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Hi all,

 

New to the forum, here's a backstory.

 

Back when I was 15 (I'm 33 now) I used to date a girl from school - we were very much in love at the time (as much as you can be at this age). She eventually ended up dumping me then because I chose my friends to be with over new years than at her parents new years eve party (who wouldn't at that age)

 

Anyway, fast forward to today. I'm successful, I live abroad and have a very relaxed life. She messaged me on social media around 2 and a half years ago and we've been talking ever since. It's worth noting that we've only met twice in this time (due to work and the fact she has two kids - trying to get flights etc has just been a mess)

 

She came over recently in February and all seems well. We're officially meant to be together with a view to me moving back this year to be with her (I'm thinking I might get a house first to rent before actually moving in with her to make sure everything works - is this odd?)

 

Anyway, I was down the pub recently with a friend and he said - exact words - "Mate, how do you know it's worth giving up all this to go back. You don't really know what she's like now or what the situation is there and you're going to give up everything to be there"

 

... he had a point, he then proceeded to ask me something that I'd now learn to regret - he said "do you want me to text her claiming she gave me her number on a night out drunk and we'll see what she's really like"

 

Now, this sounds childish, I know, but I agreed. Predominantly because he was right, I needed to really know if she's 100% in this.

 

So he texts her and she claims she's single and he even got as far as talking about a date and she's agreed.

 

This has sent me on such a confused whirlwind that I'm not quite sure what to make of. Like, why would she go through all this trouble of offering me to move back to live with her and the kids? Why did she want to be bf and gf if she's still weighing her options?

 

I don't want to tell her that I've got my friend to text because honestly I feel stupid.

 

Where does this leave me though? Now I can't really focus on anything and future plans just seem to be disappearing after this.

 

What should I do? Should I continue as this never happened and see what happens? It's funny, because since speaking to this 'guy' that my friend concocted for me, she's been a little more distant from me.

 

Am I just wasting my time? Should I just move on? What actions would you take from here? Would you tell her what you've done to catch her?

 

So many questions.

 

Any help would be massively appreciated.

 

Darcey

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Testing somebody is bad. However, the idea that she believes that it's possible that she gave her number out to somebody she doesn't remember means this is a thing in her life. That is not good.

 

IMO it would be odd to move back & straight into living with her. It's better that you have your own place & you two date conventionally for a while before committing to cohabitation. You really don't know her kids so you need time to warm up to each other.

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You tested her and she failed. The fact that it’s a possibility that she believes she was drunk and gave out her number is very concerning. If I were in your position, I’d end the relationship and absolutely would not move. She also seems to have doubts about you or she wouldn’t have agreed to dating someone else. A person who was dedicated to continuing with you would responded very differently to that text. I think your friend is right. You don’t know her and uprooting your life is a huge risk. It would probably be a big mistake.

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Testing somebody is bad. However, the idea that she believes that it's possible that she gave her number out to somebody she doesn't remember means this is a thing in her life. That is not good.

 

IMO it would be odd to move back & straight into living with her. It's better that you have your own place & you two date conventionally for a while before committing to cohabitation. You really don't know her kids so you need time to warm up to each other.

 

Thanks for your reply. It's so so strange. I've asked her today if she has ZERO doubts in her mind at all and she seems absolutely godspeed that she's all for it. I literally don't know whether or not to even bring it up.

 

Regarding the kids, I did meet them, they've come over with her and we absolutely clicked.

 

I don't know what the hell to do.

 

Shall I just go over for a week and see how things are? Should I tell her about the texts?

 

J

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You tested her and she failed. The fact that it’s a possibility that she believes she was drunk and gave out her number is very concerning. If I were in your position, I’d end the relationship and absolutely would not move. She also seems to have doubts about you or she wouldn’t have agreed to dating someone else. A person who was dedicated to continuing with you would responded very differently to that text. I think your friend is right. You don’t know her and uprooting your life is a huge risk. It would probably be a big mistake.

 

That's what I mean, if we're talking literal terms, she has indeed failed. In her defence though, the whole 'how my friend got her number' she was very, very intrigued about. She said she doesn't remember and normally doesn't give her number out at all.

 

The doubt thing is what I fear most. I mean, if I agreed to a date now, that's me looking at options. Surely, she can't be sick enough to uproot me from here just to break up.

 

I mean, I've given her an easy way out and she hasn't taken it. It really seems like she just wants her cake and she wants to eat it too.

 

J

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ExpatInItaly

A question that may seem insignificant, but I'll ask it anyway:

 

I assume your friend lives in the country where you live now. I am wagering that he thus messaged her from a number that would have shown up as a foreign number when she received the message, and I also imagine she'd have recognized the country code since she has your number too.

 

Did she not think it was odd that some foreign dude is trying to set up a date with her? I also think it's strange that your friend even proposed this idea. Had he met her when she was visiting you?

 

In any event, I think your friend is right to not make plans to give everything up for her. Even if she hadn't taken the fake-date bait, you two have not really dated in person in ages and don't know how it will go when you're back in the same area. Making plans to move in directly with her would be unwise, fake-date or not.

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Wallysbears

You aren't even dating this woman...how can you 'test' her and/or already have plans to move in with her and her family?

 

Do you even want to live in the country where she is? Can you just up and move there or do you have to go through some sort of immigration process in order to do so?

 

It sounds as though you and she enjoy an online/text/fantasy romance where you can sometimes fly to see and visit with one another but haven't made any solid, logical plans to turning it into anything more than that.

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I don't know what the hell to do.

What part of, "she claims she's single and he even got as far as talking about a date and she's agreed" do you refuse to accept?

 

Everyone's pointing out how she's handing out her number when drunk but no one's pointing out how she told your friend she's SINGLE when she's not, and how she's agreed to a future DATE with him.

 

I wouldn't move across the street for this woman, much less give up my successful and happy life to move to another country for this liar.

 

Remember this if you remember nothing else. When someone SHOWS you who they are, you need to believe them.

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You tested her and she failed. The fact that it’s a possibility that she believes she was drunk and gave out her number is very concerning. If I were in your position, I’d end the relationship and absolutely would not move. She also seems to have doubts about you or she wouldn’t have agreed to dating someone else. A person who was dedicated to continuing with you would responded very differently to that text. I think your friend is right. You don’t know her and uprooting your life is a huge risk. It would probably be a big mistake.

 

Would you tell her about the text?

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Would you tell her about the text?

 

No. I’d just tell her that you’ve had a change of heart. Or tell her that you feel it’s too risky to move given how little the two of you know each other.

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Arguably you were wrong to prank test her with your friend, however, her response is of great concern....a big red flag concern.

If I've understood correctly you have both committed to a relationship with each other and she has accepted a date with another man. That is just not on I'm afraid.

The only thing I can say in her defence is that saying you will go on a date is one thing (flirtatious) but actually going on a date with someone is something else. Possibly she was just playing along with no real intention of actually going on a date. I guess the only way to find out is for your friend to call again and try to make firm plans to date....if she accepts then I would say drop the idea of living together immediately and possibly consider dating her for a few months and see how the relationship develops from there.

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Shall I just go over for a week and see how things are? Should I tell her about the texts?

 

 

Yes to both but in reverse order. Tell her about your little test & that you think she failed. That alone may get you uninvited.

 

Then go over for a week to see what's what. Do not move back until you have secured employment & a place to live that is not moving in with her.

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Apart from the rest , where's the father and is he in their life ?

And l'm amazed but yet not surprised that she's even thinking of you moving in straight away.

She has two kids , technically you don't even know each other really you shouldn;t even be around her kids yet let alone moving in with them.

That's suppose to be at 12 mths min' and only then if you are cert this is going to work out or they live through another man disappearing from their family.

So just have a good think about that stuff too.

Why not just visit her a few times before you even bother renting a place there, or have you already spent some time over there but if not spend some time over there first, few days a time, get to know her in her world a bit first before anything else.

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Whats the back story on her? Im initially thinking she had a husband/boyfriend, with 2 kids. He dumped her, and now she's looking for a replacement to help raise her kids...hey, how bout the old boyfriend from high school, wonder what he's doing. And there ya go. She slides you right in that spot.

 

I dont know. Sounds like any warm body will do for her.

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* As far as LDRs goes, until you "seal the deal" it's all fair game, that's one of the risks involved with meeting people on the internet who don't live in the general vicinity (I know you met her in school)

 

* Instead of buying anything, you should visit her more, get an Air B&B, you don't want to change your life around without a solid foundation first

 

* If you love this woman, you owe it to yourself to know everything there is to know before writing her off

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LivingWaterPlease

Someone earlier mentioned that the phone number from the dude who texted her for a date may be similar to yours since you live in the same area.

 

If this is true and she noticed that, and if she, as she said, doesn't give her number out, and I also think you mentioned she seemed intrigued by it, add to that the fact that she's cooled off toward you; have you considered that she may be playing along to find out if you set this up?

 

If, as she told the dude, she doesn't usually do this type thing, she's got to be wondering how the guy got her number. And she may very well suspect exactly what is happening.

 

A similar thing happened to me many years ago. I waited for the guy I was dating to confess it and he never did. I never called him out on it, always waiting for him to confess so that I could trust him. I never met the person he'd used to test me, but I did message (no phone calls and nothing romantic or sexual with the person) the person for months, all the while hoping the bf would confess which, as I mentioned, he never did.

 

In the end the deceit eroded our R.

 

In your place, I'd confess to her what I'd agreed to. She may very well be waiting and hoping for you to.

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We're officially meant to be together with a view to me moving back this year to be with her (I'm thinking I might get a house first to rent before actually moving in with her to make sure everything works - is this odd?)
It's not the renting a house part being odd, rather you planning a move based on nothing.

I wonder, why was it her coming to you and not you flying to her, considering she flew with kids in tow while you would have been alone (so just one ticket)?

 

 

why would she go through all this trouble of offering me to move back to live with her and the kids?

Why did she want to be bf and gf if she's still weighing her options?

Only she knows. Maybe you're not that passionate with her after all. You might be a steady option in her more mature years... but passion is something else. That, or as others suggested: she smelled a rodent...

 

 

I don't want to tell her that I've got my friend to text because honestly I feel stupid.
Well, the risk if you tell her is that she might play the card of: I so knew it was you doing this... and the whole thing gets ruined, and you'll never know if she was just playing or serious.

 

What should I do?
Well, that's obviously up to you. But if I were you, I'd say: Look, I'm getting cold feet regarding my move... I realized I don't feel like losing everything here... and at this point, going on with this makes no sense. So I'm out of this. Sorry.

 

 

You need to be firm with her. I doubt she'd consider moving where you live. And it's going to die on its own. If at that point (not later) she mentioned you tested her and the phone trick, then you should just apologize and you were really worried. Only then you'd be sure about her intentions. Anything else, just let her go and move on.

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