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Old 2nd July 2008, 6:05 PM   #1
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Feminism and Opposition to Marriage

Has anyone had experience with divorce or other problems related to a strongly feminist wife who decides that marriage is patriarchial and anti-woman?
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Old 2nd July 2008, 6:18 PM   #2
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I laughed. Anti woman my ass. Does your wife know that ancient man had many women simultaneously?

Modern day marriage is a way for women to lock down the natural state of man. Marriage today is a perversion of our natural instinct as a man. We are meant to spread our seed through out the masses. Survival of the fittest and smartest and what have you.

Hence, why the most attractive men are the best looking, most physically fit, and most financially secure. I'm an alpha male and quite proud. Get off me you stinky womens!
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Old 2nd July 2008, 9:34 PM   #3
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I laughed. Anti woman my ass. Does your wife know that ancient man had many women simultaneously?

Modern day marriage is a way for women to lock down the natural state of man. Marriage today is a perversion of our natural instinct as a man. We are meant to spread our seed through out the masses. Survival of the fittest and smartest and what have you.

Hence, why the most attractive men are the best looking, most physically fit, and most financially secure. I'm an alpha male and quite proud. Get off me you stinky womens!

Wow! You must be really selfish in bed if the whole purpose of your existence is to "spread your seed".
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Old 3rd July 2008, 1:48 AM   #4
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I' say this about the feminist wives. it's kinda contradictory to be anti man and be married to one.

As a man who marries a woman, that man has your back, thick and thin. IT's really counterproductive for a man to love a woman when she doesnt have their combined best interestss at heart and puts herself first selfishly.

What I really think about feminists is that 90% of them are closeted lesbians and use the feminist ideology to push their own agenda. Women have made great strides in the workforce and soceity in general.

If a man loves you from the depths of his core it's unfair to hold him in that position of people you perceive to enslave you.
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Old 3rd July 2008, 2:37 AM   #5
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I' say this about the feminist wives. it's kinda contradictory to be anti man and be married to one.

As a man who marries a woman, that man has your back, thick and thin. IT's really counterproductive for a man to love a woman when she doesnt have their combined best interestss at heart and puts herself first selfishly.

What I really think about feminists is that 90% of them are closeted lesbians and use the feminist ideology to push their own agenda. Women have made great strides in the workforce and soceity in general.

If a man loves you from the depths of his core it's unfair to hold him in that position of people you perceive to enslave you.

I used to supervise probationers who all swore that they truly loved their wives and girlfriends, yet they beat them, degraged them, raped them, and even killed them.

Feminism isn't about hating men. It's about recognizing that women should have the same opportunities to choose their own futures as men do. That future may involve marriage and children by choice. It may involve staying single and childfree by choice. It may mean working or staying home. It's about dropping the social assumptions of what a woman has to be.

I have never met a man who was asked the question, "Do you intend to have children?" during a job interview.
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Old 3rd July 2008, 2:45 AM   #6
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I used to supervise probationers who all swore that they truly loved their wives and girlfriends, yet they beat them, degraged them, raped them, and even killed them.

Feminism isn't about hating men. It's about recognizing that women should have the same opportunities to choose their own futures as men do. That future may involve marriage and children by choice. It may involve staying single and childfree by choice. It may mean working or staying home. It's about dropping the social assumptions of what a woman has to be.

I have never met a man who was asked the question, "Do you intend to have children?" during a job interview.
I know feminisim isnt about hating men, much like the NAACP isnt about hating white people. lol.

Women have the same oportunites and choices everyone else have. No one puts a gun to their heads and make them do anything they dont want to do.

But in this day an age feminists are very anti men as a whole. And if you married one who had that mindset. damn well be prepared to be on the receiving end of those issues. much like the OP said.
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Old 3rd July 2008, 6:11 AM   #7
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I am a feminist. I am not a lesbian, I like penises and I don't hate men- I actually quite like men and think their gender role f**ks with their heads worse than ours ever did/ does. Is marriage patriarchal? Well certainly historically it was a way for women's sexuality to be controlled- ie to make sure that when a man did get his wife (who historically was considered to be his property, ie a chattel, ie not a person) knocked up, he knew the baby was his.

Do I think marriage is patriarchal these days- no. These days marriage is a partnership, not a one-sided 'husband knows best and that's the final word' kind of deal. No woman getting married these days in a western country is expected to 'obey', nor is she expected to be a domestic slave (that said most of you blokes out there are still not doing your share of the housework- even when both partners are working full time- and most studies on this topic showed that if you did the dishes you'd probably get your ends in more often! Though if more women avoided noticing the little pieces of grit and complaining that you're not doing it right perhaps you'd be more inclined to do them more often...)

Anyway... IMHO for any woman to decide she wants to end her marriage because of that kind of old-fashioned second wave radical thinking is preposterous. Unless her husband is an unreconstructed misogynistic neanderthal who considers her his property... in which case I could understand why she might think that but I'd probably suggest to her she just chose to get married to the wrong man.

And just as an aside, most of the lesbians I know are on the blokes side when it comes to the issue of spousal support, as one of my older friends said to me "I could never get support from an ex-partner following a relationship breakdown. Why should straight women be so privileged? We're all allowed to work now."
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Old 3rd July 2008, 6:46 AM   #8
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A man being married to a feminist is like a black person being married to a KK member or a jew being married to a Nazi. Feminism and a happy marriage just do not go together or else it isn't really feminism. Any man that married a feminist is marrying the enemy and he will find that out when she turns on him and decides that he is the source of all her unhappiness. I remember my mother started hanging out with a bunch of feminists and all of sudden my father was the source of all her problems and every ounce of rage she had was hurled at him. It didn't matter how much he tried to make her happy because she resented him even more. She is an example of a woman turned against her family by feminism.
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Old 3rd July 2008, 9:24 AM   #9
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Any man that married a feminist is marrying the enemy and he will find that out when she turns on him and decides that he is the source of all her unhappiness.
You got that right. In fact she now says very clearly "I'm not getting married again - I want a wife, not a husband." Mind you she is not a lesbian but rather seems simply to disapprove of the concept of marriage or at least of gender roles within marriage. Of course that raises the question of why did she get married in the first place and stay married for 14 years until this all exploded... I guess that's what a midlife crisis is about.
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Was she a feminist when you first met her or did she become one during the marriage?
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Old 3rd July 2008, 9:39 AM   #11
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Was she a feminist when you first met her or did she become one during the marriage?
She always believed in women's equality - as did I - so I suppose you could say she was always a feminist. But during the marriage she earned a PhD in history with a strong emphasis on women's studes and subsequently worked her way up the academic ladder, so surely that had its effect in magnifying her views.
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She always believed in women's equality - as did I - so I suppose you could say she was always a feminist. But during the marriage she earned a PhD in history with a strong emphasis on women's studes and subsequently worked her way up the academic ladder, so surely that had its effect in magnifying her views.
Women's studies are pretty classes in how to hate men so no doubt she has sitting in class learning about how men are all horrible and you became the target of that rage. My mother befriended a woman at work who started taking her to these meetings and it turned her into a monster so this is a similar situation.
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Old 3rd July 2008, 10:14 AM   #13
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Women's studies are pretty classes in how to hate men so no doubt she has sitting in class learning about how men are all horrible and you became the target of that rage.
She didn't just attend the classes - she taught them. So it is a step even beyond what you describe.
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Old 3rd July 2008, 12:39 PM   #14
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Yeah right?

"I'm not getting married again - I want a wife, not a husband."

Like i said closet lesbian.

With statements like that I would seriously distance myself away from her. Stop associating myself with her. If she has that general hatred of men and I'm a man in logic she must hate me for all I represent.

No straight man in their right mind outta anger says to their wives: I want a dick up my ass and a guy to take care of me!!!

C'mon man, she has issues and what she's doing is just the ti of the iceberg.

Listen N. Get away from this woman and stop thinking about her right now!!! No contact at all costs!!!!! Especially if you dont have kids!!!
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Old 3rd July 2008, 12:49 PM   #15
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Listen N. Get away from this woman and stop thinking about her right now!!! No contact at all costs!!!!! Especially if you dont have kids!!!
2 young kids so that isn't possible - oh well
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