hi guys,
started on my new med this week and just feeling really really down for the last 2 days.. not for any particular reason, everything jst seems so bleak and dreary again.. i hate when i feel like this. found its good to talk when im feeling like this and who better to talk 2 than other people that are goin through the same thing.. gotta get my mood up b4 i kill sum1.
(i suffer from depression and borderline personality disorder)
If you don't mind my asking, what meds and are you being rx'd by a psychiatrist or GP? I ask because, if you do have depression/BPD, a specialist should be involved.
A good friend had some bad cocktail experiences, mainly to do improper rx'ing, and she complained of what I like to call "flat lining", which sounds a lot like you're feeling.
I empathize. Feeling down and trying to manage one's life (and a child) is a daunting task. I went through a few years of the "dark days" 15 or so years ago without any meds or therapy and it was exceedingly difficult. For me, exercising and doing volunteer work, along with a lot of introspection, rebalanced my psyche.
If you haven't tried it, journal your daily feelings/observations and watch for patterns. Share what you observe with your doctor. A patient knows their body and mind best
hi, thanks for replying, my doc referred me to a specialist. had been put on lexapro but it didnt help... just made me more teary and very very angry and agressive... i promise its jst not in my nature 2 b like that.. i hate it. he has changed me to edronax 4mg and quetiapine also known as seroquel 25mg. feeling even more down and angry on these ones... its just so unfair.. i suffered for so long in silence and now that i have got help its jst makin it worse.. wish i culd go asleep and when i woke up id feel better
Did the doc taper the lexapro while you started the reboxetine and quetiapine or stop it completely to baseline you before starting the new treatment? Did you begin this new regime as a cocktail or did you start one drug prior to the other? How long has it been since you last used lexapro?
I ask the questions because I used a similar cocktail in my mother's care when she was in the early stages of demential psychosis. Seroquel (quetiapine) has modest titration requirements and I found it to be dosage flexible, in that, on "bad" days, I could double the dosage (say from 25mg to 50mg BID), and then back it off as things improved. Very flexible. I did note, in her case, increased appetite, as well as tolerance (the need for increased dosage over time to maintain effect). She took it for over a year. We used lexapro as the anti-depressant, mainly during winter (low light causes issues for dementia patients).
Are you taking the reboxetine 2mg BID (2mg twice per day)? Have you noted changes depending on when you take the med, as well as when the quetiapine is added?
Lastly, it should take 14-21 days for the full theraputic effect to be felt. Has it been that long yet? Any orthostatic hypotension (light headedness upon standing)? Other odd side effects besides that feeling of "flat lining" and bursts of anger?
My friend (not my mom) complained about having sleep issues on lexapro. She was on a lexapro/wellbutrin cocktail, and had taken lexapro literally for nearly a decade. Her sister and I (after I came back into her life last year) finally convinced her to experiment with reducing and eliminating the meds, based on a clinical reverse titration schedule, to gauge her underlying psychology. I did this with my mom every so often because of the heavy psych med load she was on, to gauge the progression of her psychosis. With my friend (she's not "crazy" LOL), the problem was she was afraid of going off the meds even though the headaches and sleep issues bugged the heck out of her. She's so glad she did. Took about 4 months. She has "bad" days, but she works through them.
I would suggest, if you've been on these meds for a month, to re-evaluate. You're not getting the proper effect. Are you getting any cognitive therapy?
Sorry about the length...I've been pretty deep into this stuff so I tend to get wordy
thank u so much for all the info, it is brill to find sum1 that understands these drugs with such detail. to answer ur questions,
i came off lexapro completely on sunday and started the seroquel25mg and edronax 4mg first thing on monday.. he has completely stopped the lexapro
iam taking both new tabs twice a day. 1 seroquel in the morn and 1 in the evening. i am taking half a tablet of edronax in the morning and the other half in the evening. i have been told to keep taking both tablets no matter how i feel. i have never gone without either for a week now.
side affects are terrible... feeling constantly sick, vombie like, dizzy and wobbly, terrible anger, sadness, bursts of crying again for no reason and just very little patience... is this normal or could it be its making my borderline personality worse.. the bpd can portray some of these symptoms so its a little hard to judge... what do u think.
could be getting worse as ive stopped takin the lexapro and the new tabs havnt kicked in yet. i never had any sleeping trouble on the lexapro and so far so good with the new meds too (touch wood) but with a newborn and a 4yr old running around im prob s knackered that my body doesnt have a choice
finally, what is cognitive therapy, i have talking sessions with my physciatrist so see haow my progress is doin on the meds.. but thats all.
My bet is the worst of your side effects are due to the Seroquel. Ask the doctor if you can reduce its dosage by half and observe the effects. If agreed, suggest that the reduced dosage be taken at bedtime/evening and get opinion on that. Also, concurrently, have your blood glucose and TSH (thryroid stimulating hormone) levels checked. A fasting BG/hemoglobin would be preferable IMO, if that's possible. It's good to baseline these two when using/contemplating psych meds, especially an atypical anti-psychotic like Seroquel.
Lastly, suggest to your doctor to replace Seroquel with Abilify if you find Seroquel to be causal regarding your side effects. We've had good experience with Abilify with our forum members who care for dementia patients. Dementia plus being elderly often makes finding a efficacious med or cocktail a real complex process. Your doctor should be the best advisor as he knows your condition best. Google some of the drug names to read the experiences of others as well as scientific information.
Yeah, I know, like when you have time between chasing the kids around It'll all work out...
The reason I suggest to become informed is that practitioners don't always pay attention. In my friends case, she had been on Paxil for a long time and received no cessation guidance (her fault was not asking for it or seeking it out) and just quit it. Big mistake. Crawled around on the floor for a number of days. Made me wish I had been there for her back then
rebecca, just hang in there. With anti-depressants, it's hit or miss, and sometimes patients go through a whole slew of meds just to find the right combo. So the right one is out there, even if it doesn't feel like it.
just keep on keeping the doctor informed about what's going on (feelings, physical changes, etc) so he can properly monitor you.
hugs,
quank
__________________ "Walking in the Lord's footsteps, our own lives become a journey of hope." – Pope Benedict XVI
My prayers and wishes to you. I pray for your continued strength and healing. And if God is willing, that He removes that thorn from you. Be strong, you have friends, family, and strangers who care and have your back.
Hi Rebecca I just startd thy lexapro,ans and trazadon for slep,and OMG what HUGE diffrnc its maks ,you got to giv it 2 wks thogh,and it works lets m tll ya. Good luck hun
Also, make sure you are communicating with your doctor. Tell him/her exactly what you've been telling us. If you don't have an appointment, call. Don't be afraid to be a pest.
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