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Old 4th November 2009, 8:29 PM   #1
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Lowering Standards/Settling

Do you feel you've lowered your standards and/or settled on your current significant other? By "lowering standards" and "settling" I mean that you feel as though you could do better, or that you deserve better, but, for whatever reason, decided to settle for your significant other rather than to wait to find genuine happiness with your "true love"?

If you have settled, why have you done so, and are you are happy/content in the relationship viz. would you do it again? Finally, if you have settled on your significant other, would you end the relationship if you found someone else whom you felt could better meet your original standards?

Also, if you haven't currently settled for anyone: would you settle and, if so, why?
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Old 4th November 2009, 8:35 PM   #2
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I don't think I lowered my standards or settled, but I know I can always do better. I think the key for those who are looking for a relationship is to find that happy high standard. If you kept looking for the best, you would never find someone to be with. You need to set a limit somewhere.

Also, I don't believe in "true love". That's just a load of hogwash created by the media and Disney.
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Old 4th November 2009, 8:37 PM   #3
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I have not settled for second best and I never will.
If I did it would mean I would be giving up on myself and my values.

Besides I could never be happy knowing that I have lowered my standards for someone and in turn I would not treat them as best I could.

I would prefer to be alone than to settle for second best. Thats just seond best for me.. Does not have to be perfect but I do have to be happy
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Old 4th November 2009, 8:41 PM   #4
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Also, I don't believe in "true love". That's just a load of hogwash created by the media and Disney.
LOL, well, Lovegod, I wouldn't expect you to.

So, if you believe you can always do better, do you believe in any sort of long term commitment? I ask, because it seems that long term commitment would be impossible if you are only interested in those who meet your highest standard--there will always be someone who better fits your "standard" than your current significant other i.e. someone taller, slimmer, etc.

Oh, and side-note: "True Love" was created long before the media and Disney. The philosopher Plato came up with the concept of soulmates way back in the B.C.'s.
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Old 4th November 2009, 8:44 PM   #5
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Do you feel you've lowered your standards and/or settled on your current significant other?
No way. He's a wonderful man.
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By "lowering standards" and "settling" I mean that you feel as though you could do better, or that you deserve better, but, for whatever reason, decided to settle for your significant other rather than to wait to find genuine happiness with your "true love"?
Not applicable.
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If you have settled, why have you done so, and are you are happy/content in the relationship viz. would you do it again?
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Finally, if you have settled on your significant other, would you end the relationship if you found someone else whom you felt could better meet your original standards?
Since I didn't settle, no way. I'm not a grass is greener type of person.
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Also, if you haven't currently settled for anyone: would you settle and, if so, why?
I've never settled.
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Old 4th November 2009, 8:44 PM   #6
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[QUOTE=always_searching;2470334]
So, if you believe you can always do better, do you believe in any sort of long term commitment? I ask, because it seems that long term commitment would be impossible if you are only interested in those who meet your highest standard--there will always be someone who better fits your "standard" than your current significant other i.e. someone taller, slimmer, etc. [quote]

That's why I mentioned you need to set a limit with how long you're going to search. I could search forever, but I'd always keep raising the standard and never reach any sort of relationship goal.

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Oh, and side-note: "True Love" was created long before the media and Disney. The philosopher Plato came up with the concept of soulmates way back in the B.C.'s.
Well, Plato can lick my balls. What a prick for coming up with such a stupid concept.
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Old 4th November 2009, 8:45 PM   #7
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Back in the day, some group of Greeks or Romans treated women as second-class citizens who were used only for procreation. The idea was that true love could only exist between equals, i.e. men. It was a sort of "mentoring" relationship between an older man and a younger man. I believe it even got a tad sexual.
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Back in the day, some group of Greeks or Romans treated women as second-class citizens who were used only for procreation. The idea was that true love could only exist between equals, i.e. men. It was a sort of "mentoring" relationship between an older man and a younger man. I believe it even got a tad sexual.
Oh, Plato never said anything about women being second-class citizens. That was Aristotle...

Now, the sexuality issue is something entirely different.
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Old 4th November 2009, 8:51 PM   #9
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Well, Plato can lick my balls. What a prick for coming up with such a stupid concept.
It's a beautiful concept--there is someone for everyone. Well, actually, it's more than that: there is someone out there who is literally perfect for me, because he is me!

It may not be correct, but the ideology is superbly beautiful and not deserving of ball-licking.
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Old 4th November 2009, 8:53 PM   #10
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Since I didn't settle, no way. I'm not a grass is greener type of person.
Good for you TBF! I hope I can be so lucky!
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I don't think I lowered my standards or settled, but I know I can always do better. I think the key for those who are looking for a relationship is to find that happy high standard. If you kept looking for the best, you would never find someone to be with. You need to set a limit somewhere.

Also, I don't believe in "true love". That's just a load of hogwash created by the media and Disney.
That's pretty much my view. The key is expectation management. There are two approaches:
1) (leads to miserable life) - set the bar incredibly high, i.e. engage in a search of the best deal you could possibly get. Even if such outcome is conceivable, the result is enormous energy expenditure (with diminishing returns), and decreasing probability of success.
2) (leads to happy and content life, my personal approach) - set the bar as low as possible. I.e. come up the essential checklist of things I desire in a relationship, and once it is attained, stop any further research, even if it is perfectly conceivable that I could do better (I could, thank you very much )

Therefore, saying "I will never settle" actually doesn't convey any useful information (other than the person is borderline psychotic ) because nobody sane has a comprehensive list of requirements; our preferences evolve as we interact with other people. Conversely, "settling" in my mind certainly doesn't mean lowering my standards but simply that my minimum standards are met, and therefore I need not search anymore. (serendipitously, this is also good strategy for decision making in business and public organizations. )
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Old 4th November 2009, 10:17 PM   #12
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Do you feel you've lowered your standards and/or settled on your current significant other? By "lowering standards" and "settling" I mean that you feel as though you could do better, or that you deserve better, but, for whatever reason, decided to settle for your significant other rather than to wait to find genuine happiness with your "true love"?
If you have settled, why have you done so, and are you are happy/content in the relationship viz. would you do it again? Finally, if you have settled on your significant other, would you end the relationship if you found someone else whom you felt could better meet your original standards?
Also, if you haven't currently settled for anyone: would you settle and, if so, why?
Are you just stimulating debate, or are you having a more personal issue?
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Old 4th November 2009, 10:22 PM   #13
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That's pretty much my view. The key is expectation management. There are two approaches:
1) (leads to miserable life) - set the bar incredibly high, i.e. engage in a search of the best deal you could possibly get. Even if such outcome is conceivable, the result is enormous energy expenditure (with diminishing returns), and decreasing probability of success.
2) (leads to happy and content life, my personal approach) - set the bar as low as possible. I.e. come up the essential checklist of things I desire in a relationship, and once it is attained, stop any further research, even if it is perfectly conceivable that I could do better (I could, thank you very much )

Therefore, saying "I will never settle" actually doesn't convey any useful information (other than the person is borderline psychotic ) because nobody sane has a comprehensive list of requirements; our preferences evolve as we interact with other people. Conversely, "settling" in my mind certainly doesn't mean lowering my standards but simply that my minimum standards are met, and therefore I need not search anymore. (serendipitously, this is also good strategy for decision making in business and public organizations. )
How about 3) realizing that you can't get everything you want in life but still wanting to be excited about someone you're dating, therefore, keeping the bar high reliant on what you reasonably judge you can find?
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Old 4th November 2009, 11:46 PM   #14
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Are you just stimulating debate, or are you having a more personal issue?
Well, I personally I think I have pretty high standards--however, like Sam Spade suggested, I too find that "our preferences evolve as we interact with other people." So, in light of that, I suppose I really don't have so much of a "standard," but rather I generally like a particular person versus some idealized qualitative list.

Though I always love a good debate, I really asked as more of a curiosity. Actually, I was thinking of a person I know who I am fairly certain is in love with a woman from a previous relationship, but is dating someone else. I could be entirely wrong, but I get the impression that he settled for this woman because he's afraid of being alone. So, thinking on this, I decided to get the loveshack community's opinion.
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Old 4th November 2009, 11:59 PM   #15
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That's pretty much my view. The key is expectation management. There are two approaches:
1) (leads to miserable life) - set the bar incredibly high, i.e. engage in a search of the best deal you could possibly get. Even if such outcome is conceivable, the result is enormous energy expenditure (with diminishing returns), and decreasing probability of success.
2) (leads to happy and content life, my personal approach) - set the bar as low as possible. I.e. come up the essential checklist of things I desire in a relationship, and once it is attained, stop any further research, even if it is perfectly conceivable that I could do better (I could, thank you very much )

Therefore, saying "I will never settle" actually doesn't convey any useful information (other than the person is borderline psychotic ) because nobody sane has a comprehensive list of requirements; our preferences evolve as we interact with other people. Conversely, "settling" in my mind certainly doesn't mean lowering my standards but simply that my minimum standards are met, and therefore I need not search anymore. (serendipitously, this is also good strategy for decision making in business and public organizations. )
Sam Spade, I truly look forward to your responses: insightful with added witty-banter. What more could a poster ask for in a response?

I do have to say, though, that I am slightly disheartened by your "setting the bar as low as possible" approach. I mean, if I were dating someone, I would hope that he found something uniquely stimulating in me--I don't expect him to find me to be the most beautiful or intellectual woman, but that the combination of my character, intellect, wit, charm, etc. would appeal to a higher level of desire in him. In other words, I would be extremely put-off if I found out that my boyfriend "set the bar as low as possible," became attracted to me as a result of that low standard setting, and just stuck it out with me because I happened to be the first person he found that qualified, and he's just too lazy to set a proper standard and find the woman who most fits his desired qualifications.

I suppose the whole notion of "standards" is the problem. As I previously stated, it should be about the individual person and not some check-list.

So, should I assume, Sam Spade, that you are with the first person you encountered who met your low-standard requirement and you "settled" for this person because it would take too much time and effort for you to find someone to whom you are better suited? I think your (and your girlfriend's) love-life is worth more than that.
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