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Old 15th April 2004, 5:52 AM   #1
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Question Why Do Bad Things Happen to Good People?

Does God cares for us but can't help? or He can help us but doesn't care?
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Old 15th April 2004, 8:24 AM   #2
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That's not His job.

He's just watching out for us. Watching over us. It's like a parent helping his kid learn to ride a bike. The parent can only do so much, but the kid has to do the work to really accomplish anything.

God can't make things happen. That would be imposing over free will, and that ain't His MO.

Blaming God on the bad things in life, or the good things in life too, makes no sense to me. It's not like He's up there laughing to himself, "Haha, what can I do to screw up THIS person's life?" Though sometimes it may feel like it, that's not how it is. At least I personally don't believe so.
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Old 15th April 2004, 9:10 AM   #3
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Re: Why Do Bad Things Happen to Good People?

There is no god. Bad things happen to everyone sometimes and so do good things. WE have to captain our own lives and decide what constitutes bad and good for us and apply it to each situation.
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Old 15th April 2004, 9:46 AM   #4
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Does God cares for us but can't help? or He can help us but doesn't care?

In my opinion, neither one is true.

God can help you at any point you allow Him to without Him over-riding your will. Your 'will' being associated with your option to make choices.

Example: You get arrested for drugs. You need God's help...so you tell him something corny like...if you help me...I won't do it again. God has the capacity of delivering you from your drug habit and miraculouly getting you out of your big mess. HOWEVER, His help may come with conditions. WHY? Because He isn't as concerned with your mess as He is your heart. Maybe you have a pain inside you eating you alive, maybe you were abused as a child, maybe your self esteem is so low you can't face your own self....maybe any number of things. So, God may say something like "Let's get your heart straightened up and address the REAL problem, then I'll take care of this mess it's created." At this point, it's YOUR choice if you want to move forward within the conditions He has set before you.

Someone giving mental assent that they believe in God and someone giving him access to their heart....is two different things. Rather than facing the root of their problems, they just stay angry because they think God didn't love them enough to care. When in fact, God cared TOO MUCH just to throw them a bandaid. He wanted to heal the entire wound.

One of my favorite scriptures is: You have not because you asked not. And when you did ask...you asked wrong. This doesn't mean you didn't use the right verbage or neglected some man made ritutal. What it means is....you didn't ask with the correct intent of the heart. You just wanted to lose weight...without wanting to address why you over eat in the first place.

There are certainly things in life which happen that I nor anyone one else can explain. There also seems to be a great deal of things which God doesn't explain. But in MOST cases....It's man....not God...who hinders miracles.

For the record, this is only MY personal opinion. I don't debate God's Word because He said NOT TO.

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Old 15th April 2004, 9:57 AM   #5
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Well.

Technically...HE didn't say that.

A book did. Written thousands of years ago. Written by a bunch of guys who heard it from other guys. Etc.
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Old 15th April 2004, 10:12 AM   #6
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That was a great reply Arabess! Very clear. I've heard others try to say almost the same thing, but they get all fumbled up in their explanation. Great job!
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Old 15th April 2004, 10:23 AM   #7
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If bad things never happened, you'd have no idea if something good was happening.
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Old 15th April 2004, 10:40 AM   #8
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Tony, but it's enough to see bad things happen to OTHERS, to know that good things are happening to me, isn't it?

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Old 15th April 2004, 10:43 AM   #9
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"Tony, but it's enough to see bad things happen to OTHERS, to know that good things are happening to me, isn't it?"

You can never know what hunger is until you are hungry yourself.
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Old 15th April 2004, 2:42 PM   #10
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I believe everyone has a destiny. Everyone has their own roadmap to paradise. My brother was diagnosed with cancer 3 years ago. If they would've waited two more weeks to diagnose him, he would've been gone. At that time to see him go through all that pain was unbearable. He never did anyone wrong. He has a good heart and a good soul.

Why did this happen to him? Well he's in remission now and looks like he'll be cured. But even going through this I learned alot. I learned that I was so comfortable in having a loving family that I in a sense took them for granted. Kinda like how teenagers think they are invincible. That I always assume they would be there. It opened my eyes to so many things I couldn've even know where to start.

God has given us life and the choices to what we do with it. God can't control our lives like the other poster said. He doesn't create diasters or disease. And what Arabess said is the truth. Nice post
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Old 15th April 2004, 2:46 PM   #11
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to tony...

True, but having cut your finger is enough to know that having your arm cut off would be BAD.

But I agree that you can't enjoy the good without knowing the bad.

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Old 15th April 2004, 3:40 PM   #12
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You know, I read once in a Buddhist teaching that things aren't bad, they aren't good - they just ARE.

Take away the adjectives then all you have are simply a serios of events...
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Old 15th April 2004, 8:51 PM   #13
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Actually, yes, there is a book with that very title written, I believe, by a rabbi. You might want to look it up.
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Old 15th April 2004, 8:56 PM   #14
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yup

i tend to believe the quote "because life sucks and then you die" even though life doesn't suck
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Old 15th April 2004, 8:57 PM   #15
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I've always said...when bad things happen to good people, it's tough shxt. And vice versa. Simple as that!

The book moimeme was speaking of is: "When Bad Things Happen to Good People" by Dr. Harold S Kushner. It was published sometime in the mid-80's.
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