status -in relationship and dating, money, status, job title and money money is impo

[joel]

so my chinese folks said how status is soooo important. oh you as the guy have to make the $$, have high education, and have and make lots lots of money. the women would love you. if don;t have it ,then u have to date down a girl with just a college diploma like u. or maybe not even one girl would date u.

 

 

 

do you guys think status is a major point in relationship and dating. meaning a doctor won't marry a garbage man. meaning if u have a diploma ur gf/wife possibly be a diploma grad to , but no way a bachelor degree holder, mba.

 

 

 

no way a university degree holder would marry/date a guy with a diploma/certificate. is it really that black and white. you better have the money and make great amounts of money and have a high status job to get a girl do ppl really care that much.

 

 

 

a women would more likely marry a guy b/c of status: meaning the guy

 

has a high mba degree, his family owns 2 houses, and the guy has lots lots of money in the bank. status is king. if they guy doesn;t own his house, only has a diploma , and has minimum to medium amounts of money- a good women who also has a lot won't go for u.

 

 

 

examples: lets say i'm a 2 yr diploma graduate in business management are you sayin no way no how a university degree holder girl would date me. meaning i shouldn't even ask her out. and if we do go out and date it just not going to lasts. why!! the status and money situation shes higher educated, and also make more $$ than me. what do u guys think.

 

couples break up b/c of financial reason, the guy ain't makin enough and status of what he does for a living.

 

anyone girls here dated/married to a guy who made less money and had lower education than their bf / date / husband.

[lonelybird]

I cannot breath

[taiko]

Money and education are two different things. I believe that especially the further you get away from school the less important the actual degree becomes when a woman is ranking were you fall on her social status meter.

 

More important becomes how you apply the education. For example Bill Gates would have more status then any PhD. Or the news anchor who took one media class will have more status then his writer who got his MA.

[Trialbyfire]

Education is important regardless of it having any effect on your lovelife. Go as far as you possibly can, for reasons of career.

 

Right now, your average decent job requires a bachelors of some form. Reason being is that everyone has a degree so employers can be selective. It's like the new high school education criteria of the past. Literacy is important, if for nothing else, your own ability to communicate effectively within the workforce.

[joel]

well its b/c u can't get a guy that is of higher status-doctor, lawyer , accountant, guy with bachelor degree, so u settle for these pizza guys.

 

if a girl can get the big income earners she would say she wants em, if she can't get em she says ya i don't care for money and stauts-why she accepted it that she can't get them.

 

why do some girls date guys who are lower than them-b/c htey can't get the guy who is edcuated and makes more than her-so she settles for less. reasons be-her age she is getting older harder to find a mate, she not that attractive, she has some physical flaws

 

big resaon ppl split is b/c of money. relationship and couples split b/c good % wise its money. do u guys think so

[FleshNBones]

I haven't met any women that honestly prefered educated guys. Just looks, social status, and money.

I fall into the "can't get a date category" even though I am better educated and earn more money.

[alphamale]

I haven't met any women that honestly prefered educated guys. .

i've met many attractive women that preferred to date only doctors and lawyers. they're pretty educated.

[taiko]

i've met many attractive women that preferred to date only doctors and lawyers. they're pretty educated.

 

But that is not because the University of X gave out a degree. It is because they passed their boards and are practising in an career field with the expectations of riches. Even if they will be in their 40s or served in a field hospital in Iraq to pay off the loans before those riches are realized

[Sheba]

Joel - you seem angry about the possibility that your diploma may not make you attractive to the sort of women you might want to date. If that is your issue - go to University!

 

Putting aside the shallow "I want a rich man" motivation, consider this: people tend to meet their partners at work or school (so the doctor is unlikely to meet the garbage man); people tend to feel comfortable with those who they have something in common with (so the garbage man won't feel comfortable with the doctor). Don't just consider who people hook up with romantically - consider who their friends are. Do you know a garbage man who golfs with his best pal, the doctor? As a professional woman I have sometimes felt a little shunned by the other women in my office, all of whom are non-professional support staff. They socialize together often, but I am never invited to join them despite that I know they like me and know that I like them.

[melodymatters]

I haven't found that to be true, your premise. I wish. Maybe you'll get "lucky" and find somone like me who has had many opportunities to date wealthy, prefessional men, but always seem to go for the broke, sexy, "bad boy !

 

If you're not going to get the degree, get a guitar or a harley !!!

[Hitman10000]

The most important thing on here is that you should care about is whether your use of "typed" English is legible to the viewing public.

 

Who wants to date someone who uses chat speak or mumbles random words incoherently?

[ddnnee]

listen to your elders because they know best. my parents told me this countless times and even straight out say that women love power/looks/money.

[Trialbyfire]

Oh for crying out loud, this is starting to get irritating.

 

Many guys whine about not being able to get a girl because of their own stereotypical attitudes of what makes a successful man, therefore worthy of female attention. Look to your own foibles and self-esteem issues. Once you get beyond your own base assumptions and accept, like and respect yourselves the way you are with the view to change where you're not happy with yourselves, you'll find that a relationship will fall in place.

 

Two words: SELF-CONFIDENCE

 

Read it, believe it.

[halfarock]

…accept, like and respect yourselves….you'll find that a relationship will fall in place.

 

Two words: SELF-CONFIDENCE

 

This has been my experience. I very much like and have a great deal of confidence in who I am and the things I do. Women pick up on it all the time; it’s what they tell me they like best in a man, what draws them to me. My education, occupation, and wealth are secondary concerns at best.

[Trialbyfire]

This has been my experience. I very much like and have a great deal of confidence in who I am and the things I do. Women pick up on it all the time; it’s what they tell me they like best in a man, what draws them to me.

Nice to see someone comfortable with self.

My education, occupation, and wealth are secondary concerns at best

Once again, I completely agree.

 

The flip side to this is, there are some women who do embody "the material girl". If this isn't the type of person you're interested in, steer clear.

[che_jesse]

I cant speak for anyone else but for me its never been so much a factor of the degree but that the man did not settle. Nobody really loves being a truck driver or a garbage man. If a man is stuck being a night janitor to me it says that he does have the drive to be successful in life.

 

Its not even about the money, when I met my husband we were makeing $600 a month between the two of us but we were both full time college students.

 

It took my husband a long time to find a job in his field after he graduated, that part of the economy was in a slump and overrun by Indian kids on work visas, employers were just not hiring entry level Americans that had to be payed almost twice as much. A lot of the people that graduated with the same degree as my husband at the same time gave up on the job search after 6 months, they took either very low paying and short term positions that would have been impossible to even use on a resume or they just totally left the field.

 

It meant a lot to me when my husband stuck it out and eventually found a really nice job using his degree. It was entry level and only paying 55k but it was not about the money, that would come later, but we knew it would come because hes working in his field for a wonderful company instead of settling for a lot less.

 

To me its more a character trait then the actual money.

[Topper]

a lot of this thread has focused on social class. we Hear that it is the self confidence that make the Man. a few post later if a man works with his hands or drives a truck he must be settling.

in general even in this day Woman still would rather have a man that earns more then she does. A Professional woman would find it very hard to date and or have a relationship with a Truck Driver. Even if he was the most confident and happy guy around. Some people do like to drive trucks. Some Like being in the trades. Many Plumbers make more then businessmen who are working their way up the corporate ladder. I know carpenters that are now building contractors that make mid level 6 figure incomes. Many are great guys fun full of live doing something they love. Many woman are conscious of social standing. They would not consider marring a man who did not have a degree. They want to marry the guy with the right degree from the right school he works at the right job. She also works untill it is time to raise the family. They have the house in the right part of town. She shops at the best stores. This is how a lot of woman are competitive with each other. Their Kids are brighter, Go to better schools. Husbands are moving up and earning more. a reason that many woman in their 30s and 40s are not married because they still want that " Right guy" They won't look at the guy who is so called Blue collor worker. A Man will marry a woman that is so called socially below him and bring her up into his class. Yet woman will seldom do the same. There is still that stigma that she married beneath herself.

[konfuzd]

Joel,

 

All of your posts here are about how you can't get a date because you don't have a car, you don't have enough piercings, you are not of high enough social status...

 

All of the responses to all of your posts are the same as well: these things don't matter, it is about honest self confidence.

 

The reason you can't get a date is that you whine, make constant excuses, and don't listen to constructive advice people are giving you. What you need to do is go out, find something that makes you happy, realise your strengths, focus on them and learn to love yourself because if you can't, sure as hell no one else will want to love you either.

 

If you can't gain the self confidence on your own, or by the prodding of loveshack members, go seek counciling. You need to get out of this rut of not beeing good enough for x or y reason. You are good enough for somebody, you need to go find her with an "I deserve her, and can get her" attitude.

[Green]

hmm I often wonder if I wasnt so educated, rich, and good looking would I have such pick of all the women... well who cares hahahah

[joel]

ya but u tellin me u would date a guy that made less than u and less education. i mean why and how come. don;t u want to date up and go up in the ladder. just weird. i heard in asina culture its all about face and what u do and what ur partner does.

 

weird i tell ya. its like why get married in the first place if ya goin have to marry to someone less than u(money and education wise). i mean everything in life is money money money. why u think so many ppl work and become doctors, lawyers or go to univ-why b/c they want to make more $$

[halfarock]

i mean everything in life is money money money

 

Not to everyone.

[halfarock]

Nobody really loves being a truck driver

My little brother is a truck driver. He went to truck driving school and finished top in his class, which he is very proud of. He also participates in truck rodeos and does well. As far as I can tell, he really loves his job – traveling cross country and all that.

[konfuzd]

I have a successful career, and I'd say 90% of the guys I have dated made less money than me. It was never a factor for me, but has been in some cases for them. I've had a few guys tell me they were intimidated by my position, and they were too uncomfortable to continue the relationship. Their loss.

 

I have dated a guy who worked in a lumber yard, a warehouse worker and a guy who worked at a printing press. None of them made a lot of money or drove nice cars etc.. but I was with them because of outside interests and personalities.

[Trialbyfire]

Once again OP, what is your priority? If you value materialism, you will look for someone who is similar. In doing so without having the credentials, what do you think the end result will be?

 

I'm a sucker for an intelligent man. He doesn't have to be wealthy or drop-dead gorgeous. The social status is meaningless to me, although I'm a firm believer in education making a difference for the good of that person. Having said that, I've also met a lot of intelligent men who aren't doctors or lawyers.

[taiko]

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