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Old 13th August 2006, 11:14 PM   #1
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I was reading up on man about different personality disorders, sociopaths, anti social, workaholics,etc...

and to my chagrin discovered I'm the one with the problem..it was well defined under narcissist.

though I have thrown that term loosely about my self now and again failed to believe it could actually be true, obviously a narcissist would think that right?

anyway after more investigation it doesn't seem to me there is counseling or a magic pill to cure this disorder.

any thoughts on me helping myself to humanity will be deeply appreciated
thanks

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Old 13th August 2006, 11:24 PM   #2
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I've been around the block a number of times and this is the very first time I have seen a TRUE narcissist ask for help!

The problem is very deep seated and requires the services of a highly skilled psychologist. Sorry, not many ways we can serve you here on this board except to give you support and many kudos for throwing in the towel. This malady is a real booger to extricate from one's personality.

If you can't afford a counsellor, at least google the subject. There are a lot of resources on the Internet.
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Old 13th August 2006, 11:28 PM   #3
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What makes you so sure you are a socio/narc ex...

Give me details, well there is hope for you, unless this is some scammed plot Just kidding
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Old 13th August 2006, 11:56 PM   #4
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I've been around the block a number of times and this is the very first time I have seen a TRUE narcissist ask for help!

The problem is very deep seated and requires the services of a highly skilled psychologist. Sorry, not many ways we can serve you here on this board except to give you support and many kudos for throwing in the towel. This malady is a real booger to extricate from one's personality.

If you can't afford a counsellor, at least google the subject. There are a lot of resources on the Internet.
thats the thing tony, after reading much and learning more it doesn't look like there is real help out there for me, unless I am a true blue sociopath which I don't think I'm that bad...yet.

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What makes you so sure you are a socio/narc ex...

Give me details, well there is hope for you, unless this is some scammed plot Just kidding
oh according to this book I am..and it even has a test in it..ugh!!
okay I'll write down the things in the check list I hit on..it's disturbing to me really...here goes

grandiose sense of self importance

preoccupation with fantasies of beauty,brilliance,ideal love, power, or limitless success

need for excessive admiration

sense of entitlement

lack of empathy (does not recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others)

belief that others envy them

arrogance or haughtiness in attitude or behavior

reluctance to accept blame or criticism

absence of altruism,though some gestures may be made for appearances

shallowness

-they are known to withdraw at the slightest perceived slight I underscore that because Ive done this my whole life..burn bridges instantly..

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Old 14th August 2006, 12:00 AM   #5
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oh according to this book I am..and it even has a test in it..ugh!!
okay I'll write down the things in the check list I hit on..it's disturbing to me really...here goes

grandiose sense of self importance

preoccupation with fantasies of beauty,brilliance,ideal love, power, or limitless success

need for excessive admiration

sense of entitlement

lack of empathy (does not recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others)

belief that others envy them

arrogance or haughtiness in attitude or behavior

reluctance to accept blame or criticism

absence of altruism,though some gestures may be made for appearances

shallowness

-they are known to withdraw at the slightest perceived slight
Well, a number of those seem like characteristics of many people. So how are you different?

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Old 14th August 2006, 12:01 AM   #6
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Hey, I'm one too!

Look, I'm joking. My point is that we can all see some of these traits in ourselves! I think it comes down to a matter of DEGREE. And that's up to the professionals I guess, to decide.

Don't diagnose yourself. You're not qualified to do so. You're probably way off base here.

I don't even think a N would admit or even recognize that they posess these traits.

Find something else to worry about.
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:01 AM   #7
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Do you want to change? If so, then go get help. Make the appointment first thing tomorrow morning with your DR, let him/her make a referral to get you an assessment.

Noone here can diagnose you, a book really can't either...Someone trained in the right field CAN though...
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:18 AM   #8
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The other thing is, most N's wouldn't bother replying to ANY threads to help anybody - I see you reply to people's posts and show concern and care...

Just consider that before you write yourself off as an N.
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:20 AM   #9
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The other thing is, most N's wouldn't bother replying to ANY threads to help anybody - I see you reply to people's posts and show concern and care...

Just consider that before you write yourself off as an N.
Hey Witch! You just took the words out of my mouth! I just saw her post and thought the same thing.
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:21 AM   #10
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I agree with the " degree thing" I think alot of us carry these traits but a real true narc/ sociopath woulden't dare think twice something was wrong with them. You just consist of some of the traits that fit the profile of that. If you think its sad than I really think your conscious is up too date
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:22 AM   #11
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Thanks. I changed it to "people."
I just don't want to be one of those people with a puffed up image of self importance..yet it seems I do and like touche said..I should worry about something else however I can look back and see where this has deeply effected my life and relationships with others.

I will make that appointment WWIU but I am worried my DR will think it's just me self diagnosing again..yep this isn't the first time..the last time I seen him I told him I had adult attention deficit..yet he won't refer me to a shrink which is what I wanted in the first place..I do see I am flawed and need to see someone quick.

btw..thanks to those who has seen me post in a helpful way..sometimes I just don't see things that way
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:25 AM   #12
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Lover..could it be that maybe you're just a hypochondriac (sp?)

I mean we're all screwed up to some degree or another. Why do you need to slap a label on yourself? Just try to be the best YOU that you can be.
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:26 AM   #13
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Then google cognitive behaviour therapists and see who's available in your area. With some, you don't have to be referred to them.

Your DR is an idiot, if someone is asking for help, isn't it his job to HELP?? Which is what you're asking for. If he won't help you, then find another DR. That's crazy.

One thing that could help you now is, start a daily journal of your thoughts and feelings. Put down anything and everything that comes into your head.
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:31 AM   #14
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Lover..could it be that maybe you're just a hypochondriac (sp?)

I mean we're all screwed up to some degree or another. Why do you need to slap a label on yourself? Just try to be the best YOU that you can be.
I remember about 4 years ago I started getting really bad migraines. I had flashes in my eyes, was dizzy and felt sick to my stomach...OFcourse, I googled it all and MOST of the information I came up with said "brain tumour"... Nice ... That freaked me out and I talked to my DR about it, she referred me to a Neurologist. Yeah, no brain tumour and it turned out the Pill was giving me the migraines so they took me off of it asap!

It's too easy to sit and diagnose yourself with the internet. Some information is so helpful, but alot of it is quite scary and if you allow it to scare you, you can convince yourself of various ailments. (Which chances are, you don't have.)

Touche is right, everybody is screwed up to a point. Noone is perfect and as we get older, we get more quirks and odd things that make us seem abit nutty...
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:33 AM   #15
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we really do all have our own problems and I don't think you will be considered narc/socio/borderline/ . We all have self grandiose to some degree. Simply because we are our own person we only feel what we feel, we can sympthasize with others but our prime importance is ourselves and what we can do to make our happy( in most cases ). I don't think there is one person out there who doesn't have any problems. Narc/ socio are people with out a conscience or with only feelings for themselves

Do you have good relationships? with parents/ friends ex...How are things in that department? Do you excessively lie?
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