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She's 17 and awkwardly informed me tonight (after I said, "love you!") that she just doesn't feel comfortable saying "I love you." To anyone. She said, "I mean, I'll SHOW you I love you....but don't be offended if I don't say it. I don't say it to my friends either when they say it." I was like, "Um, ok....that's fine....but this is new....you used to have no problem saying that...." :cool: She's a very affectionate girl and loves hugs.

 

What gives?

 

She has her first serious boyfriend. I've asked her a few times (not recently) if they've said "I love you" and she said no, she's scared. She said he "wants to" but she hasn't felt comfortable. Also, he's a senior going off to college and she's a junior and she's very stressed about that.

 

Any ideas? I feel like maybe she's making this universal "declaration" that she doesn't say "I love you" to be able to justify to him why she won't say it maybe? I'm at a loss here because we've always been very verbal with our affection and this seems to have come out of the blue.

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littleblackheart

Hi CO

 

Is this the daughter that is on the spectrum? I'm sorry if I'm way off, I just seem to recall you posting that before?

 

If so, this is totally normal and I can very much relate (if not, feel free to ignore the following 'explanation'!):

 

The only 2 people I feel I can say those words to unreservedly and unconditionally without it causing a meltdown or a freakout are my children. I struggle to say that to anyone else, partly because I find it extremely cringe-inducing, and party because I prefer to show it in action, partly because I don't want to cheapen it (all very convoluted, but this is how aspies do it!).

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FilterCoffee

I think it’s just a phase she’s going through. I went through lots of phases during my teens. I wouldn’t worry too much about this.

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can you ask her what the word means to her, what does it entail??

 

otherwise, not to be a downer, but around here since our friend, a beautiful young mother, was killed instantly in a car crash, we are very mindful of letting others know how we feel, esp. when we part company. it could be the last thing we say to a loved one.

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Hi CO

 

Is this the daughter that is on the spectrum? I'm sorry if I'm way off, I just seem to recall you posting that before?

 

If so, this is totally normal and I can very much relate (if not, feel free to ignore the following 'explanation'!):

 

The only 2 people I feel I can say those words to unreservedly and unconditionally without it causing a meltdown or a freakout are my children. I struggle to say that to anyone else, partly because I find it extremely cringe-inducing, and party because I prefer to show it in action, partly because I don't want to cheapen it (all very convoluted, but this is how aspies do it!).

 

No, she isn't on the spectrum (that we know of), but she has an anxiety disorder, sensory issues, math disability and mild ADD. Maybe that's what you're thinking of. Thanks for your thoughts!

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No, she isn't on the spectrum (that we know of), but she has an anxiety disorder, sensory issues, math disability and mild ADD. Maybe that's what you're thinking of. Thanks for your thoughts!

 

Yes, that's what I was thinking of! Whether a phase or not (it may well last, we are all wired differently, sometimes people feel compelled to 'grow out of it' to conform, which does more harm than good long term imo) the main thing is not to take it to heart too much.

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She's 17 and awkwardly informed me tonight (after I said, "love you!") that she just doesn't feel comfortable saying "I love you." To anyone. She said, "I mean, I'll SHOW you I love you....but don't be offended if I don't say it. I don't say it to my friends either when they say it." I was like, "Um, ok....that's fine....but this is new....you used to have no problem saying that...." :cool: She's a very affectionate girl and loves hugs.

 

What gives?

 

She has her first serious boyfriend. I've asked her a few times (not recently) if they've said "I love you" and she said no, she's scared. She said he "wants to" but she hasn't felt comfortable. Also, he's a senior going off to college and she's a junior and she's very stressed about that.

 

Any ideas? I feel like maybe she's making this universal "declaration" that she doesn't say "I love you" to be able to justify to him why she won't say it maybe? I'm at a loss here because we've always been very verbal with our affection and this seems to have come out of the blue.

 

My first thought is to give her time. Even in a parenting relationship, you can't force yourself into someone's life. If she is showing love, that's a good thing. At the risk of sounding cliche, this definitely sounds like a possible phase.

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Your daughter is growing up and realizing that those words actually mean something and aren't just something you've been conditioned to parrot back to your mother. This isn't anything you should challenge. Most 17-year-olds wish their parents would just dissolve, leaving behind their debit card. Be glad she's putting on some brakes with the boyfriend. If I were you, I'd tell her, You don't have to say "I love you" to anyone just to be saying it. Save it for when it's special. And that she's right that it's more important to show than to say it.

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Your daughter is growing up and realizing that those words actually mean something and aren't just something you've been conditioned to parrot back to your mother. This isn't anything you should challenge. Most 17-year-olds wish their parents would just dissolve, leaving behind their debit card. Be glad she's putting on some brakes with the boyfriend. If I were you, I'd tell her, You don't have to say "I love you" to anyone just to be saying it. Save it for when it's special. And that she's right that it's more important to show than to say it.

 

Great advice, thank you :love:.

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Preraf nailed it ...

 

Could be a phase ... one of those teenage things ... when they decide they want to be authentic and the entire rest of the world of course is unauthentic ...

 

Allowing her room to have her view ... gives her a lot of freedom ... And she's allowing you to say "I love you" to her, right?

 

She also could genuinely be feeling pressure to be kind and nice to everyone ... and she is feeling tired of that pressure ... but just can't fully articulate this ...

 

Not some disaster at all ... especially since she doesn't reject your love. If you're worried about her feelings towards you, you can also tell her gently that if she is unhappy with something about your relationship with her, that you would like her to tell you.

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Preraf nailed it ...

 

Could be a phase ... one of those teenage things ... when they decide they want to be authentic and the entire rest of the world of course is unauthentic ...

 

Allowing her room to have her view ... gives her a lot of freedom ... And she's allowing you to say "I love you" to her, right?

 

She also could genuinely be feeling pressure to be kind and nice to everyone ... and she is feeling tired of that pressure ... but just can't fully articulate this ...

 

Not some disaster at all ... especially since she doesn't reject your love. If you're worried about her feelings towards you, you can also tell her gently that if she is unhappy with something about your relationship with her, that you would like her to tell you.

 

Thank you :). Yes, she allows me to say I love you and I'm not worried at all about her feelings toward me. I'm only worried about this sudden shift in her mindset/resolve, but I will respect it and her for at least voicing it to me. I'm super glad that she's very open to hugs, and that she loves giving and receiving them :).

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No, she isn't on the spectrum (that we know of), but she has an anxiety disorder, sensory issues, math disability and mild ADD. Maybe that's what you're thinking of. Thanks for your thoughts!

 

I have a son who has an Asperger's diagnosis. Asperger's used to be 'on the spectrum' but the doctors who make the roolz change things. It may still be. I don't keep track any more. Sensory issues? Check. Mild ADD? That was my son's previous diagnosis. Asperger's was a PitA to diagnose twenty years ago. Had to get a neuropsychological evaluation done by a PhD psychologist and then have a physician review the written report of the neuropsych and document the diagnosis. It may mean nothing or having an accurate diagnosis may be helpful getting the 'right' therapies and services. Just sayin'

 

Aside from that, I agree with others that any teen may go through phases where they are reluctant to say 'I love you'. Double on a young 'lady' dealing with her first serious romantic feelings.

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I have a son who has an Asperger's diagnosis. Asperger's used to be 'on the spectrum' but the doctors who make the roolz change things. It may still be. I don't keep track any more. Sensory issues? Check. Mild ADD? That was my son's previous diagnosis. Asperger's was a PitA to diagnose twenty years ago. Had to get a neuropsychological evaluation done by a PhD psychologist and then have a physician review the written report of the neuropsych and document the diagnosis. It may mean nothing or having an accurate diagnosis may be helpful getting the 'right' therapies and services. Just sayin'

 

Aside from that, I agree with others that any teen may go through phases where they are reluctant to say 'I love you'. Double on a young 'lady' dealing with her first serious romantic feelings.

 

She definitely checks some of the boxes. Not as much now as when she was little, though. One of my BFFs is a psychiatric social worker and we had lots of talks about that. She thought she probably was on the spectrum (and thought Asperger's, which, yes, I don't think is technically on the spectrum anymore). She's outgrown a lot of those quirky behaviors, though, and she's extremely empathetic and aware of other people's emotions, which is why I've always backed off on that dx. It also didn't come up in her psychiatric evaluation when she was diagnosed with ADD and anxiety. My cousin has Asperger's and she is absolutely nothing like him (he was a major behavior problem as a child and still can be very rude as an adult), so perhaps my measuring stick is a bit off.

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She definitely checks some of the boxes. Not as much now as when she was little, though. One of my BFFs is a psychiatric social worker and we had lots of talks about that. She thought she probably was on the spectrum (and thought Asperger's, which, yes, I don't think is technically on the spectrum anymore). She's outgrown a lot of those quirky behaviors, though, and she's extremely empathetic and aware of other people's emotions, which is why I've always backed off on that dx. It also didn't come up in her psychiatric evaluation when she was diagnosed with ADD and anxiety. My cousin has Asperger's and she is absolutely nothing like him (he was a major behavior problem as a child and still can be very rude as an adult), so perhaps my measuring stick is a bit off.

 

Just as an aside, ASD (which includes Aspergers) doesn't mean lack of empathy at all, or not being aware of people's emotions. That's a totally false stereotype. If anything, ASDs feel too much but don't know to channel, read or express emotions or feelings very well. It is a spectrum so it affects people differently but I just wanted to put it out there.

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Just as an aside, ASD (which includes Aspergers) doesn't mean lack of empathy at all, or not being aware of people's emotions. That's a totally false stereotype. If anything, ASDs feel too much but don't know to channel, read or express emotions or feelings very well. It is a spectrum so it affects people differently but I just wanted to put it out there.

 

Thank you. It is definitely a stereotype I had, so I appreciate your message. I'm going to read up on this more and how it affects older teens/adults.

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I'm going to read up on this more and how it affects older teens/adults.

 

Good luck. My ex-wife filled a bookshelf with books about Asperger's.

 

My own observation as a parent is that all the kids were individuals and each had specific sensory issues often different from each other. Our school district FINALLY found it cost-effective to stop the legal stonewalling and to establish an in-district program so a cohort of about a dozen kids with Asperger's got to go through junior high and high school together.

 

My best story is of the time it was my turn to drive a car full of the kids to a party. Three kids in the back seat interacting with each other where I couldn't tell that they were not 'neurotypical'. The irony being that they couldn't do the same nearly as well with 'true neurotypicals'.

 

The best metaphor I can come up with would be tuning the TV or radio to a different station. The good news includes that most of these kids learn to recognize when a sensory issue is impacting how they perceive other people's behavior and how to respond in a socially reasonable manner.

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Good luck. My ex-wife filled a bookshelf with books about Asperger's.

 

My own observation as a parent is that all the kids were individuals and each had specific sensory issues often different from each other. Our school district FINALLY found it cost-effective to stop the legal stonewalling and to establish an in-district program so a cohort of about a dozen kids with Asperger's got to go through junior high and high school together.

 

My best story is of the time it was my turn to drive a car full of the kids to a party. Three kids in the back seat interacting with each other where I couldn't tell that they were not 'neurotypical'. The irony being that they couldn't do the same nearly as well with 'true neurotypicals'.

 

The best metaphor I can come up with would be tuning the TV or radio to a different station. The good news includes that most of these kids learn to recognize when a sensory issue is impacting how they perceive other people's behavior and how to respond in a socially reasonable manner.

 

Pretty cool :).

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