betamanlet Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 Male virgin = loser, 99.9% of women would reject him for that reason. Female virgin = like a saint, a man is a pig if he woouldn't date her for that reason. Why? Women desire men that other women desire, women expect men to be experienced and know what they are doing. You're a pig if you expect a woman to know what she's doing.
JolliX Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 Lol, this is a good question. But personally, I wouldn't want to seriously date a girl that was a virgin. Sex is a part of a serious relationship to me, and I don't want to take some girl's virginity (or not enjoy that aspect of the relationship b/c she is unexperienced). Chlk me up in the pig category I guess.
A O Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 Male virgin = loser, 99.9% of women would reject him for that reason. Female virgin = like a saint, a man is a pig if he woouldn't date her for that reason. I've not ever heard these situations being thought of in such absolute terms before. I understand that some 'people' see male virgins as losers but its arguable as to how many. I also understand that female virgins are seen as being highly prized by some, but again, I've never heard men being called pigs for not wishing to date them. In other words, these are gross exaggerations in my book. Women desire men that other women desire Yes, that's a fair point. Any ideas as to why? Anybody? You're a pig if you expect a woman to know what she's doing.Again, this is a new one on me.
harmfulsweetz Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 I actually don't think I'd be all that fussed. If I really like a guy, and he happens to be a virgin -then I had better get on in there and get him some experience- I'd have enormous respect for a guy like that. All too often, you get guys who sleep around, and then when it comes to an R a girl don't know what to think. I'd actually think if it were for moral reasons (i.e. wanting to wait until you find Miss. Right) then how can someone not respect that? It's a big deal for many. Kaka the footballer, was a virgin until he married. To me, that garners major respect. He stuck by his values and principles. I'm not sure many men actually want a virgin, they just want someone whose a lady on the street but a freak in the sheets
EcstasyX6 Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 I was with a guy who was a virgin when I was about 18. He was very sexy to me, but I felt kind of bad that I took his virginity because I broke it off after a few months.(no, it wasn't the sex). He was actually very good because everything was new to him and a big experiment. I think most mature men want an experienced woman these days.
b52s Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) Male virgin = loser, 99.9% of women would reject him for that reason. Tip....men like this shouldn't say a word until the deed is over. Edited November 11, 2009 by b52s
Author betamanlet Posted November 11, 2009 Author Posted November 11, 2009 I've not ever heard these situations being thought of in such absolute terms before. I understand that some 'people' see male virgins as losers but its arguable as to how many. I also understand that female virgins are seen as being highly prized by some, but again, I've never heard men being called pigs for not wishing to date them. In other words, these are gross exaggerations in my book. Yes, that's a fair point. Any ideas as to why? Anybody? Again, this is a new one on me. The reason is, is that women are status oriented. They like seals of approval to show off, hence why they go for men that other women desire... It's MUCH easier to get girls when you are involved already, because you have a "seal of approval" and women think single guys who don't want to be single, are losers.. Hence, married guys are very popular. Try wearing a wedding ring.. 20% of men get 80% of the women out there.. Women desire men that other women desire...
A O Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 The reason is, is that women are status oriented. Right I see, I totally get that part of your argument. So, I wonder how many women are like this exactly - it'll be scary if its a lot. .
Author betamanlet Posted November 11, 2009 Author Posted November 11, 2009 Right I see, I totally get that part of your argument. So, I wonder how many women are like this exactly - it'll be scary if its a lot. . Easily 80%. The same percentage of women who have low self esteem.
Sam Spade Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 The reason is, is that women are status oriented. They like seals of approval to show off, hence why they go for men that other women desire... It's MUCH easier to get girls when you are involved already, because you have a "seal of approval" and women think single guys who don't want to be single, are losers.. Hence, married guys are very popular. Try wearing a wedding ring.. 20% of men get 80% of the women out there.. Women desire men that other women desire... The only thing that I dislike about this dynamics that some men actually do succumb to the temptation, instead of stoking those hos all hot and heavy and then going home to rock their sweeties' worlds .
A O Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 Easily 80%. The same percentage of women who have low self esteem. Alright, so where do you get these figures from? .
thegreatmoose Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 I was with a guy who was a virgin when I was about 18. He was very sexy to me, but I felt kind of bad that I took his virginity because I broke it off after a few months.(no, it wasn't the sex). He was actually very good because everything was new to him and a big experiment. Why should you feel bad? You gave him experience, which in most cases will make it easier for him in the future. If you would have said no because he was a virgin, then he would have been an older virgin when his next opportunity arose. If she were to say no for the same reason, before long he would be 25 or 30 or older and still be a virgin.
stillafool Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 Male virgin = loser, 99.9% of women would reject him for that reason. Female virgin = like a saint, a man is a pig if he woouldn't date her for that reason. Why? Women desire men that other women desire, women expect men to be experienced and know what they are doing. You're a pig if you expect a woman to know what she's doing. Yeah i'm sick of the double standards also. Like if women sleep with guys too soon and enjoy sex like a man they are called whores. That is the biggest crook of sh&t I've ever heard.
You'reasian Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 Yeah i'm sick of the double standards also. Like if women sleep with guys too soon and enjoy sex like a man they are called whores. That is the biggest crook of sh&t I've ever heard. I agree. Women shouldn't have to justify sleeping with a guy. Its their business and its double standards that people have for women that causes them to be mixed up in the head.
stillafool Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 The reason is, is that women are status oriented. They like seals of approval to show off, hence why they go for men that other women desire... It's MUCH easier to get girls when you are involved already, because you have a "seal of approval" and women think single guys who don't want to be single, are losers.. Hence, married guys are very popular. Try wearing a wedding ring.. 20% of men get 80% of the women out there.. Women desire men that other women desire... And, what about men who desire women that other men have? A man see's another guy with a beautiful girl and wishes he had her. Is that okay? This applies to both sexes. If a man or a woman are highly attractive chances are they will marry sooner and other people still find them attractive. It doesn't matter if they are taken or not, goodlooking people get attention. It's just that if you are goodlooking you aren't going to stay "free" long.
Author betamanlet Posted November 11, 2009 Author Posted November 11, 2009 Yeah i'm sick of the double standards also. Like if women sleep with guys too soon and enjoy sex like a man they are called whores. That is the biggest crook of sh&t I've ever heard. Called whores by other women, not by men.
Author betamanlet Posted November 11, 2009 Author Posted November 11, 2009 And, what about men who desire women that other men have? A man see's another guy with a beautiful girl and wishes he had her. Is that okay? This applies to both sexes. If a man or a woman are highly attractive chances are they will marry sooner and other people still find them attractive. It doesn't matter if they are taken or not, goodlooking people get attention. It's just that if you are goodlooking you aren't going to stay "free" long. I think for most men, they are repulsed by the prospect of being with a woman who they know is having sex with other men. It's just disgusting.
You'reasian Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 I think for most men, they are repulsed by the prospect of being with a woman who they know is having sex with other men. It's just disgusting. ...At least in terms of long-term companionship. If its FWB, they probably don't care.
stillafool Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 I think for most men, they are repulsed by the prospect of being with a woman who they know is having sex with other men. It's just disgusting. And of course women don't mind if men are having sex with other women and them, oh no that's not disgusting to us at all. Be serious. Women feel the same way when they find out a man is sleeping with more than one woman. I think the biggest problem that men really have with this is "penis envy". They don't like comparisons in that department and are afraid they will be judged against another man. BTW, it is mostly men who call these women whores because they are the ones (like you) who are having a problem with it.
Author betamanlet Posted November 11, 2009 Author Posted November 11, 2009 And of course women don't mind if men are having sex with other women and them, oh no that's not disgusting to us at all. Be serious. Women feel the same way when they find out a man is sleeping with more than one woman. I think the biggest problem that men really have with this is "penis envy". They don't like comparisons in that department and are afraid they will be judged against another man. BTW, it is mostly men who call these women whores because they are the ones (like you) who are having a problem with it. it's not disgusting to women. THey actually DESIRE men that other women have/want... Meaning if you're a guy and getting sex currently, it's MUCH easier for you to get other women simply for the fact you already have one. Women don't seem to have a problem sharing men, and go after men that are already attached. While I'm sure there are some men that do share women, most men think it's disgusting, as we think "sloppy seconds" is disgusting. Put on a wedding ring, tell a woman you hav ea girlfriend, she'll be much more interested in you than if you said you were single and looking to date.
Cobra_X Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 Yeah i'm sick of the double standards also. Like if women sleep with guys too soon and enjoy sex like a man they are called whores. That is the biggest crook of sh&t I've ever heard. Apples and oranges. Instead of bitching that your not a man... celebrate the things that make you a woman. We should not be in a race to become androgynous. It's not attractive. Just as you want a man to be masculine... don't complain when a man expects you to be feminine.
You'reasian Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 it's not disgusting to women. THey actually DESIRE men that other women have/want... Meaning if you're a guy and getting sex currently, it's MUCH easier for you to get other women simply for the fact you already have one. Women don't seem to have a problem sharing men, and go after men that are already attached. While I'm sure there are some men that do share women, most men think it's disgusting, as we think "sloppy seconds" is disgusting. Put on a wedding ring, tell a woman you have a girlfriend, she'll be much more interested in you than if you said you were single and looking to date. There's truth to this. I've got a buddy whom is now married. When he was single, women called him desperate, creepy, something not quite right etc. - not at all inline with who he is as a man or human being, rather how he was perceived or what women projected onto him. Now that he's married, women open up to him, let down their guard and want to be around him alot. Can anyone explain this?
Author betamanlet Posted November 11, 2009 Author Posted November 11, 2009 There's truth to this. I've got a buddy whom is now married. When he was single, women called him desperate, creepy, something not quite right etc. - not at all inline with who he is as a man or human being, rather how he was perceived or what women projected onto him. Now that he's married, women open up to him, let down their guard and want to be around him alot. Can anyone explain this? He has his "seal of approval" now that he's married.
You'reasian Posted November 11, 2009 Posted November 11, 2009 He has his "seal of approval" now that he's married. It seems like women look at single men as unavailable or uninteresting. Women depend on each other to validate, I think.
Author betamanlet Posted November 11, 2009 Author Posted November 11, 2009 It seems like women look at single men as unavailable or uninteresting. Women depend on each other to validate' date=' I think.[/quote'] Not necessarily. You can be completely single, but if you are good looking and have game (ie are slick) you have a legit shot. If you're average, ho hum and single, you're going to need to be seen with women for her to develop an interest in you. So brad pitt and single, you've got no noblem Regular guy and single, you're at a disadvantage UNLESS you can be seen hanging around other women. This will make other women think "why's she with him? there must be something about him".. I knew some guy a while's back that was good friends with this chick, neither were interested in each other, but they would pretend to be a couple in public, so that women would be attracted to him. It worked.. He played it off as being a swinger or something like that, hence why she wouldn't have a problem with them going home with him or getting him getting their number... If she wasn't around, he would strike out with women..
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