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Old 28th December 2017, 9:10 PM   #16
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Perhaps the vast majority of Western Women are taught to be dominants. They are best suited to weak submissive men.... which can be found in droves in left wing circles. When a dominant woman tries to get into a relationship with a dominant man... the women tend to be happier if it works, but the relationships can often go nuclear. It's very hard for western females to give up control of things.
There is definitely some truth to this. I tend to be dominant by nature, as is my fiance...which is part of what attracts me to him It has taken us many years to work this out, since our initial romance years ago came with a lot of fighting. I'm not even left-leaning either, even though I have typically been the feminist-lesbian type. I will have some adjustment to do once I get married, because his church is the "women be silent" type, at least as far as preaching and studying scripture. My GFs who are going with me have less trouble because they are not dominant by nature.
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Old 29th December 2017, 1:53 AM   #17
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There is definitely some truth to this. I tend to be dominant by nature, as is my fiance...which is part of what attracts me to him It has taken us many years to work this out, since our initial romance years ago came with a lot of fighting. I'm not even left-leaning either, even though I have typically been the feminist-lesbian type. I will have some adjustment to do once I get married, because his church is the "women be silent" type, at least as far as preaching and studying scripture. My GFs who are going with me have less trouble because they are not dominant by nature.
The Christian faith acknowledges no less than 3 female prophets.

Do not take the idea that women do not take a preaching or ruling role in the church to mean they have a lesser position. I have never encountered a Christian faith that discouraged women studying scripture... I would be wary of any that did.

I also would not take seriously any church that claims to be Christian and has women preaching. That goes against both Old and New Testament practices and tells me they don't believe the actual scripture their religion is based upon.

Psychological studies have recently shown that dominant type women... often referred to as bi-strategic controllers are happiest when with men who are more dominant than themselves. One striking study, showed that dominant women enjoyed force more frequently in their erotic fiction. It seems to indicate they prefer a more dominant man in the bedroom as well. Interesting.

I don't think anyone should attempt a religious conversion without a serious amount of deep research and personal reflection. The majority of the people in the world converting religions are moving to Christianity. I suspect that if it wasn't for the threat of beheading and persecution 8-12% of the Islamic world would convert within 5 years. China is poised to be the largest Christian nation on the planet by 2025... as they are moving towards 300 million Christians... despite massive government repression.

Meanwhile Islam is growing just as fast, but by creating babies... and as a byproduct poverty. The western nations are being overtaken by what can best be described as Secular Judaism... which accounts for nearly 25% of all millennials in the US alone.

So, that's pretty much the world report on religious conversions.
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Old 30th December 2017, 1:30 PM   #18
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Do not take the idea that women do not take a preaching or ruling role in the church to mean they have a lesser position. I have never encountered a Christian faith that discouraged women studying scripture... I would be wary of any that did.

I also would not take seriously any church that claims to be Christian and has women preaching. That goes against both Old and New Testament practices and tells me they don't believe the actual scripture their religion is based upon.

Psychological studies have recently shown that dominant type women... often referred to as bi-strategic controllers are happiest when with men who are more dominant than themselves. One striking study, showed that dominant women enjoyed force more frequently in their erotic fiction. It seems to indicate they prefer a more dominant man in the bedroom as well. Interesting.
The church I am joining encourages women to study scripture, but discourages them teaching it - except perhaps in female-only groups. Religious authority is given exclusively to men. To me it feels too old-fashioned, but it is just a part of it.

I think it is interesting that dominant women sometimes enjoy force more. I know that is true for me sometimes. My fiance isn't a "classically" dominant person...but there is no doubt about his determination and ability to get things done. He also holds a leadership role in the church, although he handles security rather than preaching or teaching.

I have also seen that Christianity is growing. In the past few years, I have seen atheist and pagan friends convert to one of the many forms of Christianity. Now my girlfriends are converting, and I'm following along. I think one thing that helps is that there are so many forms of it in terms of worship as well as variations in doctrine. Almost a flavor for everyone, it seems. I know there are disputes going back a thousand years about what the true form of Christianity is. My fiance has a saying, I don't know where he got it, but I like it. "In essentials, unity. In non-essentials, liberty. In all things, charity."
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Old 1st February 2018, 10:02 PM   #19
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I've studied all faiths deeply. Islam as practiced in the western world is not the same as Islam practiced in other cultures.

Many women who are lost or feel rejected by their own culture/religion group find their way to Islam here in the west. They begin practicing a liberal version of western Islam and are very unprepared for a more traditional or orthodox version. This causes MASSIVE conflicts for western females who find strong Muslim men attractive, but can't deal with the reality of living the lifestyle.

Perhaps the vast majority of Western Women are taught to be dominants. They are best suited to weak submissive men.... which can be found in droves in left wing circles. When a dominant woman tries to get into a relationship with a dominant man... the women tend to be happier if it works, but the relationships can often go nuclear. It's very hard for western females to give up control of things.

So, I tend to be a dominant type guy. I really don't think this issue is Islam itself, but more a clash of cultures. When I try to date liberal western women the results are often less of a relationship and more of a power struggle. It creates a very good sexual dynamic, but the drama is awful. I'm not willing to put in all the work to force some woman into giving up her controlling tendencies. When I encounter it... I walk. Traditional Muslim guys will slowly grind a woman down and at the end stage I see most women MUCH HAPPIER in this arrangement.

Oh please, Strong dominant Muslim men
What a joke!

You know it's a facade, women control everything in the eastern world, they just do it under the radar!

and the man there behaves as a peacock, not really in control of anything except for few!

His wife even makes him stop talking to his mother if she wants.

Secondly, please don't insult left-wing men by calling them weak, just because they don't use force to control women does not make them weak!

Dominant men have no religions or political party, this follow their personality.

and how do you know women are happy with this arrangement?
Did you take a survey of all women in the world?

or are you still burying your head in the sand thinking your mom and dad are happy and content because your mom didn't complain in front of you!


And yeah!

Anyway who says I am amazing is not amazing

So I hate to use this word

But I bet you are a beta!
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Old 1st February 2018, 11:02 PM   #20
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i chose my religion because it felt right...in my heart to follow...i felt i had come home...almost ... a relief......it felt natural and not forced.....i felt hope .....my heart was touched by the principles ....the organisation of the church i am in made perfect sense..they have a relief society of women ..and i wanted to learn more.....the leaders are exemplary..all positions int eh church are not paid......they have a strong foundation in humanitarian work and they also have which was really important to me...and interfaith policy.....where respect is given to all religions.....and a persons choices to choose their religion based on personal revelation and prayer....not by the say so of another....

i will not change my religion.....or convert back.....i am not an electrical power socket..and i didnt have the purpose i feel now back when ..i believe conversion is a deeply unique experience felt by the heart and once felt.....there's no going back...or it wasnt a true conversion....

even if i was booted from my faith and disallowed to attend......i would still believe in the religion....and i would accept i was booted for a reason i would follow my religion from home.....

i feel quite a few people have a crisis of faith...either they expect life to get easier or the people to all be the same and perfect..devoid of problems and so peaceful..no struggle..no flaws....no issues...or they have a crisis of faith because someone abuses their power as an official such as my mum who was a sunday school teacher assaulted by her church leader.......and me to a certain extent when i was younger and homeless .....i became disillusioned about christianity as a whole...i related more to the orange people and vegetarianism who fed me and didnt ask me for sex acts when i needed food and a place to stay....

...i believe the opposite to be true about life getting easier...i believe when you find the right religion to follow overcoming all that life throws at you....becomes possible...doesnt mean that you stop suffering...just means you can handle it better...you feel supported and guided so you can hold on as long as you are supposed to hold on.....with faith...you are doing your best by yourself and others...

i dont consider converting to simply marry someone......to be something i would ever want to do or have them do for me....it wouldnt feel right to me....either way..my heart would feel the lie.........deb
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Old 2nd February 2018, 4:13 AM   #21
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I would say most people who have not previously been spiritual but come to religion \ spirituality or who change their current religion - do so mostly out of a search for meaning and purpose in their life which they find lacking. Often occurs at an older age say between 30 - 50 and also often with people at the extremes - those who have achieved success what they wanted in life - but still found something is missing. Also frequently with people at the bottom who are going through hard times and looking for assistance. (This is excluding those few who simply do so for marriage - without a real desire for the religion but are willing to play the part in order to marry the person they love).

Aside from that on the comments about "dominance". I think its quite rare that women are attracted for any length of time to overtly dominant men. What I tend to find women are attracted to is "competence" and "confidence". Women like successful, competent men who are good at what they do and able to function well in society.

The "dominant" attribute is a bit of a weird one - women like assertiveness (they don't want a wet rag) but not normally outright dominance. The assertiveness needs to be balanced correctly. I would say dominance is an attribute that is usually very strongly inversely related to medium to long term success and happiness in any relationship romantic or otherwise.

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Old 12th March 2018, 7:13 AM   #22
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As a Muslim myself, I dont understand why you posted this as if muslim men are beating their wives or treating them like crap, something western media tends to emphasize me. Forgive me if I have misunderstood your post.

There are good and bad men in every religion or country. My father, brothers, and most of my friends treat women with respect and the quran clearly emphasizes on the importance of that but unfortunately your lovely media never shows you that. I will however be completely honest with you and tell you that the problem with these men in their culture, not religion.

This is why for example, you will find many christian and muslim men in the arab world (not all ofcourse) who think that they should be dominant over women. This however is common in places like Israel for example, where religious people are against women joining and fighting in the army.

I have dated two jews before. One of them was the loveliest guy I ever met and the second one was a complete nightmare. My point here is that there are good people in every religion and country

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Old 12th March 2018, 7:15 AM   #23
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Oh please, Strong dominant Muslim men
What a joke!

You know it's a facade, women control everything in the eastern world, they just do it under the radar!

and the man there behaves as a peacock, not really in control of anything except for few!

His wife even makes him stop talking to his mother if she wants.


Secondly, please don't insult left-wing men by calling them weak, just because they don't use force to control women does not make them weak!

Dominant men have no religions or political party, this follow their personality.

and how do you know women are happy with this arrangement?
Did you take a survey of all women in the world?

or are you still burying your head in the sand thinking your mom and dad are happy and content because your mom didn't complain in front of you!


And yeah!

Anyway who says I am amazing is not amazing

So I hate to use this word

But I bet you are a beta!
what are you on about? A man would leave his wife in a heartbeat in the arab world if she ever asked him to stop talking to his mum lol. God gave us brains so we can think and use them.
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