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Old 26th September 2009, 3:00 PM   #1
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Define 'bisexual'.

I have a guy friend who people have constantly defined as gay. He does like girls. However, since the beginning of this year, he has been attracted to guys. He will say something like, "That guy is so hot", or, "I wanna make out with him so badly". Since January, he has made out with two or three guys that I know of and has talked about doing more with some guys.

He swears up and down he still likes girls and that he has to have romantic feelings for someone to be bisexual. I told him that bisexual was defined as a general attraction to both sexes, but he denies it completely. I believe he is in denial and fear of not being accepted.

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Old 7th October 2009, 11:46 AM   #2
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He's probably confused as to what he wants. You are right that bisexuality is a general attraction to both sexes.
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Old 7th October 2009, 12:08 PM   #3
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yep.if he's thinking about females and still banging dudes he's bi.

Who knows?
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Old 9th October 2009, 4:05 PM   #4
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maybe he is afraid of what he is feeling towards the guys so its easier to say he still likes girls... but bisexuality means you will enjoy having sex and/or emotional relationship with both sexes. he needs to be attracted to girls not only like them but dont worry about it, he will figure it out sooner or later, just try being supportive and making sure he knows u dont care about his sexual orientation, bi or gay u will love him no matter what.
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Old 9th October 2009, 4:08 PM   #5
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I told him that bisexual was defined as a general attraction to both sexes, but he denies it completely.
being "bisexual" is generally reserved for the young who may not yet know which sex they are attracted to most. over time they figure it out and generally prefer one sex over the other.

so in essence being truly bisexual is a bunch of hooey. how many 50 year old bisexuals do you run into?
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Old 9th October 2009, 4:25 PM   #6
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being "bisexual" is generally reserved for the young who may not yet know which sex they are attracted to most. over time they figure it out and generally prefer one sex over the other.

so in essence being truly bisexual is a bunch of hooey. how many 50 year old bisexuals do you run into?
hmm i dont agree...

i know thousands of bi ppl, my ex mother in law is bisexual and she is 56 years old.

The only thing that happen is that once they have a relationship, a long term one or even get married, to one of the sexes they "assume" the gay/hetero stereotype. I mean, if a male who was bi all his life, had lots of female/male partners but at the end he got married to a woman, he will live his life as a heterosexual but that doenst mean he will stop having sexual attraction to other men, he wont act on it, as much as he wont act on his attraction regarding other women, cause he is married not because he isnt bisexual!
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Old 9th October 2009, 4:29 PM   #7
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hmm i dont agree...

i know thousands of bi ppl, my ex mother in law is bisexual and she is 56 years old.

The only thing that happen is that once they have a relationship, a long term one or even get married, to one of the sexes they "assume" the gay/hetero stereotype. I mean, if a male who was bi all his life, had lots of female/male partners but at the end he got married to a woman, he will live his life as a heterosexual but that doenst mean he will stop having sexual attraction to other men, he wont act on it, as much as he wont act on his attraction regarding other women, cause he is married not because he isnt bisexual!
the research and experts say that everyone eventually prefers one sex over the other so there really is no such thing as true bisexuality.
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Old 9th October 2009, 4:32 PM   #8
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the research and experts say that everyone eventually prefers one sex over the other so there really is no such thing as true bisexuality.
lol

maybe its just a matter of diff point of views. cause i really believe that there is such thing. i have it around me and they are real ppl with real feelings, so who am i to question their feelings or whatever? neither experts can
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sorry, thats just BS.
i don't think so
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Old 10th October 2009, 7:33 PM   #10
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sorry, thats just BS.

Bisexual means you get sexually turned on by both the male and female form. Nothing more, nothing less. If you like both sexes in a sexual manner, then you are bisexual.

Let me give an example: If you are male and you look at playboy magazine and get a boner, then look at playgirl magazine and get a boner, you are bisexual.
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Old 22nd October 2009, 11:18 PM   #11
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I have a guy friend who people have constantly defined as gay. He does like girls. However, since the beginning of this year, he has been attracted to guys. He will say something like, "That guy is so hot", or, "I wanna make out with him so badly". Since January, he has made out with two or three guys that I know of and has talked about doing more with some guys.

He swears up and down he still likes girls and that he has to have romantic feelings for someone to be bisexual. I told him that bisexual was defined as a general attraction to both sexes, but he denies it completely. I believe he is in denial and fear of not being accepted.

Help?

Quite possible.

He will deal with it when he is ready. He's clearly not ready yet.

I wouldn't really care either way, unless I wanted to have something more than friendship.

It isn't that big of deal is it?
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Old 23rd October 2009, 1:17 AM   #12
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It could be a number of things. He may be genuinely bisexual--i.e. attracted to both men and women. Or he could be a gay man still comoing to terms with his identity. The next few years will likely tell.
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Old 14th November 2009, 3:38 AM   #13
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i don't think so
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Old 18th November 2009, 10:45 AM   #14
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I have a guy friend who people have constantly defined as gay. He does like girls. However, since the beginning of this year, he has been attracted to guys. He will say something like, "That guy is so hot", or, "I wanna make out with him so badly". Since January, he has made out with two or three guys that I know of and has talked about doing more with some guys.

He swears up and down he still likes girls and that he has to have romantic feelings for someone to be bisexual. I told him that bisexual was defined as a general attraction to both sexes, but he denies it completely. I believe he is in denial and fear of not being accepted.

Help?
Right, except it is a 'sexual' rather than 'general' attraction to both sexes.

You can actually express it very simply in terms of propositional logic:

b = a + g

(where b = bisexuality, a = androphilia, and g = gynophilia)

Whereas heterosexuality would be:

he = xx + a OR xy + g

(where he = heterosexuality. xx = female, and xy = male)

Homosexuality:

ho = xx + g OR xy + a

(where ho = homosexuality)

That's it: its that simple. People who fit one formula and yet claim that they fit another are either a) confused, or b) deliberately trying to avoid the stigma of some label they don't like. This is why I think its such nonsense, for example, for women to say things like: "I'm totally straight but I would totally sleep with girl x." If you are attracted enough to people of both genders to want to engage in sexual activities with them (and I don't mean just what is typically defined as 'the sex act'), then you are bisexual. Aside from wanting to avoid this label, I think where a lot of people make a mistake is that they think they have to be just as attracted to girls as they are guys, or vice versa, but there is nothing in the definition of bisexuality that requires a 50/50 split in the intensity of sexual attraction to individuals of one gender vs another.

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the research and experts say that everyone eventually prefers one sex over the other so there really is no such thing as true bisexuality.
I am skeptical. Cite your evidence -- one quality paper will do.
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