOOOOOOOOVE IT. seriously ok ill stop. but im serious. i was a virgin till i was 20. i thought something was wrong with me. my friends wanted to get me a hooker but it motivated me to get some strange. just go for it. go for anything. change you. go online, go to singles things...idk.... fat chicks? like is there a buffet near by? I think he's too smart to go for such a lowly road, McGrupp. hehe. Remember you are only a 24 year old boy..... we're talking about a college professor type dude? Hello? soooo messing with you, McGrupp.
McGrupp Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 well hey i pray for you dude. ya know what you should do is look for something meaningful. get the sex thing out of there, and look for like someone to share your life with. how bout that? was that nice? i think there is a movie about this....
Ms. Joolie Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 Virgin - There are people in the world who want to help you. Really help you.... not psychiatrist who tell you that what you have is "undiagnosible." I mean, I am one of many.. I am fascinated by men like you. My ex was kinda a downer... totally loved him for it. I mean, you do what you can to help yourself and there WILL be someone out there who will love and appreciate you for it. ...You mentioned some things about your family that didn't sound so warm and friendly. Are you close with them at all?
McGrupp Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 and dont label yourself "VIRGIN' your sn should be like, THEpROFESSOR or something...
Author virgin Posted November 14, 2009 Author Posted November 14, 2009 Women would rather date a man with a criminal past (a rapist) rather than a virgin.
Ms. Joolie Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 well hey i pray for you dude. ya know what you should do is look for something meaningful. get the sex thing out of there, and look for like someone to share your life with. how bout that? was that nice? i think there is a movie about this.... Well, "B" for effort.
Author virgin Posted November 14, 2009 Author Posted November 14, 2009 Virgin - ...You mentioned some things about your family that didn't sound so warm and friendly. Are you close with them at all? I'm close with my mom but my dad is like in another world. He also gave my mom paranoid mental illness but that is another story.
McGrupp Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 well how will they know your virgin unless u act like one...
Ms. Joolie Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 Women would rather date a man with a criminal past (a rapist) rather than a virgin. False! Don't stress over it because you're a virgin. Focus instead on all your good qualities. Focus instead on improving your own self-image. That's where you need a lot of help. Because one you get more confidence..... that's what woman will flock to. Don't worry, you'll get all the experience you'll need. First... confidence!
Ms. Joolie Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 I'm close with my mom but my dad is like in another world. He also gave my mom paranoid mental illness but that is another story. I just asked because I didn't know how "alone" you really were... but if you are close with your mom that is good. ... gotta go. I hope you keep posting. I hope you share more about yourself, and get new insights. Lots and lots of new insights. You have been too alone for too long, and what you need is a healthy dose of exposure to people. Do that through Love Shack or find at least one social group you can belong to. But slowly get yourself out there.. start building that confidence. Best of luck to you!
carhill Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 Are you suggesting a nursing home as an alternative to hookers (see post above)? Well, I never thought of it that way IMO, job one is knowing and valuing oneself and I know from experience that such a journey is comprised of baby steps. He has to change his perspective before he will become valued by and attractive to others. OP, unless someone wants something, I generally can stare at my phone for weeks without it making any intrusion on my silence at all. Fascinating device. They installed a keypad on the device for a purpose. Your college education surely has educated you as to what it's for. You push buttons and connect with another human. Up to you
Pizzaman81 Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 Don't get hung up on the virgin thing, how would ANYONE know unless you announce it to the woman? Remember you are a MAN and you are a LION, once you are in bed she will never know you're a virgin, it's so natural then you'll be pro in no time. But anyway, no need to get depressed, I think media and all that crap is implanting the fact that being a virgin is a bad thing. Doesn't say anything about how you are as a person. -Pizzaman
DanielMadr Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 I'm a 38 yo guy who is a virgin and never had any physical contact with a woman. I'm not overweight, I'm under 6' (5'8ish) and around 170Lbs. I don't know how to talk to women or realize if they are showing interest in me. I guess I'm not attractive enough where girls just would come up to me in the street and ask for for dates. I had some girls start conversations with me but it went nowhere. I never really had friends either (guy or girl). I'm very depressed and lonely, and my self confidence is tantaomount to that of used toilet paper. Walking up to a strange woman and talking to her always seemed creepy and unnatural to me. I can't imagine doing it, and I also think its futile because they will probably think I'm a creep anyway. It has affected my career and and I have severe anxiety now. I may even be a candidate for disability (and then my chances with women would plummet to zero). I can barely face people (I forced myself into college teaching, but can't do it anymore), and I had other professional jobs. I don't even care for myself anymore, I recently started drinking hard liquor, I never drank in my life. I had a plethora of therapy and nothing helps. I may have something called "Aspergers Syndrome" or High Functional Autism. Other family members have it but obviously they were able to meet women. I almost feel like if talked to a women now it would insult her, she would think to herself "why would that guy want to date me, I'm probably horrible." I lived my entire life so far in the absense of any human touch. No one could relate to me, and I wish every day I wasn't born. 1. It is not late. Actually you are in lucky years. 2. I don't understand why are you depressed....You should drop Selfpitty reaching puberty but hey, you can drop it now - it can be done over night. Just stop selfpittying yourself. Laugh at your misfortune. 3. Talking etc. with women is no big deal. As a clutch you can use some wisdom from http://www.askmen.com or http://www.sosuave.net. Just remeber to think for yourself and don't analyze the stuff. There is lots of BS just stick to the core ideas. It might help you for the start and entertain your depressed brain. 4. Remember life is supposed to be fun. I know it is not but you should at least laugh at it. Some people spent their early adulthood in prison for political reasons and still can laugh about it. Your selfimpossed prison actually made you stronger than the ordinary guys. 5. Core of your problems is your FEAR. Fear of rejection, fear that your mum wont like you....whatever....fight it and let loose. Relax men. Don't take it so seriously. Don't take yourself so seriously. When you talk to a girl and she thinks you are a creep, because your fear got your tongue....so what? Next time you conquer the fear. Or next time. Eventually you will conquer your fears. Enjoy the fight and give it time...you have plenty of time. 6. There is nothing wrong with you which can't be fixed. Once you realise your fears are futile you are cured. Then it takes only learning social dynamics. 7. Don't concentrate on women. You dont get well to get women. You get well for your own good. Don't be desperate and don't think once you have a women your problems will disappear. First they wont and second she is thinking the same about herself and there can't be two in one relationship. 8. If you are stressed at work or simply don't like it, quit and go being a lumberjack or whatever makes you happy. You can't get better doing 10hrs a day something you resent.
scatterd Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 IM sorry you r feeling low dont be so hard on your self.A few times of being turned down can cause a person to feel scared and unwanted.I bet you are just fine you just dont know how to even start with woman.I new a really hot guy he thought something was wrong with him because all his other friends got the girls they was interested in him he was just shy and did not know what to say.A girl had to bug him constantly and had to do all the work for him to come out.It took many years.He just had to loosen up he quit trying and didnt care what they thought, then he was doing fine the girls did not scare him anymore then he could not keep them away.Its my brother, girls always had crushes on him he just did not believe it.he has not married but hes been in a few realationships and the girl hes with now he lives with its been 7 yrs.she wants to marry but he wants to wait.Relax im sure you have been looked at and even approched but did not know how or was to afraid to ask them to go out sometime.just try to be a friend have fun.Im routing for you! Enjoy life.:bunny:
Brady_to_Moss Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 IM sorry you r feeling low dont be so hard on your self.A few times of being turned down can cause a person to feel scared and unwanted.I bet you are just fine you just dont know how to even start with woman.I new a really hot guy he thought something was wrong with him because all his other friends got the girls they was interested in him he was just shy and did not know what to say.A girl had to bug him constantly and had to do all the work for him to come out.It took many years.He just had to loosen up he quit trying and didnt care what they thought, then he was doing fine the girls did not scare him anymore then he could not keep them away.Its my brother, girls always had crushes on him he just did not believe it.he has not married but hes been in a few realationships and the girl hes with now he lives with its been 7 yrs.she wants to marry but he wants to wait.Relax im sure you have been looked at and even approched but did not know how or was to afraid to ask them to go out sometime.just try to be a friend have fun.Im routing for you! Enjoy life.:bunny: Okay you need a lesson on periods.
boogieboy Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 Women would rather date a man with a criminal past (a rapist) rather than a virgin. You are totally clueless with what women want, and thats why I already gave you what you should read so you understand what women want. You read a shytload of books to become a professor, I hope you read the one Im suggesting.
Author virgin Posted November 14, 2009 Author Posted November 14, 2009 You are totally clueless with what women want, and thats why I already gave you what you should read so you understand what women want. You read a shytload of books to become a professor, I hope you read the one Im suggesting. As a professor I can say that some people lack the aptitude for certain subjects, no matter how much motivation and effort they put forth. I lack the ability to form interpersonal relationships. Someone can become a theoretical expert in something (e.g. car repair). You can read all the books in the world but when it comes time to physically do the job you just can't make the first move.
boogieboy Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 As a professor I can say that some people lack the aptitude for certain subjects, no matter how much motivation and effort they put forth. I lack the ability to form interpersonal relationships. Someone can become a theoretical expert in something (e.g. car repair). You can read all the books in the world but when it comes time to physically do the job you just can't make the first move. You lack the ability because you dont know what to do. "The ability" takes research and practice, and you cant get that practice as long as youre sitting on the computer. So what! You read the material, and then...how many more years are you going to wait to be a MAN before you decide that you have to go get what you want, and the women are never going to come to you?
McGrupp Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 im telling you...get a hooker or lady of the night or a fat chick and take that ****ing pussy off the pedestal. even if this dude did all the research when it came down to party time he would freak the **** out... so...pay to play. or ya know...whatever
boogieboy Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 im telling you...get a hooker or lady of the night or a fat chick and take that ****ing pussy off the pedestal. even if this dude did all the research when it came down to party time he would freak the **** out... so...pay to play. or ya know...whatever Everyone freaks out the first time, you have to get past it and make a second time, and a third time, then he will be able to appraoch and chat up any woman he wants.
PinkToes Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 Hey, I'm so sorry for what you're going through; I know how hopeless it can feel. I've got a question for you. How do you feel about women, in general? Beyond your assumptions that they're not interested in you, do you like women? Are you able to separate what you've experienced from women in general? I'm asking because it's hard to tell whether your saying that women would rather be with criminals than virgins is because that's been your experience, or do you really believe that's the way women view the world? Do you still have a positive view of the gender, in spite of what you've been through?
Vertex Posted November 14, 2009 Posted November 14, 2009 virgin: As a professor, then, surely you understand that you're falling victim to extreme confirmation bias and self-fulfilling prophecies, here.
Author virgin Posted November 14, 2009 Author Posted November 14, 2009 Hey, I'm so sorry for what you're going through; I know how hopeless it can feel. I've got a question for you. How do you feel about women, in general? Beyond your assumptions that they're not interested in you, do you like women? Are you able to separate what you've experienced from women in general? I'm asking because it's hard to tell whether your saying that women would rather be with criminals than virgins is because that's been your experience, or do you really believe that's the way women view the world? Do you still have a positive view of the gender, in spite of what you've been through? I've grown very cynical about the world. I think modern women are partially the blame for my problems, they crave "alpha" materialistic type badboys who will provide them with endless drama and issues. Women claim to be innocent angels, when in reality they want some drug dealer bad boy to F*&$ the daylights out of them. A woman could have 30 one night stands but would take extreme insult if someone even insinuated she was a slut.
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