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Notice I did NOT say "ALL". ;)

 

It happens in several forms. In long term relationships and marriage, women often become less sexual and affectionate over time.. while expecting their husbands/boyfriends to become more loving, caring and committed over time.

 

This is confusing.

 

Then you have the age issue. Many women become more picky and have higher standards as they age. Yet they offer less to a man.. especially if he wants many kids as her reproductive years are ending (if not ended).

 

This is confusing.

 

And finally.. there is the situation where a woman will be very "loose" or promiscuous in her youngest and most attractive years.. giving her body away like candy. Then suddenly when she decides she is ready to get "serious":laugh: .. she makes the new man "earn" or "work for" her body. In other words.. he must now pay for something others got free.

 

This is confusing (and stupid).

 

Thoughts?

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she makes the new man "earn" or "work for" her body. In other words.. he must now pay for something others got free.

 

This is confusing (and stupid).

 

Thoughts?

 

IDK. But I wouldn't repeat any of this to your girlfriend.

 

Not if you want to be alive tomorrow morning.

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IDK. But I wouldn't repeat any of this to your girlfriend.

 

Not if you want to be alive tomorrow morning.

 

She has no reason to get mad unless this applies to her. And if this does indeed apply to her, then she isn't really a keeper anyway. The town bicycle wants to sell for the price of a new one? Me thinks not. :laugh:

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She has no reason to get mad unless this applies to her. And if this does indeed apply to her, then she isn't really a keeper anyway. The town bicycle wants to sell for the price of a new one? Me thinks not. :laugh:

 

Still though, there's that whole "scorned woman" thing.

 

If she reads your post you better have an escape route planned.

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Still though, there's that whole "scorned woman" thing.

 

If she reads your post you better have an escape route planned.

 

I'm not afraid of women.

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It happens in several forms. In long term relationships and marriage, women often become less sexual and affectionate over time.. while expecting their husbands/boyfriends to become more loving, caring and committed over time.

 

 

LOL!!! It gets a lot worse than that! How about hold me, love me, kiss me, snuggle, but then go jack off in the corner... for the rest of your life. And don't let me catch you or I'll humiliate you.

 

 

My ex wife still thinks only sex predators and freaks use porn. :laugh:

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Then you have the age issue. Many women become more picky and have higher standards as they age. Yet they offer less to a man.. especially if he wants many kids as her reproductive years are ending (if not ended).

 

This is confusing.

 

And finally.. there is the situation where a woman will be very "loose" or promiscuous in her youngest and most attractive years.. giving her body away like candy. Then suddenly when she decides she is ready to get "serious":laugh: .. she makes the new man "earn" or "work for" her body. In other words.. he must now pay for something others got free.

 

This is confusing (and stupid).

 

Thoughts?

 

I don't know what's confusing or stupid about this at all.

 

Is someone being "promiscuous" in their youth then deciding later on in life they want something more than meaningless sex really all that surprising? When you're young you often don't think about the future. Mentally it's very difficult for the young to adequately wrap their brains around anything beyond the present.

 

As it's not 1950 anymore, most young women in their teens and early 20s don't have their eyes fixed on the prize or marriage or "settling down" so of course many of them aren't thinking about their perceived "value" later on down the line.

 

I guess I'm not quite sure what you want. For all the women who were "sluts" to continue to be slutty and "giving it away like candy" until the day the die? For women to stop having casual sex and get married at 21?

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LOL!!! It gets a lot worse than that! How about hold me, love me, kiss me, snuggle, but then go jack off in the corner... for the rest of your life. And don't let me catch you or I'll humiliate you.

 

 

My ex wife still thinks only sex predators and freaks use porn. :laugh:

 

I am skittish about relationships, as most of the marriages I’ve seen up close have been ruinous for one or both parties. In four-fifths of them, the men want to have sex way more often than the women do. I would say almost none of the women would care if they ever got laid again, even when they are in good marriages. They do it because the man wants to. They do it because it makes the men like them more, and feel close for a while, but mostly women love it because they get to check it off their to-do lists. It means they get a pass for a week or two, or a month.

 

But I love the arrogance: You don't want to shag the man...yet you resent him for watching porn.. :laugh:

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I don't know what's confusing or stupid about this at all.

 

Is someone being "promiscuous" in their youth then deciding later on in life they want something more than meaningless sex really all that surprising? When you're young you often don't think about the future. Mentally it's very difficult for the young to adequately wrap their brains around anything beyond the present.

 

As it's not 1950 anymore, most young women in their teens and early 20s don't have their eyes fixed on the prize or marriage or "settling down" so of course many of them aren't thinking about their perceived "value" later on down the line.

 

I guess I'm not quite sure what you want. For all the women who were "sluts" to continue to be slutty and "giving it away like candy" until the day the die? For women to stop having casual sex and get married at 21?

 

But that's the way the male mind works for most part in terms of not wanting anything serious with a woman with a high sex number count. They want those women for sex but not to be their girlfriend & especially not marriage. The majority of men do not want to be with the woman that's slept with more guys than an entire football team.

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I am skittish about relationships, as most of the marriages I’ve seen up close have been ruinous for one or both parties. In four-fifths of them, the men want to have sex way more often than the women do. I would say almost none of the women would care if they ever got laid again, even when they are in good marriages. They do it because the man wants to. They do it because it makes the men like them more, and feel close for a while, but mostly women love it because they get to check it off their to-do lists. It means they get a pass for a week or two, or a month.

 

But I love the arrogance: You don't want to shag the man...yet you resent him for watching porn.. :laugh:

 

I find that weird since doesn't a woman's sex drive increase in their 40s? If their not doing it with their husband than I'd suspect their getting it from someone else.

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I don't know what's confusing or stupid about this at all.

 

Is someone being "promiscuous" in their youth then deciding later on in life they want something more than meaningless sex really all that surprising? When you're young you often don't think about the future. Mentally it's very difficult for the young to adequately wrap their brains around anything beyond the present.

 

As it's not 1950 anymore, most young women in their teens and early 20s don't have their eyes fixed on the prize or marriage or "settling down" so of course many of them aren't thinking about their perceived "value" later on down the line.

 

I guess I'm not quite sure what you want. For all the women who were "sluts" to continue to be slutty and "giving it away like candy" until the day the die? For women to stop having casual sex and get married at 21?

 

Why are women not allowed to be judged for decisions made in youth? If a man is dumb enough to drop out of high school, skip college and work at Taco Bell until he is 30.. can he use the same excuse (I was young and stupid) when women think he is a loser? Me thinks not. :laugh:

 

Sorry.. you can use the "I was young and stupid" excuse if we are talking about your behavior at age 12. Not as an adult.

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I am skittish about relationships, as most of the marriages I’ve seen up close have been ruinous for one or both parties. In four-fifths of them, the men want to have sex way more often than the women do. I would say almost none of the women would care if they ever got laid again, even when they are in good marriages. They do it because the man wants to. They do it because it makes the men like them more, and feel close for a while, but mostly women love it because they get to check it off their to-do lists. It means they get a pass for a week or two, or a month.

 

But I love the arrogance: You don't want to shag the man...yet you resent him for watching porn.. :laugh:

 

I think the porn thing is mostly age related. All women resent a man using porn if she is underserved. But I think most younger women know that almost all men use porn if they're not getting any. However, I would also bet that there is a very large percentage of older women who have never accepted that men are sexual creatures and we don't deserve to be vilified or humiliated for it. And it's NOT okay to go without sex - a lot never figure that out. My own sister cut her husband off several years ago and really doesn't see why he should have a problem. My ex was the same way. They figure we have a right hand. So to hell with us.

 

 

My ex and I never had a good marriage but my sister was as much in love with her husband as any woman I have ever known.

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I think the porn thing is mostly age related. All women resent a man using porn if she is underserved. But I think most younger women know that almost all men use porn if they're not getting any. However, I would also bet that there is a very large percentage of older women who have never accepted that men are sexual creatures and we don't deserve to be vilified or humiliated for it. And it's NOT okay to go without sex - a lot never figure that out. My own sister cut her husband off several years ago and really doesn't see why he should have a problem. My ex was the same way. They figure we have a right hand. So to hell with us.

 

 

My ex and I never had a good marriage but my sister was as much in love with her husband as any woman I have ever known.

 

Well, another part of it is the power women get through marriage (which is why like seek it). Once a women marries and/or has a baby with a man the man becomes her slave sanctioned by law.

 

Why should women maintain their weight, show respect or be highly sexual for a slave?

 

Once a woman has secured a man, she owns him... she has no obligation to please him anymore and gradually she won't. :laugh:

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LOL!!! It gets a lot worse than that! How about hold me, love me, kiss me, snuggle, but then go jack off in the corner... for the rest of your life. And don't let me catch you or I'll humiliate you.

 

 

My ex wife still thinks only sex predators and freaks use porn. :laugh:

I'd kick my pants off and chase her around the house with it. "Why are you running? C'mere!!"
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Well, another part of it is the power women get through marriage (which is why like seek it). Once a women marries and/or has a baby with a man the man becomes her slave sanctioned by law.

 

Why should women maintain their weight, show respect or be highly sexual for a slave?

 

Once a woman has secured a man, she owns him... she has no obligation to please him anymore and gradually she won't. :laugh:

 

There are studies showing that a large percentage of women start to lose their sex drive as soon as their biological need for pair bonding is satisfied. So I tend to think us men have our lives sabotaged by biology. And of course none of this applies to everyone. We are talking about percentages here. There are plenty of sexually frustrated married women too [or maybe they all post at LS :laugh:]. In truth, this was a huge shock to me. I had only seen the opposite. Almost all married men that I knew weren't getting enough.

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I'd kick my pants off and chase her around the house with it. "Why are you running? C'mere!!"

 

 

When I'd get shut down, which eventually happened every night, I would go out on the couch to take care of myself and watch some TV. I could often hear her trying to sneak down the hall just so she could try to embarrass me.

 

 

Man, I haven't thought about this for some time now. What a freaking nightmare!!! And I was totally screwed up already due to my family and religion. That's why I married her.

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But that's the way the male mind works for most part in terms of not wanting anything serious with a woman with a high sex number count. They want those women for sex but not to be their girlfriend & especially not marriage. The majority of men do not want to be with the woman that's slept with more guys than an entire football team.

 

Yeah that that doesn't really address the question. You've merely (once again) posited that men don't like promiscuous women. That's a given and something not likely to change plus it's not really something I'm concerned with. However it also has little bearing on how it's "stupid" for a woman to be one day at X point in her life then alter her behavior in another.

 

Why are women not allowed to be judged for decisions made in youth? If a man is dumb enough to drop out of high school, skip college and work at Taco Bell until he is 30.. can he use the same excuse (I was young and stupid) when women think he is a loser? Me thinks not. :laugh:

 

This isn't really the best analogy. It's like saying if a guy is a high school drop out and kicks around doing nothing until his late 20s, he has neither right nor choice to get his GED, enroll in college and want better for himself at age 30.

 

Sorry.. you can use the "I was young and stupid" excuse if we are talking about your behavior at age 12. Not as an adult.

 

I don't know about this. I feel like you're putting way too much stock into the functioning power of a 20 (or so) year old brain. I'm still in my early 20s but even now I can look at some things I did 5 years ago as a stupid teen that made no sense whatsoever in hindsight.

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There are studies showing that a large percentage of women start to lose their sex drive as soon as their biological need for pair bonding is satisfied. So I tend to think us men have our lives sabotaged by biology. And of course none of this applies to everyone. We are talking about percentages here. There are plenty of sexually frustrated married women too [or maybe they all post at LS :laugh:]. In truth, this was a huge shock to me. I had only seen the opposite. Almost all married men that I knew weren't getting enough.

 

After puberty girls are willing and able to have sex and children..

 

A girl becomes a woman age 14-15, this cannot be changed regardless of how much an industrialized bank controlled state might want it. For millions of years humans lived by this natural truth.

 

The teen years after puberty are really the only time women can bond to a mate fully...after this many women become wholly opportunists looking for walking wallets and baby daddies.

 

Women bonding and reproducing young is the glue of society. This creates strong, iron clad families.

 

What we have today is unhappy citizens with unstable families due to a culture that constantly tells women "they deserve better".

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This isn't really the best analogy. It's like saying if a guy is a high school drop out and kicks around doing nothing until his late 20s, he has neither right nor choice to get his GED, enroll in college and want better for himself at age 30.

 

I don't know about this. I feel like you're putting way too much stock into the functioning power of a 20 (or so) year old brain. I'm still in my early 20s but even now I can look at some things I did 5 years ago as a stupid teen that made no sense whatsoever in hindsight.

 

Women are taught by society at a very young age that women who sleep around are not respected by men. If they take this awareness and choose to do it anyway.. why are they shocked that later in life.. men don't want to marry them? :laugh:

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Yeah, I've also heard that many women seem to lose their sexdrives once they move in with a guy or get married. Heck it's a reason this joke exists.

 

What food does the most to kill a woman's sex drive?

 

 

Wedding cake.

 

 

 

Honestly, I would be pretty upset if I had a girlfriend that I was having frequent sex with, and she stopped wanting sex soon after we moved in together or get married.

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What food does the most to kill a woman's sex drive?

 

Wedding cake.

 

Honestly, I would be pretty upset if I had a girlfriend that I was having frequent sex with, and she stopped wanting sex soon after we moved in together or get married.

 

Man, I didn't get laid on my wedding night. She informed me that she had a new medical problem. And that was the lie she use throughout our entire marriage. That was the beginning of the end of our sex life. After five years I was barely getting laid at all. Any time I pushed for more she got angry and nasty and started making all sorts of accusations. And NOT ONCE did she ever offer any alternatives.

 

Honestly, I am pretty sure that she planned the whole thing.

 

When we divorced and she was accusing me of all sorts of stuff, I pointed out that in spite of having a virtually sexless marriage, I never cheated on her. Her response was basically to F off, that she had to go without sex too. When I think of all the times I could have cheated but instead chose to be a loyal husband who has a wife with a medical problem, I want to shoot myself all over again.

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Mister Zen,

I find your OP rather cynical and one-sided.

 

I could quote loads of examples where the genders could be reversed.....:rolleyes:

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LOL!!! It gets a lot worse than that! How about hold me, love me, kiss me, snuggle, but then go jack off in the corner... for the rest of your life. And don't let me catch you or I'll humiliate you.

 

 

My ex wife still thinks only sex predators and freaks use porn. :laugh:

 

And "hold me, kiss me, screw me, pay me" is so romantic?

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After puberty girls are willing and able to have sex and children..

 

A girl becomes a woman age 14-15, this cannot be changed regardless of how much an industrialized bank controlled state might want it. For millions of years humans lived by this natural truth.

 

The teen years after puberty are really the only time women can bond to a mate fully...after this many women become wholly opportunists looking for walking wallets and baby daddies.

 

Women bonding and reproducing young is the glue of society. This creates strong, iron clad families.

 

What we have today is unhappy citizens with unstable families due to a culture that constantly tells women "they deserve better".

 

This is sick. And untrue.

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