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Old 3rd September 2008, 5:15 PM   #1
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How to get the questions answered? LONG..

Hi all,

New to the board. It was recommended by a friend that has been through infidelity with H and said it really helped.

I will break down the history. Not married been together 5 years and have a 4 yr old daughter together, but consider him my H. There was a W we knew who dated one of H friend last year and upon that break up OW looked to my H for help. I found out and put a stop to the innappriate contact, OW has friends and family for that. From all the signs and investigating I believe it did stop. Flash forward to year later and we briefly split but reconcilled but while on our seperation aparently they contacted each other (well to be honest he contacted her.) One day when he left his phone behind I recognized the number, confronted him and he passed it off as she was just a friend. I said that it was inappriate and should stop he agreed. There were a few texts back and forth through the following six weeks but nothing serious. Well to say it slapped me in the face about a week ago is an understatement. He was under alot of stress (I know not an excuss) and started acting funny so I checked his phone when he went to bed. Saw texts that well you can't read between the lines. By the morning I had left before he even got up needed to clear my head (very out of charactor to leave and not say where I was going). Upon my return we had to have phone conversation b/c he wasn't home. I brought up the texts and he said they were jokes. Yeah haha not laughing. He said he felt that I wasn't there for him through all his stress, in my mind things had been going very well since our reconcilation better than ever. He ended the conversation with don't worry he loved me and would be home in a couple of hours and we would have a big discussion but everything would be ok. 6 hours later not home no one has heard from him (he had borrowed a friends vehicle and friend was starting to get pi**ed) I had to leave as I had plans with my family. I had come to the rationalization that he in fact was with her. I proceeded to my family's looking like crap of course and had to let them in on what had happened. Family was hughly p***ed to say the least. I ended up staying the night. Woke up in the morning went home to start packing his s**t and walk into him in my bed. I thought the beeping nerve, I told him to get out of my home. At this point he was still denying saying there was nothing going on. I left and my S went to confront him. He said it just happend, he was sorry. I returned knowing now that I had it confirmed went through the whole how could you do this yelling, crying questioned how he could do this to my daughters future. He was a basketcase (I have seen him cry but not like this), couldn't believe what he had done I stormed out with him crying out he is sorry. On my departure I said under no circumstances is my daughter to ever be around the wh**e she didn't care enough about in the first place to rip apart her world why would she care after the fact. He text later that afternoon that he told her good bye.
Flash forward to today we have been in contact mainly through texts and it looks like we might try and work it out. I am not kidding myself to think that yes it might be better this time and he won't cheat. I know that it will take time and complete honesty with ever aspect of our relationship. I don't want him to return to the house until he has taken care of his issues but I want answers and have every right to want them. We are supposed to go to dinner tonight and I want to ask the right questions the how long? has she contacted him since? and most importantly WHY?? Do I just jump right in or ease up to it? And if the answer is ease up to it then how do I start the hard questions!! I am so lost right now.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated and sorry it is so long.
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Old 3rd September 2008, 6:31 PM   #2
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Why are you still wanting to be with this man, or whatever he is?! Do you honestly think he'd put up with you banging another man? Really, if you're not married, I'd dump this loser, because if he's cheated already, imagine what he'd be doing while you're married!

BTW, you can still get child support from this man! The laws are still in favor of women, although they are beginning to shift towards mens rights!
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Old 8th September 2008, 12:26 PM   #3
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I'm with Darth here.. why stay with him? Sure, you have feelings for him and you share a child but really, is this the sort of environment you want to raise your child in?

His excuse for cheating was because you were not there for him through his time of need but the OW was. So, in the future, should there be one and if you're both married and something similiar should unfold, who's to say he won't stray yet again?

Plenty of woman do just fine being single while raising their child. He can still be in the child's life and can help financially support them but don't you deserve better? Someone who will love you and only you?
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Old 8th September 2008, 1:13 PM   #4
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Not married been together 5 years and have a 4 yr old daughter together, but consider him my H.
But he obviously doesn't consider you his wife .

Why 5 years together with a child but no marriage?

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Old 8th September 2008, 1:29 PM   #5
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I have been exactly where your are. I gave my H another chance only after I saw that he was working on his own problems and willing to do whatever it took to fix our relationship. As far as getting the answers, ask and if you don't feel like he is being 100% honest with you, he isn't ready to commit to you.

Just ask! You shouldn't have to worry about how to ask or when. If you have questions, be clear that you want answers or there will be no chance of any kind of reconciliation. He owes that to you!
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Old 8th September 2008, 1:51 PM   #6
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You and your child are better off without him. It sounds like you are the only responsible adult here and also like you have a good support system in friends and family.

I have chosen to stay in my marriage agter I had discovered my husband cheating. So, if that is the route you are determined to take, although you ARE the victim - you have to take yourself out of those shoes and make him take the responsibility and consequences for his actions.

Him taking responsibility includes full disclosure to any degree you deem fit healthy for you. It may mean having a conversation with the OW.
It is really really hard to forgive someone of something unless you know the facts. I mean, without them, you arent even sure what his problems really are.

If you dont feel you have enough information yet to make decisions, you are completely correct to ask him any questions you want. You dont have to have proof of anything. This is your and your child's life. Unless there extenuating circumstances, you should really consider bailing.
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Old 8th September 2008, 2:03 PM   #7
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I say kick him out! If you don't want to do that which most women don't - make him marry you! You have 2 kids together and if he doesn't do that move on. You and your kids deserve better.
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Old 8th September 2008, 9:51 PM   #8
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I say kick him out! If you don't want to do that which most women don't - make him marry you! You have 2 kids together and if he doesn't do that move on. You and your kids deserve better.

Um, why marry that? She'd do alot better without him!
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Old 9th September 2008, 9:39 AM   #9
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Um, why marry that? She'd do alot better without him!

I agree totally!!! But, these women don't want to give these losers up!
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Old 9th September 2008, 10:12 AM   #10
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The guy sounds like my wife’s ex-H; married for many years he had several affairs she found out about while they where married and several more she found out he had while they where married, since there divorce. What she told me sounds almost exactly like what you wrote, especially the part about how upset and sorry he was when confronted, every time. When he did leave her it was for a much younger woman, (girl). The kicker is, he wanted to get back together with her, (this was before we met), and she actually considered it until she found out he was still with this other girl.
[Today she says she doesn’t know what she was thinking, belittling herself that way

I was also married for many years before my ex began to cheat on me, (that I know of). I tried to fix it more for the sake of preserving the family, (our kids are grown and on their own, thank God), but after the second confirmed affair and at least one, one night stand she was out of here. Don't misunderstad, it was very difficult and even though you’re not married you've been together for 5 years and have a child together so it won’t be easy but I agree with the others; loose him and don’t look back. I don’t know if I necessarily believe in the adage; once a cheater always a cheater. But from personal experience and observation it seems to hold water.

P.S. my adult children do not know the real reason for our divorce. They have a right to feel warm and fuzzy about their mom too, the b**ch

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Old 9th September 2008, 8:08 PM   #11
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P.S. my adult children do not know the real reason for our divorce. They have a right to feel warm and fuzzy about their mom too, the b**ch
So..... Why not tell them? Did she let you keep the house, or not screw you over for money? What was the price?! I just hope you didn't have to pay it!
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Old 10th September 2008, 12:17 PM   #12
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So..... Why not tell them? Did she let you keep the house, or not screw you over for money? What was the price?! I just hope you didn't have to pay it!

Because she’s their mother? How many people would like to hear that their mom tramped around? Listen; she became a bad wife not a bad mother

We split everything 50/50. Except credit card bills she ran up. She got to keep those. It would have cost more to drag it out. Actually; I did get to keep the house but I sold it to her a year or so later, (for a small profit), when I left the area. As I said; I was stupid for trying to hold the marriage together but while you’re in the middle of it, divorce seemed far worse than what I was going through. Yes, I feel stupid now for trying to hold it together as long as I did. In retrospect; the day the judge declared the divorce final I left the court room feeling defeated, alone, rejected and at the same time like the weight of the world had been lifted off of my shoulders.
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So..... Why not tell them? Did she let you keep the house, or not screw you over for money? What was the price?! I just hope you didn't have to pay it!
Because she’s their mother? How many people would like to hear that their mom tramped around? Listen; she became a bad wife not a bad mother

We split everything 50/50. Except credit card bills she ran up. She got to keep those. It would have cost more to drag it out. Actually; I did get to keep the house but I sold it to her a year or so later, (for a small profit), when I left the area. As I said; I was stupid for trying to hold the marriage together but while you’re in the middle of it, divorce seemed far worse than what I was going through. Yes, I feel stupid now for trying to hold it together as long as I did. In retrospect; the day the judge declared the divorce final I left the court room feeling defeated, alone, rejected and at the same time like the weight of the world had been lifted off of my shoulders.
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So..... Why not tell them? Did she let you keep the house, or not screw you over for money? What was the price?! I just hope you didn't have to pay it!
Because she’s their mother? How many people would like to hear that their mom tramped around? Listen; she became a bad wife not a bad mother

We split everything 50/50. Except credit card bills she ran up. She got to keep those. It would have cost more to drag it out. Actually; I did get to keep the house but I sold it to her a year or so later, (for a small profit), when I left the area. As I said; I was stupid for trying to hold the marriage together but while you’re in the middle of it, divorce seemed far worse than what I was going through. Yes, I feel stupid now for trying to hold it together as long as I did. In retrospect; the day the judge declared the divorce final I left the court room feeling defeated, alone, rejected and at the same time like the weight of the world had been lifted off of my shoulders.
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Old 10th September 2008, 12:25 PM   #15
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Sorry about the repeated posts, i suck at this :d
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