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Old 22nd September 2018, 10:01 PM   #16
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Fortunately humans can get away with all kinds of amoral and immoral behavior because most humans are socialized with a strong disinclination to kill. We see some mushy areas, as one example, where people take sides on spouses killing unfaithful spouses and affair partners. Some people think that's OK where normally they'd be averse to killing. That also may apply to revenge killing, when one's family member or lover is murdered. That 'eye for an eye' moral exception. Etc, etc.

Humans are about as simple as the laws which shackle us. Spend one day in court watching things to see how that all goes. What is right/wrong and what is legal? You decide
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Old 22nd September 2018, 10:35 PM   #17
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It's been a bit since I had contributed to this thread. I would rather not share what led me to getting fired, but really, what planted the seeds was someone snitching on me. Personally, where I stand is that I was not reported as a means of "doing the right thing," but rather as a means of "screwing someone over." In other words, sometimes snitching can be used for malicious intent.

Still, I am not going to tell you what happened, but I realize that I did deserve it. However, the way it was handled was $#!++y, as they waited too long to give me the letter, rather than do it sooner.
You can't expect others to live by your own personal moral code.

If seems like you are trying to find someone to blame for your firing instead of seeing it was own misconduct. If you hadn't been doing whatever that negative thing was, you wouldn't have gotten fired. Point being, you should stop questioning other peoples morals and should may be start looking at your own. Let it go.

For all you know that person's moral code doesn't allow to let other people get away with questionable behavior in the work place.

"Stop pointing out the stick in your neighbor's eye, when you have log in your eye." - or how ever that quote goes.

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Old 22nd September 2018, 10:42 PM   #18
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I snitch if I think the other person is doing the wrong thing, absolutely. Actions have consequences.
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So you admit that you will rat someone out? Are you a snake yourself?
See here. This person thinks they are just and you categorize them to being a snake because they have violated your personal moral code while preserving their own. This is the flaw in your thinking.
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Old 22nd September 2018, 10:45 PM   #19
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Since you admit you were the wrong-doer, how do you tell the difference? Your "snitching" is another person's doing the right thing...

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Agreed. ^This is a very important point. Objective/Collective morality aside.
You can't hold other people to your own personal moral codes and expect them to act accordingly. People will act according to their own moral codes, which for this person means snitching on you.
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Old 25th September 2018, 7:16 AM   #20
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It's been a bit since I had contributed to this thread. I would rather not share what led me to getting fired, but really, what planted the seeds was someone snitching on me. Personally, where I stand is that I was not reported as a means of "doing the right thing," but rather as a means of "screwing someone over." In other words, sometimes snitching can be used for malicious intent.

Still, I am not going to tell you what happened, but I realize that I did deserve it. However, the way it was handled was $#!++y, as they waited too long to give me the letter, rather than do it sooner.
Its sounds like your spending energy looking for somewhere to direct your anger .... rather then looking at the mistake you made, learning from it and moving on.

You will come across all types in this world. Some who will cover for you. Some who will throw you under the bus. Then every variation in between those two. You may even find the same person will do both .... and which one they choose to do switches depending on which side of the bed they happened to get out of in the morning or whether the wind is blowing from the east or the west. Seriously humans are a fickle bunch and it may not be anything personal - they are just having a bad day so dropped you in it. Maybe they did it because they where confronted about something they did wrong and complained you got away with worse or maybe just something people were generally gossiping about that management got wind of. May not have been deliberately vindictive. Who knows ?!?

You personally have no control over other peoples actions. So why waste time thinking about it. What does it achieve ? The only thing you control is your own actions. So place the energy and focus there - thats what will dictate your future outcomes.

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Old 25th September 2018, 8:35 AM   #21
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Is it morals or ethics?
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moral principles that govern a person's behaviour or the conducting of an activity,
well that's ethics...

ethics in my opinion are when you stand your own moral ground no matter how others perceive you in the defense of justice and whats right and true.....whistle blower...snitch.....dog.....i would rather be called that then support what is not right..standing by when you know something is wrong is ...not ethical....

like when my sons did something wrong and got caught out i supported them by telling them i will support you but...if you want my support you tell the truth....and take the consequences....which they did.....and i supported them and rallied community support.....

i think its important when you have morals is when you do something wrong you admit and tell the truth and don't put others in a position where they might have to lower their standards,ethics and morals in keeping your wrongs hidden......accepting consequences even when you do the wrong thing is a standard i feel is important..not blaming others for telling is important......we all make mistakes its how we handle them ....and take that responsibility makes ethics ...a beautiful word...and we can all improve ....and progress by the mistakes we make and accept..............deb
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