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Old 11th April 2008, 5:51 AM   #1
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A friend of mine from the office hired a personal trainer about four months ago and has lost about 25 lbs. She looks great and I'm really happy for her. As luck would have it, we have been working out at the same gym after work but never really coordinated our schedules to work out at the same time. Well, we ended up at the gym on the same night this week and did the ellypicals together. Then I went and lifted a little and went home.

Next morning I get an email from her saying how she had a few suggestions for me, and how I should probably give it a chance because she worked with a personal trainer. I was initially very irritated but then thought, what the hell. . . so I let her give me advice. And the advice was interesting (i.e. lift before the cardio). However, I still feel irritated by the fact that she found it necessary to put her two cents in.

Now I worry that every time I see her at the gym, she will have "tips" for me. I know she's enthusiastic about everything she's learned, but I go to the gym to de-stress and keep myself healthy. Frankly I don't care if what I'm doing is "wrong" and I'm not sculpting the perfect body. I found a routine that I'm not bored with yet, I haven't injured myself, it still gets me into the gym, and relieves my stress. So is it really wrong?

What do you think? Am I crazy for taking this approach? I don't feel like I need to lose any weight, and while I'd love to tighen up some jiggles, I'm certainly not willing to torture myself in obtaining the perfect body.
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Old 11th April 2008, 7:22 AM   #2
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A friend of mine from the office hired a personal trainer about four months ago and has lost about 25 lbs. She looks great and I'm really happy for her. As luck would have it, we have been working out at the same gym after work but never really coordinated our schedules to work out at the same time. Well, we ended up at the gym on the same night this week and did the ellypicals together. Then I went and lifted a little and went home.

Next morning I get an email from her saying how she had a few suggestions for me, and how I should probably give it a chance because she worked with a personal trainer. I was initially very irritated but then thought, what the hell. . . so I let her give me advice. And the advice was interesting (i.e. lift before the cardio). However, I still feel irritated by the fact that she found it necessary to put her two cents in.
Why would you be mad, I would be happy if someone gave me suggestions, I would be more then happy to get pointers.
I have also heard that doing weights before cardio is good.
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Now I worry that every time I see her at the gym, she will have "tips" for me. I know she's enthusiastic about everything she's learned, but I go to the gym to de-stress and keep myself healthy. Frankly I don't care if what I'm doing is "wrong" and I'm not sculpting the perfect body. I found a routine that I'm not bored with yet, I haven't injured myself, it still gets me into the gym, and relieves my stress. So is it really wrong?
I would rather have someone help me so I'm doing things the correct way, why do them the wrong way when you could be doing them the right way?
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What do you think? Am I crazy for taking this approach? I don't feel like I need to lose any weight, and while I'd love to tighen up some jiggles, I'm certainly not willing to torture myself in obtaining the perfect body.
sometimes you don't have to torture yourself to tighten up the jiggles & by doing an exercise the correct way might keep you from having to work so hard.

For me I would use her advice, she is the one that paid for the PT & now she is giving you that advice for free.

You have to remember she is all excited right now with all the information she has learned & she is just wanting to share it with someone.
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Old 11th April 2008, 7:28 AM   #3
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Everyone is entitled to their own way of doing things... although, if you're at the gym, why not get the most out of your time. It seems a bit counter-productive to me personally. It's not like you cannot still accomplish all those things you seek, while working out more efficiently.

On the other hand, fitness isn't an exact science. Everyone has ways they like to do things and for the most part it all works. There are some general guidelines that should be followed though. Things to prevent stupid injuries, over-training, etc...

I don't like most personal trainers tbph, they generally have an air of arrogance. The fact of the matter is, health and fitness, shouldn't be unrealistic. Very few people have the determination to measure out portions or set aside more than a few hours a week. These things have to be considered when training someone. It's a lifestyle, drastic changes to one's lifestyle are very hard for most people to handle. Although little changes over time, usually met with success, more often than not. It's the same reason most "diets" eventually fail, people eventually go back to old habits.

Also, the "perfect body" is more about proper diet than it is exercise. As long as you do exercise and have some muscle development, the proper diet will allow you to show it off.
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Old 11th April 2008, 10:01 AM   #4
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A friend of mine from the office hired a personal trainer about four months ago and has lost about 25 lbs. She looks great and I'm really happy for her. As luck would have it, we have been working out at the same gym after work but never really coordinated our schedules to work out at the same time. Well, we ended up at the gym on the same night this week and did the ellypicals together. Then I went and lifted a little and went home.

Next morning I get an email from her saying how she had a few suggestions for me, and how I should probably give it a chance because she worked with a personal trainer. I was initially very irritated but then thought, what the hell. . . so I let her give me advice. And the advice was interesting (i.e. lift before the cardio). However, I still feel irritated by the fact that she found it necessary to put her two cents in.

Now I worry that every time I see her at the gym, she will have "tips" for me. I know she's enthusiastic about everything she's learned, but I go to the gym to de-stress and keep myself healthy. Frankly I don't care if what I'm doing is "wrong" and I'm not sculpting the perfect body. I found a routine that I'm not bored with yet, I haven't injured myself, it still gets me into the gym, and relieves my stress. So is it really wrong?

What do you think? Am I crazy for taking this approach? I don't feel like I need to lose any weight, and while I'd love to tighen up some jiggles, I'm certainly not willing to torture myself in obtaining the perfect body.
Lift before cardio? Thats a first. I always heard that its the other way around.

My point is that every trainer will have a differeing opinion on what is considered the right way. Do things the way that you feel are right. Weight loss has alot to do with the type of diet that you have. Its not just the exercising.
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Old 11th April 2008, 10:20 AM   #5
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lift before cardio is the way to go acording to mens health mag. it burns more calories,plus you'll be stronger for lifting. if your not comfortable w/ recieving free advice, just tell her thanks but i'll do it my way.
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You're also supposed to lift before cardio because it depletes your carb stores. It kind of helps your body to switch over from burning mostly carbs for energy to burning mostly fat for energy during the cardio.
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Old 11th April 2008, 4:25 PM   #7
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lift before cardio is the way to go acording to mens health mag. it burns more calories,plus you'll be stronger for lifting. if your not comfortable w/ recieving free advice, just tell her thanks but i'll do it my way.
I always heard that cardio before lifting is the way to go because it builds up your heart rate and warms up your muscles and prepares you for a good healthy lifting session.
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Old 11th April 2008, 4:29 PM   #8
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I always heard that cardio before lifting is the way to go because it builds up your heart rate and warms up your muscles and prepares you for a good healthy lifting session.
You heard wrong.

Light cardio to warm up for 15 minutes or so is probably fine but you don't want to run 5 miles first and then lift.
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You heard wrong.

Light cardio to warm up for 15 minutes or so is probably fine but you don't want to run 5 miles first and then lift.
and where do you get your info from? I heard mine from a few different personal trainers.

They say a half-hour of cardio is ideal before a workout.
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and where do you get your info from?
Bodybuilding websites and the Arnold Schwarzenegger Encyclopedia of bodybuilding.
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Old 11th April 2008, 4:55 PM   #11
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It all depends on what your aim is - to build endurance for some special "event" yes, do your cardio first - but remember that cardio burns both fat AND carbs, and you need the energy of the carbs to gain the most from a lifting routine.

Like tan said though, a light cardio as a warm up first means fewer 'warm up' reps to start your lift routine
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Old 11th April 2008, 5:02 PM   #12
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A friend of mine from the office hired a personal trainer about four months ago and has lost about 25 lbs. She looks great and I'm really happy for her. As luck would have it, we have been working out at the same gym after work but never really coordinated our schedules to work out at the same time. Well, we ended up at the gym on the same night this week and did the ellypicals together. Then I went and lifted a little and went home.

Next morning I get an email from her saying how she had a few suggestions for me, and how I should probably give it a chance because she worked with a personal trainer. I was initially very irritated but then thought, what the hell. . . so I let her give me advice. And the advice was interesting (i.e. lift before the cardio). However, I still feel irritated by the fact that she found it necessary to put her two cents in.

Now I worry that every time I see her at the gym, she will have "tips" for me. I know she's enthusiastic about everything she's learned, but I go to the gym to de-stress and keep myself healthy. Frankly I don't care if what I'm doing is "wrong" and I'm not sculpting the perfect body. I found a routine that I'm not bored with yet, I haven't injured myself, it still gets me into the gym, and relieves my stress. So is it really wrong?

What do you think? Am I crazy for taking this approach? I don't feel like I need to lose any weight, and while I'd love to tighen up some jiggles, I'm certainly not willing to torture myself in obtaining the perfect body.
Kitty, remember even though she is giving you the benefit of her PT's advice for free, he/she was HER PT, not yours and you're also gettign the 'tips' third hand........

That said, it couldn't hurt to try some of them out if you're comfortable with that as there IS often a right and a wrong way to go about certain routines, especially when it comes to lifting weights. Some work better than others - at least if you've given her tips a shot she can't be upset with you
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It all depends on what your aim is - to build endurance for some special "event" yes, do your cardio first - but remember that cardio burns both fat AND carbs, and you need the energy of the carbs to gain the most from a lifting routine.

Like tan said though, a light cardio as a warm up first means fewer 'warm up' reps to start your lift routine
and thats why I said that cardio before lifting is good because it warms up the muscles and preps you for a lifting session.
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and thats why I said that cardio before lifting is good because it warms up the muscles and preps you for a lifting session.
Good backpedal.
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Good backpedal.
I said that all along gringle.
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