[EnigmaXOXO]

But that does NOT mean becoming someone's doormat!

If she continues to lie and take advantage of you, it will be time to initiate FIRM but gentle closure.

Simply tell her that: Although you genuinely care about her, you don't think that it's in either of your best interests to carry on a relationship at this time. That you're regretful, but you still wish her the very best.

As my mother says: It's a way to make 'f**k you' sound so professional that it comes off like a compliment and they never know what hit them.

Then initiate 'No Contact'.

"FIRM" meaning…stick to your resolve to put time and distance between you. Being a "nice guy" does not mean being a push-over. You have to practice at learning to balance that.

[sanne]

where were you guys when i could have really used your advice. sometimes i swear i stop visiting LS thinking i'm cured, only to find out that I keep making the same stupid mistakes. Yes i will be firm in my resolve and if she keeps lying to me I will have to do what i've been afraid of doing for so long. I'll admit, I am weak when it comes to her. She has a way of making me lose all rational thought. But I want that to change, I want to be able to make a decision and stick with it.

This whole time I've been yeling at her and making hurtful snide remarks whenever i felt like it because i felt like I was entitled to do so. I guess I will stop all that, and say to her, "I am not going to blindly follow you down the same road again, if you make the same mistakes again I'm going to have to let you go for the interest of us both".

what worries me though is that she is a very skilled liar, I have now way of knowing if she's lying or not. Before she covered all her bases and it wasn't until i found out from someone else that she was lying to me. So basically I am forced to blindly believe anything she says, if I object she says I will never trust her and starts crying. I'm in this pickle, because i don't wanna be a stalker or like big brother watching her every move either.

[reservoirdog1]

For awhile, I wanted revenge on my serial cheating deceiving ex-wife. A few things prevented me from taking it:

1) Somebody else (and I don't know who) did it first, long story short.

2) After #1 happened, she was so beaten into the ground and seemed so f*cking pathetic that I figured it would serve no purpose, and I'd just seem vindictive and evil.

3) After being separated awhile, I realized I just didn't want to deal with her or be around her, and working on revenge would keep her in my life.

4) I had kids to think about, and working on destroying their mother would negatively impact their lives too.

5) Angry though I was, a part of me still cared about her.

Move on, man, and build your new life. Living well is the best revenge.