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Old 12th April 2004, 8:44 PM   #1
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Why, if I might be so bold to ask, would being discreet have any effect on whether a woman becomes overcome with jealousy and a feeling of not being good enough when her man watches porn. Doesn't that only mask something that is still there... it solves nothing; it creates a feeling of distrust.
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Old 12th April 2004, 8:44 PM   #2
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Maybe not, but liking can be as bad. My question to you is when was the last time you derived pleasure from staring or watching something that you didn't find appealing? Obviously if you're watching something over and over again it's because you LIKE it or derive some pleasure from seeing it. So women have issues with men deriving pleasure from watching other women sexually.

I think you just summed this up for me, and you did it quite nicely. I DO have a problem with a man getting sexual satisfaction from watching another woman, or where the woman is arousing him. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

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Old 12th April 2004, 8:46 PM   #3
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perhaps i'm missing smth, but wdn't all problems be solved if the men were discreet enough abt their viewing of porn?

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That only makes it dishonest and creates another problem.
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Old 12th April 2004, 8:58 PM   #4
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How many men here watched a porn video and didn't get aroused from it?
How many men here watched a porn video, got up from and went straight to sleep without a hard on?


Your question is bogus. 'WHY do men get aroused when they look at it' is the question you should be asking and the answer you should listen to.

Go back and read the men's answers to this question and pay attention to what they said. And maybe, just maybe, believe they are being honest.
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Old 12th April 2004, 9:03 PM   #5
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That only makes it dishonest and creates another problem.
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Not at all. I didn't say LIE and say "i don't look at porn" if she asks. But keep it discrete so that she doesn't notice.

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Old 12th April 2004, 9:04 PM   #6
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ANYWAY, the question I SHOULD be asking is what do you guys find entertaining about porn?

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Old 12th April 2004, 9:06 PM   #7
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ANYWAY, the question I SHOULD be asking is what do you guys find entertaining about porn?
THEY. ARE. HAVING. SEX. -_-
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Old 12th April 2004, 9:07 PM   #8
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How many men here watched a porn video and didn't get aroused from it?
How many men here watched a porn video, got up from and went straight to sleep without a hard on?


Your question is bogus. 'WHY do men get aroused when they look at it' is the question you should be asking and the answer you should listen to.

Go back and read the men's answers to this question and pay attention to what they said. And maybe, just maybe, believe they are being honest.
I know WHY men look at it. That's a no brainer. The fact is that for me, I find it destructive to a relationship, because the man is reliant upon something ELSE, which is also someone else to bring sexual satisfaction.

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Old 12th April 2004, 9:08 PM   #9
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I know WHY men look at it. That's a no brainer. The fact is that for me, I find it destructive to a relationship, because the man is reliant upon something ELSE, which is also someone else to bring sexual satisfaction.

Well stated, fedup!
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So, Jester. You never ever look at porn, huh?
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Old 12th April 2004, 9:18 PM   #11
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There are some people in the world who are very secure with themselves, and still find porn wrong. The people who are not trying to live a moral life, always want company. They want others to follow along so that they don't feel so bad about what they are doing. They can justify their behaviors easier that way.

Personally I don't keep company with this sort of person, be it man or women. There are many decent men in the world who do not use porn, so when people say all men do, that is absolutely wrong. All men don't!
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Old 12th April 2004, 9:19 PM   #12
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KD - to be unimpressed that ANYONE can claim she knows what all men think and to make a remark to that effect is not an 'attack'. I could have said it much less kindly, but basically to think you know what every man thinks is inane.

I did not answer for myself, either, KD. I said, in exactly these words, Go back and read the men's answers to this question and pay attention to what they said. And maybe, just maybe, believe they are being honest.

What you are mad at is that you think they desire the women, possibly more than you. The men say this is not the case. THAT is the point I am getting at.
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Old 12th April 2004, 9:22 PM   #13
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Well said Jenk. I know alot of guys that don't like porn.
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Old 12th April 2004, 9:23 PM   #14
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KD - to be unimpressed that ANYONE can claim she knows what all men think and to make a remark to that effect is not an 'attack'. I could have said it much less kindly, but basically to think you know what every man thinks is inane.

I did not answer for myself, either, KD. I said, in exactly these words, Go back and read the men's answers to this question and pay attention to what they said. And maybe, just maybe, believe they are being honest.

What you are mad at is that you think they desire the women, possibly more than you. The men say this is not the case. THAT is the point I am getting at.
But isn't it you, Moi that suggested to find out why men view pornography, AND yet with the same breath you are already petitioning that you yourself know WHY they view it, thus defending them, saying it's harmless. How would YOU know it's harmless if you are also not a mind reader and already allude to the fact that YOU know why they view it?

And who are you to assume that you know why someone else is mad, per sae? I think that sounds like YOU being a mind reader yourself.

Realize and accept the fact that not everyone thinks the same way you do, and realize and accept the fact that because they don't, they aren't inferior to you.
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Old 12th April 2004, 9:24 PM   #15
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And my point is that all men don't feel that "that is the case". Some men do actually want the other woman. Every man in the world is not answering this post, so it's pretty hard to assume that all men feel like the guys that are posting here.
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