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Old 28th January 2004, 7:03 PM   #1
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Cardio question

well im abou 225 & 6 foot
But beyond that I was wondering should cardio be dun before aweight lifting exercise or after for better effectivity?
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Old 28th January 2004, 7:07 PM   #2
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It depends on what you want to do. If you want to gain muscle and lose fat, cardio is best done after weight training. If do cardio first, you will have relatively little energy left ofr lifting, which will slow your weight training progress.
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Old 30th January 2004, 5:31 PM   #3
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cnd

I love the way in which you give advise. You ojective and well informed. You must be in good shape. Ah by the way I finally droped some weight.

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Old 30th January 2004, 5:34 PM   #4
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Hey - that is great news! Congrats!!
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Old 30th January 2004, 5:44 PM   #5
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My body is funny.

I loose inches, but it doesn reflect on the scale. When it finally reflects on the scale is all the weight loss in one shot (like 5 lbs.) my weigh loss only reflects the 3rd week of the month. Isn't that weird?
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Old 30th January 2004, 5:50 PM   #6
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Hey - take it however you can get it!

Seriously, this can happen, especially at the start of a new diet and when you are working out with weights (the muscle you are adding weighs more than the fat you are losing). The inches are the key because this is what people see, what drives your dress size, etc.
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Old 30th January 2004, 5:53 PM   #7
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tackleboxteddybear .. as cdn was saying... it is recommended to warm up with cardio before weight training, but not for longer than 20 minutes. If your goal is to increase muscle mass you should do cardio after weight training.

If you goal is to lose fat and increase muscle.... you should do cardio in the morning on an empty stomach and weight training at a different time.

Muscle and fitness Online has some great tips.

http://www.muscleandfitness.com/mf/w...2/5_weeks.html
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Old 31st January 2004, 7:31 PM   #8
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thank you

Your advise is very nice.
Do you recomend getting a scale to moniter weight loss?
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Old 1st February 2004, 6:31 AM   #9
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Shoud I start out with

walking to warm up for cardio cause I know I cant jog more than a half mile if not a full one
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Old 1st February 2004, 7:55 PM   #10
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My understanding...

...is that a very light cardio before, then weights, then heavier cardio after, as has been mentioned here.

What was explained to me is that the muscles themselves store a sort of "quick draw" type of energy in them called glycogen. During exertion, it will draw this energy first. In other words, before it burns fat reserves.

A light cardio, will get you warmed up, but take it easy on it. Weight lift. That will use up your glycogen, but that is OK, you want the most exertion for lifting to create the greatest effect. If you cardio then afterward for 30-45 minutes, your bod will have to go after the deeper reserves to keep up. In other words, it will have to burn fat.

If you cardio off all of your glycogen first, your weight training will be less effective, and you will not have burned as much fat.

On the other hand, a really good weight training prog coupled with a good cardio prog will be great. Think of it as burning fat with a V-8 as oppossed to burning fat with a 4-banger. More muscle mass burns more calories for the same amount of work.

I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV, but this was explained to me by a trainer, and seems to be on the level - and it works for me.
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Old 2nd February 2004, 11:09 AM   #11
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If you cardio off all of your glycogen first, your weight training will be less effective, and you will not have burned as much fat.
Yep, and you can hurt yourself working with weights while over-fatigued. Best to do the weight well rested so you can focus on proper form.
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Old 2nd February 2004, 11:21 AM   #12
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Re: My understanding...

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What was explained to me is that the muscles themselves store a sort of "quick draw" type of energy in them called glycogen. During exertion, it will draw this energy first. In other words, before it burns fat reserves.
This is spot on. If you hit the cardio hard, as your first activity, you will deplete your glycogen stores, leaving nothing for your weight training. Worse yet is that your cardio won't do anything for your fat stores, since it will have been fueled by glycogen.

Your best bet is a very light (10 min) warm up -- maybe some brisk walking but nothing very demanding. Then weight train. After the weight training (when all your glycogen stores have been depleted), hit the cardio for real. Then you'll be burning fat.

The caveat: if you want to lose weight, the you must reduce your caloric intake. You cannot burn enough calories through cardio to make this an efficient or reasonable means of weight loss.

Also, hit the weights hard. You should be working while you lift. There is no benefit to many light-weight repetitions. I know we've all been told that light weight/high reps leads to "tone" and that high weight/low reps leads to "bulk" but this is false. Very few of us are genetically programmed to be really big (this goes double for women) and you won't look like the hulk no matter what you do unless you start taking drugs.

As for a scale, it will help you monitor your progress (as will the fit of your clothes). If you are going to a gym, they will have one there.
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Old 3rd February 2004, 7:36 PM   #13
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Scales are a pain

From my personal experience scales are a pain in the butt. I have been paying too much attention to mine and failed to realized the changes that in my body. It is better if you use the scale at the gym only once a week or every two weeks so you can maintain your sanity.

If you are weight training you may not loose weight at the beginning. Don't let that disappoint you.

good Luck!
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