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What if you wanted someone to share your fortune with, travelling the world with no limitations, seriously, no limitations. How would you do it if you were a male in his 60's. You want a female who is attractive, faithful, intelligent and enjoys the better things in life but you don't want to get screwed again? This is real and I do not want to make another mistake at this point in my life. Suggestions that are real are appreciated.

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I don't understand what the problem is; are you having trouble identifying attractive candidates, or convincing them that they'd enjoy a life of luxury? It must surely be the former. I'd be willing to pass along phone numbers for a few of my former girlfriends for whom no $ limitations is would certainly seal the deal. In a sense you're just like everyone else here. You're looking for a needle in a haystack... except you have the problem of figuring out if they're attracted to you or the money. Most of us aren't burdened by that issue.

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Counselling, forgiving myself, forgiving them, actually posted on Facebook that I forgave all the women that ever cheated on me. Stopped dating for a few years while I worked things out with myself. The women in my life know my situation. I have seen behaviours from them that cause me concern regarding lifestyles. Do I attempt to meet women in environments that have women that look for that kind of lifestyle or do I try and find someone before it all hits?

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I don't understand what the problem is; are you having trouble identifying attractive candidates, or convincing them that they'd enjoy a life of luxury? It must surely be the former. I'd be willing to pass along phone numbers for a few of my former girlfriends for whom no $ limitations is would certainly seal the deal. In a sense you're just like everyone else here. You're looking for a needle in a haystack... except you have the problem of figuring out if they're attracted to you or the money. Most of us aren't burdened by that issue.

 

I have no problem meeting women in their 30's and 40's. My last relationship was with a lady who was 29, we both knew the relationship was going no where but we both got something out of the relationship. Not the person I want to wake up to and cuddle with. This is not about sex.

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but you don't want to get screwed again?

This is going to sound cold and crass, but you could literally buy them...

 

What I mean is this: Put an ad in the paper of the lifestyle that you are offering. But add the caveat that you want a contract which states you will deposit a certain amount of money into an account (like a good Roth IRA) which will be held in trust for the woman as long as she remains faithful.

 

If you part on good terms, you agree to give her all or part of the account, but if any infidelity is discovered, she forfeits the potential nest egg.

 

If things work out well and you are both happy in the arrangement, she will be guaranteed a nice retirement.

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Go to places where women don't tend to look for guys with money. I chatted with a guy online who offered me a trip round the world with him. I didn't know him and had no idea if I would find him attractive or anything. I couldn't accept such an offer because for me it would have to be a genuine relationship not just a perk thing or for me to feel as if I'd been 'bought' in some way.

 

He then proceeded to spoil what sounded like a nice offer by saying 'there would be strings'. It sort of gave away his mindset and really it wasn't very nice. It was strange altogether really. While I can understand he wanted company, what sort of person is going to take him up on that? A gold-digger! I have another friend who tells women about his fortune, his property and his cars, when he first gets talking to them. Later on, he complains they were gold-diggers. Do not talk about wealth, keep it quiet, have modest transport and wear modest clothes. You might meet people who see the real person then.

 

Spend time socialising with women who have other goals in life. I spend time with people who love music. The music costs little, in fact it is free, local musicians playing at sessions. People have quite a 'hippy' attitude but are very caring. If you mix with people who are into dressing up, jewellery, the 'high life', then you will find someone but they are very likely to be in it for the money. You need to identify the kind of people who, while needing to earn a living, are not impressed with people who are rich but value them for other reasons.

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Go to places where women don't tend to look for guys with money. I chatted with a guy online who offered me a trip round the world with him. I didn't know him and had no idea if I would find him attractive or anything. I couldn't accept such an offer because for me it would have to be a genuine relationship not just a perk thing or for me to feel as if I'd been 'bought' in some way.

 

He then proceeded to spoil what sounded like a nice offer by saying 'there would be strings'. It sort of gave away his mindset and really it wasn't very nice. It was strange altogether really. While I can understand he wanted company, what sort of person is going to take him up on that? A gold-digger! I have another friend who tells women about his fortune, his property and his cars, when he first gets talking to them. Later on, he complains they were gold-diggers. Do not talk about wealth, keep it quiet, have modest transport and wear modest clothes. You might meet people who see the real person then.

 

Spend time socialising with women who have other goals in life. I spend time with people who love music. The music costs little, in fact it is free, local musicians playing at sessions. People have quite a 'hippy' attitude but are very caring. If you mix with people who are into dressing up, jewellery, the 'high life', then you will find someone but they are very likely to be in it for the money. You need to identify the kind of people who, while needing to earn a living, are not impressed with people who are rich but value them for other reasons.

 

I am an artist who likes nice things. I actually dated a blues singer from Toronto. I am still a hippie at heart, but still like nice things. my art is hanging on walls in Canada, United States and Mexico. I have a very good business mind. I sit on an advisory board of a medical company. I see you are from England, some of my best friends are there. I keep getting invited to a friends place in the Winchester area, somewhere around Hyde Park, is that a nice area? I can be very showy but prefer not to.

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It's great that you are an artist and have been succcessful, that must give you a circle of friends among artists too.

 

There is nothing wrong with liking nice things and you will probably want to meet someone similar. I would think most people like nice things but probably settle for meaningful things which are essential or special to them. Of the people I know who have specifically said they 'like nice things', one is quite impulsive and lacking empathy and the other is a gay man (nice person, very sociable). Most people I spend time with are into music. Some of them have nice things but that's not what draws people together.

 

Yes, I am from the UK but not London. I don't know the Winchester area or Hyde Park (the latter is in London). All I could remember about Winchester was that it has a cathedral. In fact I had to look it up myself. There is a place called Winchester near the south coast and Portsmouth and Southampton. It would be a good place to visit if you like boats.

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It's great that you are an artist and have been succcessful, that must give you a circle of friends among artists too.

 

There is nothing wrong with liking nice things and you will probably want to meet someone similar. I would think most people like nice things but probably settle for meaningful things which are essential or special to them. Of the people I know who have specifically said they 'like nice things', one is quite impulsive and lacking empathy and the other is a gay man (nice person, very sociable). Most people I spend time with are into music. Some of them have nice things but that's not what draws people together.

 

Yes, I am from the UK but not London. I don't know the Winchester area or Hyde Park (the latter is in London). All I could remember about Winchester was that it has a cathedral. In fact I had to look it up myself. There is a place called Winchester near the south coast and Portsmouth and Southampton. It would be a good place to visit if you like boats.

 

Think I screwed up it may be the Westminster area, I too remember that song by Tiny Tim or someone like him about the cathedral. To show you how much of a hippie I still am I am writing you while burning Boswellia Sacra tears from Oman(I get some of the Princess's private stash)while listening to some old David Bowie.

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This is going to sound cold and crass, but you could literally buy them...

 

What I mean is this: Put an ad in the paper of the lifestyle that you are offering. But add the caveat that you want a contract which states you will deposit a certain amount of money into an account (like a good Roth IRA) which will be held in trust for the woman as long as she remains faithful.

 

If you part on good terms, you agree to give her all or part of the account, but if any infidelity is discovered, she forfeits the potential nest egg.

 

If things work out well and you are both happy in the arrangement, she will be guaranteed a nice retirement.

 

Carrie, I got totally roasted here a year or two ago about running an add for a travel companion. I offered to pay all their expenses for a year while we travelled and at the end of the year I would put 100,000 K in their bank account. Never spoke about it again.

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Westminster sounds more reasonable as that is in London. It's probably a great place for a visit anyway. There are some artistic hippies in London too.

 

I am going to have to look up what you are burning ... I should have heard of it!

 

Yes, I reckon musicians and artists would be your best companions, though no-one is immune from materialism.

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Look, I am on both sides of the coin here.

 

For one, I think it's sad to have to pay for attention, affection, and/or love. But, actually, IMO, all men "pay" in some form or another....in other words, a woman isn't gonna wanna marry you and/or find you attractive if you don't have money and stuff. Even in this day/age where women work, they still are depending on a guy's income and stuff - even if bills are split.

 

And, I'm gonna get heat for this, but sorry biology still rules. Women yearn for providers and protectors in men. Their panties get wet on what you can do for them. We have an ongoing thread where a young lady is resentful that she's the "man" in the RL.

 

We had a guy who posted on here a lot about his "sugar baby" experience. And, part of me believes that the girl did have the hots for him cuz duh, he was paying her bills. But, at the same time, she wouldn't be with such an older guy unless there is something in it for her.

 

That radio personality I posted about recently? He's like 52 and married a 20s chick. I believe that she's with him cuz she can have sex with him without gagging (he's ok looking for his age) and, she doesn't wanna struggle like most gals who marry in their 20's (like the woman in the other thread who has to sacrifice while her bf is trying to 'make it' in this world).

 

So, what I'm saying is, maybe you can snag a decent, younger gal who won't be plotting your death to collect on insurance she took out on you. If you're decent looking and in shape, take care of yourself, you can probably have something with a sugar baby that is like "dating with perks".

 

Funny, on Sex and the City, where Trump did a cameo years ago, there was a thread about Samantha considering dating an older guy who leveled with her about not worrying about spending on a younger woman cuz he just wanted to enjoy his last years. Well, it went sorta ok until even though she dimmed the lights, she grossed out when she saw his saggy butt when he excused himself to go to the bathroom.

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Westminster sounds more reasonable as that is in London. It's probably a great place for a visit anyway. There are some artistic hippies in London too.

 

I am going to have to look up what you are burning ... I should have heard of it!

 

Yes, I reckon musicians and artists would be your best companions, though no-one is immune from materialism.

 

When I was a starving artist I actually lived above a Chinese restaurant on one of the windiest corner in North America. I lived on white rice with sweet and sour sauce for just 20 cents a bowl. Some of the best artists in Canada came through town and crashed at my studio. The cost for their stay was a piece of art painted on my 12 high studio walls. Had to leave it all behind when I moved to the wild west.

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I have no problem meeting women in their 30's and 40's. My last relationship was with a lady who was 29, we both knew the relationship was going no where but we both got something out of the relationship. Not the person I want to wake up to and cuddle with. This is not about sex.

 

 

Oh I know. I was half joking in the first part. I've been in the same situation, except without a lot of money. So yea, the money complicates things because you can't know for certain where the motivation lies, and that's important.

 

My puzzle is mostly solved (assuming it lasts) because I have a wonderful girlfriend who loves me in spite of me not being loaded. There is no doubt about it. My previous gf once told me that money was my biggest drawback. That's the one I was thinking about introducing you to... except I like you too much to actually do it.

 

Ok to be perfectly serious for a moment... you know you can't separate the obvious advantage you have, but what you can do is pay close attention to her personality traits and choose someone who is loyal, moral and all of those thing we all want. You just have to be able to determine how much is about the lifestyle upgrade and how much is about you personally. That's not easy, but if you're sensitive and emotionally intelligent you'll be able to. I highly recommend women in the 50-55 age range. It's a bona fide sweet spot in my opinion.

 

In other words, I believe there is someone just right for you, but you have this one complication that you have to figure out how to manage in one sense (to cull the gold diggers). Beyond that you just have to sense if she's genuine, like we all do.

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Carrie, I got totally roasted here a year or two ago about running an add for a travel companion. I offered to pay all their expenses for a year while we travelled and at the end of the year I would put 100,000 K in their bank account. Never spoke about it again.

 

Hmmmmm... I don't remember it, but I don't doubt it. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with it. And I'm sorry RobertZ isn't around anymore to weigh in on how effective the who SB lifestyle has worked for him.

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It sounds like you've done the apprenticeship :)

 

Are there other artists you know who would like to travel like you? I can't help but think that if you offer the good life to strangers, you would attract some dodgy people. Better to stick with people you know and trust.

 

I seem to remember seeing a programme about a hotel in the south of France where the owner had lots of artists to stay from the 30s onwards and they also left works of art there. It seems a nice gesture, personal. Only someone who cared about people and art would accept such a gift in lieu of payment from a relatively unknown artist. I believe some of those artists later went on to become famous. Wish I could remember the name of the place!

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Look, I am on both sides of the coin here.

 

For one, I think it's sad to have to pay for attention, affection, and/or love. But, actually, IMO, all men "pay" in some form or another....in other words, a woman isn't gonna wanna marry you and/or find you attractive if you don't have money and stuff. Even in this day/age where women work, they still are depending on a guy's income and stuff - even if bills are split.

 

And, I'm gonna get heat for this, but sorry biology still rules. Women yearn for providers and protectors in men. Their panties get wet on what you can do for them. We have an ongoing thread where a young lady is resentful that she's the "man" in the RL.

 

We had a guy who posted on here a lot about his "sugar baby" experience. And, part of me believes that the girl did have the hots for him cuz duh, he was paying her bills. But, at the same time, she wouldn't be with such an older guy unless there is something in it for her.

 

That radio personality I posted about recently? He's like 52 and married a 20s chick. I believe that she's with him cuz she can have sex with him without gagging (he's ok looking for his age) and, she doesn't wanna struggle like most gals who marry in their 20's (like the woman in the other thread who has to sacrifice while her bf is trying to 'make it' in this world).

 

So, what I'm saying is, maybe you can snag a decent, younger gal who won't be plotting your death to collect on insurance she took out on you. If you're decent looking and in shape, take care of yourself, you can probably have something with a sugar baby that is like "dating with perks".

 

Funny, on Sex and the City, where Trump did a cameo years ago, there was a thread about Samantha considering dating an older guy who leveled with her about not worrying about spending on a younger woman cuz he just wanted to enjoy his last years. Well, it went sorta ok until even though she dimmed the lights, she grossed out when she saw his saggy butt when he excused himself to go to the bathroom.

 

Gloria, my problem isn't meeting women. I was just in New York and got to hang out with an MTV video jockey who just released her own clothing line. My issue isn't meeting women, it's meeting women in the 48-58 year range that aren't all about money. I went to Alfredo's in N.Y. the guys that invented the creamy pasta in Rome in 1914(New York division). Do you know that you can have their food delivered to you overnight almost anywhere in the world if you pay for the service? Awesome pasta. I do not want to date 20 something year old women.

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Hmmmmm... I don't remember it, but I don't doubt it. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with it. And I'm sorry RobertZ isn't around anymore to weigh in on how effective the who SB lifestyle has worked for him.

 

My post, October 25th, 2013 titled "Year Of Your Time" only requirements, faithful, attractive and enjoys travelling.

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Gloria, my problem isn't meeting women. I was just in New York and got to hang out with an MTV video jockey who just released her own clothing line. My issue isn't meeting women, it's meeting women in the 48-58 year range that aren't all about money. I went to Alfredo's in N.Y. the guys that invented the creamy pasta in Rome in 1914(New York division). Do you know that you can have their food delivered to you overnight almost anywhere in the world if you pay for the service? Awesome pasta. I do not want to date 20 something year old women.

 

Got it....sorry :(

 

Ok, I got another proposal for ya....

 

As much as I hate so-called "reality" TV shows, there was one about Millionaire Matchmaker. Maybe that's what you need, someone who can arrange dates for you with women who already got it made...like Zuckerberg and Gates' wives. Those women have skills, education and careers. They didn't marry to get more status and/or money, to escape a career...they wanted a family with a guy who was at their level...literally. Their wives look so down to earth.

 

Other than that, I'm gonna recommend the same thing I do to others - which is to take up hobbies, meetups, even church - where you can find like minded women who aren't about your money.

 

I remember in my hometown the women wanting to snag gringos would hang out in the clubs on base. You could spot them from a mile and see that they were 'on the hunt'. Don't go to places where you can see that they're on the hunt.

 

Gotta also watch out for the sneaky ones. My nephew was just telling me about those on his job. They act like they are going to college and/or work - when all they're doing is hunting for a husband. As soon as they find someone dumb enough to pick them up, they drop the job and/or studies.

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Got it....sorry :(

 

Ok, I got another proposal for ya....

 

As much as I hate so-called "reality" TV shows, there was one about Millionaire Matchmaker. Maybe that's what you need, someone who can arrange dates for you with women who already got it made...like Zuckerberg and Gates' wives. Those women have skills, education and careers. They didn't marry to get more status and/or money, to escape a career...they wanted a family with a guy who was at their level...literally. Their wives look so down to earth.

 

Other than that, I'm gonna recommend the same thing I do to others - which is to take up hobbies, meetups, even church - where you can find like minded women who aren't about your money.

 

I remember in my hometown the women wanting to snag gringos would hang out in the clubs on base. You could spot them from a mile and see that they were 'on the hunt'. Don't go to places where you can see that they're on the hunt.

 

Gotta also watch out for the sneaky ones. My nephew was just telling me about those on his job. They act like they are going to college and/or work - when all they're doing is hunting for a husband. As soon as they find someone dumb enough to pick them up, they drop the job and/or studies.

 

Thank you, I actually thought about paying for a matchmaker service not that long ago. Why, because I am such a poor judge of women, specially when it comes to me thus the reason for me being on this site. I can read about some poor beat up abused B/S on here and rip them a new ass*ole. When it comes to me fwak, seriously.

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Thank you, I actually thought about paying for a matchmaker service not that long ago. Why, because I am such a poor judge of women, specially when it comes to me thus the reason for me being on this site. I can read about some poor beat up abused B/S on here and rip them a new ass*ole. When it comes to me fwak, seriously.

 

Well, that's why back in the day parents had big influence on getting you hitched. In healthy situations (unlike some parents trying to get rid of their kids or force them to marry for the benefit of the parents image, money, etc.), it's a blessing to have the wisdom from your parents to help you meet someone. Cuz think about it, your parents been there/done that.

 

Now a days we're left to figuring it out ourselves through trial and error, parents are more worried about being our "friend" and appeasing us than express candid and frank opinions...so, we end up having to go to counselors and even getting wingmen or matchmakers.

 

Also, a good way to meet someone is from recommendations from people who you value and trust. Cuz, it's like picking a doctor, mechanic, etc. They know the person and can vouch if he/she is cool.

 

Well wishes :)

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Well, that's why back in the day parents had big influence on getting you hitched. In healthy situations (unlike some parents trying to get rid of their kids or force them to marry for the benefit of the parents image, money, etc.), it's a blessing to have the wisdom from your parents to help you meet someone. Cuz think about it, your parents been there/done that.

 

Now a days we're left to figuring it out ourselves through trial and error, parents are more worried about being our "friend" and appeasing us than express candid and frank opinions...so, we end up having to go to counselors and even getting wingmen or matchmakers.

 

Also, a good way to meet someone is from recommendations from people who you value and trust. Cuz, it's like picking a doctor, mechanic, etc. They know the person and can vouch if he/she is cool.

 

Well wishes :)

 

Feel weird saying this but I could actually change some woman's life. I could give a sh*t about her past as long as I know she won't hurt me and will be by my side, not because I paid for her but because she want's to be with me and see all the beautiful places in the world a couple of times. I want to give somebody a chance, that's all.

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I'll be frank; that sounds like a dream life for a woman who knows herself and is past the "raising young kids" age. But yes, your challenge would be finding one you felt you could trust.

 

Hmmmm.....I'm not good at that advice. I promise myself I'll be jaded and cautious Everytime but still like "falling in love" so much I do it anyway. But in my case the wonderfulness is worth the thud if hurt. It might not be for you.

 

So you have to be honest. Get to know a woman a bit, and just lay out why you have trouble trusting. And make the stakes high. She screws up, she gets a one way ticket home and NC.

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futuramafangirl, really hard trusting because I had a son with someone I trusted as much as God, turned out he wasn't mine. I raised him for a year before I found out, broke my heart real bad.

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